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Course evaluation Agile Development Processes, EDA397 / DIT191Status: AvslutadÖppen för svar: 2007-10-15 - 2007-11-15 Antal svar: 56 Procent av deltagarna som svarat: 70% Kontaktperson: Ruben Alexandersson»
Your own effort1. How many hours per week did you spend on this course?We mean total time, that is, it comprises the time you spent in class and the time you spent on your own work. Try to estimate the average time over the entire study period.55 svarande
Genomsnitt: 1.67 - Mostly been working on the project.» (At most 15 hours/week) 2. How large part of the teaching offered did you attend?56 svarande
Genomsnitt: 3.87 - Lecture notes available on homepage.» (0%) Goals and goal fulfilmentThe course syllabus states the course goals in terms of learning outcomes, i.e., knowledge, skills and attitudes to be acquired by the student during the course.3. How understandable are the course goals?56 svarande
Genomsnitt: 2.57 - The general description of the course given at the first lecture is enough for me to know what the course is about.» (I have not seen/read the goals) 4. Are the goals reasonable considering your background and the number of credits?Answer this this question and the succeeding one, only if you do know the course goals.48 svarande
Genomsnitt: 1.89 - i did not read the goals... as stated in the previous question.. » (?) 5. Did the examination assess whether you have reached the goals?51 svarande
Genomsnitt: 3.64 - No exam yet, but I don"t think it will...» (I don"t know/have not been examined yet) Teaching and course administration6. To what extent has the teaching been of help for your learning?55 svarande
Genomsnitt: 2.1 - I don"t attend lectures.» (Small extent) 7. To what extent has the the course literature and other material been of help for your learning?56 svarande
Genomsnitt: 1.96 - The course book was very expensive.» (Small extent) 8. How well did the course administration, web page, handouts etc work?56 svarande
Genomsnitt: 3.23 - Ruben har vunnit pris i att skriva oläsliga PDF.» (Very badly) Study climate9. How were the opportunities for asking questions and getting help?56 svarande
Genomsnitt: 3.5 - Handledarna kunde inte mer än vi» (Very poor) 10. How well has cooperation between you and your fellow students worked?56 svarande
Genomsnitt: 3.55 - Språkbarriär. Flertalet av mastersstudenterna talar mycket dålig engelska, så långa pass gick åt för att förklara mycket enkla detaljer på flera olika sätt. Hur kan Chalmers släppa in personer som har såpass dåliga förkunskaper att tala engelska?» (Very poorly) 11. How was the course workload?56 svarande
Genomsnitt: 3.07 - Med tanke på att vi endast fick programmera under passen (för att följa XPs regel om ~"kontinuerlig arbetsbörda") så blev det en mycket låg arbetsbelastning.» (Too low) 12. How was the total workload this study period?56 svarande
Genomsnitt: 3.3 - Båda kurserna jag läste hade låg arbetsbörda.» (Low) Summarizing questions13. What is your general impression of the course?56 svarande
Genomsnitt: 2.91 - Great idea with the XP project but the structure was not good at all» (Poor) 14. What should definitely be preserved to next year?- the teachers...»- The project.» - Project work» - the project work» - The project, XP process.» - Have a XP project» - the project work.» - The project» - Ruben» - The labs sessions.» - Labs Sessions» - the same seems reasonable» - The requirements of the project process.» - Everything, but you need to expect a deeper understanding from the students than what the practice exam suggests.» - Rubens lectures are pretty good.» - The lectures. In my oppinion Ruben did a good job.» - Projektarbetet är ett roligt moment som skulle kunna ge mycket.» - Att utbilda inom agila processer. Det känns bra att ha fått större insikt i processerna.» - EveryThing» - I do not really know what.» - The lecture slides, but with better English.» - The project, but would have liked if it was a bit more structured. Now it had a tendency to get more focus on programming and completing user stories than actually practicing the XP process.» - project » - Doing projects based on the principles teached in class. » - The agile development process should be preserved next year. This is a good process and should be adopted» - The priority on project work. The sizes of groups. Pair programming.» - the pratical session» - In the lab XP should be more focused rather than learning tapestry and cayenne. We are supposed to learn the process» - The administration and the lectures.» - Group work,XP or Scrum» - Lecture is ok for the next year» 15. What should definitely be changed to next year?- better info about the project in the beginning.. better (and easier) info about what the tracker and cust. rep. should do.. atleast easier accessible.. 6 hours mandatory on a monday is too much, i would say minimize it to 4 hours and also remove the 2 hours on friday and put them right after the wednesday timespace since it does not take 2 hours...»- Course book if there is a cheaper alternative. Maybe just well written lecture notes.» - A much better lab to prepair the sudents and/or change framework.» - The use of Tapestry and Cayenne in the project. I suggest Spring and Hibernate.» - The last week of the project feels a little bit useless (because you are spending your time for something where the result doesn"t matter). If you remove the last week then the current secondlast week will be the last week, so you will have te same feelings. Removing the last week, but mention it on the last class will be better, so you have more time to study the exam» - Additional courses about Tapestry and Tomcat» - Not so much focus on Tapestry / Cayenne» - BOKEN MÅSTE SLOPAS. Min sämsta investering utan tvekan. 2*4 timmar projekt varje vecka är alldeles för mycket.» - There is almost nothing have to be changed except maybe cayenne could be replaced by hibernate which is used more widely in industry.» - Learning Tapestry, cayenne, some java and Tomcat in one same course seems a little bit too much. Stick with just Java. That way it"s easier to actually stick with the core practise of XP, like testing firsdt etc. As it was now you spent all the time trying to figure out how Tapestry and Cayenne worked.» - nothing.» - The project.» - 1. Have a practice "planning-game" session early in the course. 2. Put more emphasis on that XP-programming, not lines of code, is the main goal of the project. 3. Hand out a JUnit tutorial and example usage early on. 4. Write a somewhat detailed document solving common problems/errors (If you want to ease the frustration)» - The Frameworks» - Should teach more theorytical concepts.» - More theoritical concepts» - (Jag skriver på svenska - trots examensadministrationens beslut. Vill ni ignorera detta p.g.a. språket är det upp till er :-) När syftet med projektet är att vi ska få prova XP i verkligheten vore det bra om man hade valt ett ämne för projektet där det hade varit lättare att tillämpa t.ex. testningen. Det känns som om just detta att skriva test innan man skriver koden är en av de största skillnaderna mot de arbetsformer man oftast har sett/använt innan. En övervägande stor del av projektet i denna kurs har varit GUI (html) och databasqueries som har varit svåra att testa med junit. Visst får man tillämpa parprogrammering och sättet att fördela arbetsuppgifterna, men det hade varit ännu bättre om testningsdelen hade kunnat bli bättre. Dessutom känns det som om en relativt stor del av arbetet gick ut på att sätta sig in i Tapestry och Cayenne. Inget fel i sig, och alltid bra att känna till olika verktyg och frameworks, men kanske flyttades fokus lite för mycket från huvudpunkten i denna kurs.» - The way how these requirements are implemented. (Maybe stricter approaches?)» - The project work portion of the course needs to be changed. We didn"t learn the process the way we should because the tools we used were too complicated to learn in a fast and easy way. If we spend 12 hours a week working on the projekt we won"t spend our free time learning the tools we are using. Find something other than Cayenne and Tapestry! » - Maybe the lectures can be stacked in the beginning of the course and then the exam directly after, so everyone KNOWS the theory before they start applying it. The project should have some measure of quality on how you did, or maybe even a game of which group does the proces the best, or something else. There has to be some incentive do do it right, because now nobody takes it seriously.» - The project. We ALL know java, why not keep it simple and do some sort of graphical java-app? Tapestry and cayenne have not in any way contributed to the project, infact it"s quite the opposite. I could have done this on my own in a fraction of the time it took this entire team and with better results. This has not been agile. If something is not agile, we shouldn"t do it at all. Unfortunantley we didn"t get that choise.» - Bättre tutorial i början för att lära sig de verktyg och språk man skall använda. Kanske t o m titta på andra alternativ som t ex ett program helt i Java eller gå över till Ruby? I o m att det är ett grupparbete skulle det vara en fördel att sätta utbytesstudenter i en grupp och svenskar i en annan. Detta för att se till att så många somk möjligt får ut så mycket som möjligt av kursen utan att hindras av språkbarriärer. Se till att handledarna är väl kunniga på de verktyg och språk som används. Se till att handledare är där.» - Tapestry bör ej ingå! De flesta problem under programmeringssessionerna var på grund av Tapestry och den tidsbegränsning som rådde.» - This year lecture ratio to the lab work was very small. It will be cool, if you have a little more time for the lectures as well.» - More exercise or info about testdriven development. As it turned out now, we didn"t use JUnit at all. And according to reliable sources this is one of the essences of XP?» - More teachers who can tapestry and cayenne or just an ordinary java prodject so we can focus on the XP thing.» - The structure of the Project» - TAPESTRY! Use something else, like Spring, or nothing at all. Takes the focus off XP.» - Do not use cayenne in the project.» - more info about project, how to apply the xp process and so on, and really do testing first» - Don"t name consequences (>2hrs of absence) that you"re not going to follow up on.» - projrnct should be taken a count as a bonus to the result of the exam» - Projrnct should be taken into count as a bonus to the result of the exam. » - Make more use of the customer» - The main obstacle I"ve met and struggled during a course is tapestry and cayenne. And many students have spent most of time for learning tapestry and cayenne rather than XP. Also, IMHO, you need to keep an eye on workgroups more thoroughly to correct work process at time the problems have arised.» - If we have to learn an XP process then for learning phase tapestry and cayanee are not good options, iot should be changes next year. I think for learning simple and easy languages like core java or jsp should be adopted because lot of time was wasted in understanding tapestry and removing the problems faced during development by tapestry and cayane. I think it is better to use simple and core technologies for learning XP. Hopefully it will have fruitful resuls.» - Lectures could be more interesting, invite someone from industry to speak etc. Maybe have some real life examples - take a project plan and see how it worked out and analyze what went wrong and how agile processes could have helped. I admit this kind of data is hard to collect. The information offered this year could be packed in one or two lectures. Most concepts are intuitive and doesn"t require verbose explanation.» - Labben är inte tillräckligt för att lära sig verktygen. Man kan klara den utan att förstå vad man gjort. Grupperna måste börja med testning mycket tidigare. » - the framework, use another more easier and powerfull like ruby on rails» - The lab work and project work should have some marks» - the time of lab excersise should be longer till,student have more time to learning tools befror project- change focus to another agile process instead xp wich is not very useable in many companies» - The project was good. BUT! The projekt should be more into just Java, because it isn"t meeningfull to search for errors in Cayenne or Tapestry, noone knew how Cayenne or Tapestry worked so it was just a waste of time because the result was of such poor quality. And there has to be more strict lines about how the project should work. More control that the planing game works. Just choose a normal Java project, that will also lead to more testing because as it was we didn"t know how to write tests for abstract classes and such until the last session (thursday session) so the XP-idea failed. Choose a project that is based on a technique that everyone should understand in a language and framework that is understandabe and has a clear API so that you don"t have to rely on chance everytime you press the run-button.» - Better prepration for programming befor start woking with XP,Other course book» - I think it"s better to give some times to student to adopt with new technology.It should give two lectures to the student about that specific framework and others terms related to that software like how to use,how to integrate etc prior to starting the Lab.» 16. Additional comments- so-so course»- Anna gjorde ingen nytta. Hon kunde varken XP, Cayenne eller Tapestry...» - Generally, this course is well designed and it give me a lot of new knowledge. I think this will give me a great help when i try to find a job.» - The course has Great potential and the lessons was quite good, but the project was carried out completly wrong.» - Good teaching team, always available and very interesting.» - Seriously, reevaluate the project.» - overall its a great course with all course team.» - over all, course is good as well as course team is quite helpfull.» - Eftersom allt, även svaren på tentan, nu ska vara på engelska, och eftersom det är många internationella studenter som läser denna kurs är inte den inledande frågan i denna enkät särskilt lyckad. Den är obligatorisk, och man ska ange "School program". Dels är den helt på svenska, dels saknas masterprogrammen. De flesta som läser denna kurs gissar jag läser den inom ett mastersprogram eller som fristående kurs. När valalternativen inte alls stämmer med verkligheten hade det varit mycket bättre att utelämna denna fråga.» - No» - This course wasn"t a masters level course. » - I"m not taking the program mentionaed above, but I"m an exchange student, so I"m only taking separate courses.» - I would have jumped this course if it had not been manditory. I will not recommend it to someone I like.» - Se till att ALL information är på engelska (även när man skall fylla i "program" i denna utvärdering). Mastersprogrammen saknas och de vanliga programmen står endast på svenska.» - Improve English on slides.» - Project work was actually hacking. You need experienced team for XP to work. Productivity would have dropped dramatically in month or two if we continued - no one understood the code. Also, too much time was spent trying to imitate the process, like dividing user stories in smaller parts (always 1.html 2.java code in our case). We didn"t own the process, process owned us. Maybe more demanding customer would have helped to make the process more realistic.» - THe course has potential of being something great, just to bad that the project spoils that chance completely.»
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