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Automotive Engineering Master Programme Evaluation-13, MPAUT

Background

1. Where did you study for your Bachelor degree?*

22 svarande

Sweden - Chalmers»		13		59%
Sweden - another university»		0		0%
University outside Sweden»		9		40%

Genomsnitt: 1.81

- National Institute of Technology, Rorekela,India» (University outside Sweden)
- University of Wisconsin-Platteville» (University outside Sweden)
- Vilnius Gediminas Technical University» (University outside Sweden)

2. What is your opinion on the information about the master programme when you applied?

22 svarande

Poor»		0		0%
Rather poor»		1		4%
OK»		3		14%
Good»		15		71%
Very good»		2		9%
I did not seek/need information»		1

Genomsnitt: 3.85

- It would have been nice to be directed to a summary of what the courses covered.» (Good)

Your own effort

3. How many hours per week have you spent studying at this programme?

22 svarande

Around 30 hours/week or less»		3		13%
Around 40 hours/week»		10		45%
Around 50 hours/week»		6		27%
Around 60 hours/week or more»		3		13%

Genomsnitt: 2.4

- Much much more when I was part of Chalmers Formula Student» (Around 40 hours/week)
- Higher for Formula, lower this year.» (Around 50 hours/week)
- Mainly formula student» (Around 50 hours/week)
- Spent on the only project that provides a good education for engineers. Chalmers Formula Student. » (Around 60 hours/week or more)

4. How large part of the teaching offered did you attend?

22 svarande

0%»		1		4%
25%»		0		0%
50%»		4		18%
75%»		11		50%
100%»		6		27%

Genomsnitt: 3.95

Goals and goal fulfilment

5. How understandable are the programme goals?

The goals are difficult to understand»		1		4%
The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer»		11		50%
The goals are clear enough»		10		45%

Genomsnitt: 2.4

- synthesize and evaluate automotive systems and products in terms of direct use and lifecycle analysis through consideration of environmental and economic aspects.: This outcome doesn"t seem to be achieved in the program. » (The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer)

6. Are the goals reasonable for a master degree?

No, the goals are set too low»		3		13%
No, the goals are a bit too low»		5		22%
Yes, the goals seem reasonable»		14		63%
No, the goals are a bit high»		0		0%
No, the goals are set too high»		0		0%

Genomsnitt: 2.5

- While the goals are reasonable, the degree to which they are fulfilled is inadequate.» (Yes, the goals seem reasonable)

Programme layout

7. What do you think of the programme layout?

Poor»		0		0%
Rather poor»		2		9%
OK»		6		27%
Good»		11		50%
Very good»		3		13%
No opinion»		0

Genomsnitt: 3.68

- It shall be interesting to offer automotive based applied controls alongside classical automotive technology.» (Good)
- Since it is called automotive engineering, it should indeed cover all of the important systems. I applied to this program to obtain a moderate understanding of all the main systems while focusing on powertrain. I saw it beneficial, for example, to study vehicle dynamics.» (Good)

8. Do the mandatory courses cover the main topics that you believe an Automotive Engineer should know?

22 svarande

No, not at all»		1		4%
To some extent»		2		9%
To a certain extent, yes»		5		22%
To a large extent, but not completely»		8		36%
Yes definitely»		6		27%
No comment»		0

Genomsnitt: 3.72

- Many of the mandatory courses are way too easy» (To some extent)
- The technical requirement in some of the courses is embarssingly low and does not make the student make an effort for it. The program can not set the level to the people that does not have a proper engineering background from their bachelour program. The only Challenging course is Internal Combustion Engines by Sven Andersson, the rest is of poor quality. The vehicle dynamics course is good content wise but the course material and the lecturer need to improve alot for it to be relevant. » (To a certain extent, yes)
- ICE - yes. VD - yes. VTS - needed, but the course should teach me something more than what some Volvo youtube videos and some hours on wikipedia can teach me. There was a lot of why safety systems are good, but not much on how they operate, and nothing as to good practices on how to integrate them properly (where you want to place sensors for example). EAS - delete the course immediately! I will reiterate myself: If you learn anything in this course, you should not have applied to a MASTER"S degree in automotive engineering! The sad part is one or two people do learn something. Why do you let these people in? The vast lack of knowledge cannot be made up in 1.5 years before the thesis and their entry into the industry will degrade the reputation of this program at Chalmers. Erasmus students take MPAUT courses because they are easy and lets them have time to party. Is this the reputation you want? I"m quite disappointed by it.» (To a certain extent, yes)
- EoAS needs more on what individual components a vehicle consists of, i think some students who arent especialy intrested in cars before need more on that subject. Perhaps some non-mandatory tasks.» (To a large extent, but not completely)
- In my opinion, Engineering of automotive systems course was more like college level, then university (especially master program).» (To a large extent, but not completely)

9. Do you miss a course or a topic in the master programme?

Yes»		7		33%
No»		14		66%

Genomsnitt: 1.66

- CFD for cars» (Yes)
- Controls (automotive application based only) Modern design-vehicle systems Automotive seminars and talks on developments» (Yes)
- Advanced Vehicle Aerodynamics, and a Vehicle Chassis engineering course» (Yes)
- Internship should be made mandatory as a part of the programme like other universities instead of courses like vehicle traffic and safety and eas.» (Yes)
- Yes it needs more advanced courses in each area.» (Yes)
- There"s nothing on frame design...well, apart from a ppt in EAS that shows the difference between a ladder frame and unibody construction.» (Yes)
- I miss a course in CFD with focus on both aerodynamics and engine flow. This is a necessary tool when working with engines and this course could now only be taken in the master program Applied Mechanics and are very theoretical, although it"s very good. The course also coincide with the course powertrain mechanics and the automotive project course, therefor it is hard to take all courses and get the base that I think is needed for an Engineer with focus on powertrain and engines.» (Yes)

10. Are there any courses that you think should either be heavily revised or even removed from the programme?

Yes»		12		54%
No»		10		45%

Genomsnitt: 1.45

- Engineering of automotive systems needs to have somebody that knows more about the whole system that is responsible for it there is alot of guest lecturers and alot of varying quality and level on the lectures. In the safety course the LS-dyna assignmnet and the people handling it have no interesst in teaching, very poor. » (Yes)
- Impact Biomechanics. » (Yes)
- EAS, VTS» (Yes)
- Engineering of AUtomotive Systems, Vehicle and Traffic Safety» (Yes)
- EAS and Vehicle Traffic and Safety, instead have an internship, even the RVAD course is not upto the mark.» (Yes)
- Engineering of automotive systems could be taught in the bachelors degree.» (Yes)
- The first course Engineering of Automotive systems is a joke. The examinare don"t know anything about vehicles. Change examiner!» (Yes)
- i think that engineering of automotive systems was a waste of time and need a major revision» (Yes)
- EAS, already explained. VTS, already explained.» (Yes)
- Engineering of automotive systems could be an optional course, it"s simple enough to pass on prior knowledge only» (Yes)
- I think that the course Engineering of Automotive systems is an important course to have in the beginning of the programme, but the content of the course is not satisfying. The course needs a clearer structure and focus areas could be revised. One example is the suspension area and assignment which is way to deep and big and with an complicated programme that is not possible to understand in that short time. Another assignment in vehicle dynamics would be helpful for the upcoming course in the same subject. » (Yes)
- Engineering of Automotive systems - heavily revised. Vehicle and traffics safety - improved.» (Yes)

11. Impressions of the Powertrain specialisation.

Matrisfråga

- To little theory on different systems on how they really work. Missing a real problem definition on the assignments and also how they are managed. »
- Powertrain Mechanics course is excellent.»
- 1)Case studies in Powertrain mechanics regarding development of certain technolgies can be included. 2)Advanced ICE is purely GT-Power based and could be more practical instead.»
- Fell that the advanced IC engine course could have more content, it seems to be very general in my opinion.»
- I would like more advanced courses in the area to select from.»
- the formula student project was very good in respect to obtaining practical knowledge. Uncertain about the coupling to industrial problems during courses»
- ICE was good, but review for me. This is a course the US covers in it"s Bachelor"s degrees. I did learn much more about diesels, though. Sven is good. The engine teardown was good for non PT people. HVC was also good. Nice to learn how and when to use power from the different sources. ICE Adv was disappointing. I wanted to finish the rest of the ICE book but instead it was a course on R&D methods and current research at Chalmers. Needs a name change to reflect what it is. Engine creation project in GT Power was fun, but the course doesn"t teach you how to create a good engine, just how to test one. Huge disconnect there. I didn"t take PM because I looked at a previous test and knew almost everything on it. I had covered it in my Bachelor"s (once again).»

relevance of the courses to this specialisation?
19 svarande

Very poor»		0		0%
Poor»		0		0%
OK»		2		11%
Good»		6		35%
Very good»		9		52%
No opinion»		2

Genomsnitt: 4.41

balance between theory and practise in this specialisation?
19 svarande

Very poor»		0		0%
Poor»		1		5%
OK»		7		41%
Good»		4		23%
Very good»		5		29%
No opinion»		2

Genomsnitt: 3.76

coupling to industrial problems in this specialisation?
19 svarande

Very poor»		0		0%
Poor»		1		5%
OK»		7		41%
Good»		4		23%
Very good»		5		29%
No opinion»		2

Genomsnitt: 3.76

teachers in this specialisation?
19 svarande

Very poor»		0		0%
Poor»		0		0%
OK»		2		11%
Good»		6		35%
Very good»		9		52%
No opinion»		2

Genomsnitt: 4.41

12. Impression of the Vehicle Dynamics specialisation.

Matrisfråga

- Could be more practise in the basic dynamics course. Adv. Veh dyn is a good example with a laboration excersise»
- 1)storaholm tests in Advanced VD-excellent. 2)RVAD is too basic, can be more insightful. 3)VD & Advanced VD assignments are excellent. 4)More time for ADAMS required.»
- Mr Bengt Jacobson is very poor for Chalmers standards, he might have a lot of knowledge but he cannot teach properly. Not sure why he is still teaching in spite of -ve feedback every year about this teaching.»

relevance of the courses to this specialisation?
18 svarande

Very poor»		0		0%
Poor»		0		0%
OK»		2		12%
Good»		8		50%
Very good»		6		37%
No opinion»		2

Genomsnitt: 4.25

balance between theory and practise in this specialisation?
18 svarande

Very poor»		0		0%
Poor»		0		0%
OK»		3		18%
Good»		7		43%
Very good»		6		37%
No opinion»		2

Genomsnitt: 4.18

coupling to industrial problems in this specialisation?
18 svarande

Very poor»		0		0%
Poor»		0		0%
OK»		4		25%
Good»		10		62%
Very good»		2		12%
No opinion»		2

Genomsnitt: 3.87

teachers in this specialisation?
18 svarande

Very poor»		0		0%
Poor»		2		12%
OK»		3		18%
Good»		9		56%
Very good»		2		12%
No opinion»		2

Genomsnitt: 3.68

13. Impression of the Safety specialisation.

Matrisfråga

relevance of the courses to this specialisation?
14 svarande

Very poor»		0		0%
Poor»		1		14%
OK»		3		42%
Good»		3		42%
Very good»		0		0%
No opinion»		7

Genomsnitt: 3.28

balance between theory and practise in this specialisation?
14 svarande

Very poor»		0		0%
Poor»		2		28%
OK»		2		28%
Good»		3		42%
Very good»		0		0%
No opinion»		7

Genomsnitt: 3.14

coupling to industrial problems in this specialisation?
14 svarande

Very poor»		0		0%
Poor»		0		0%
OK»		3		42%
Good»		4		57%
Very good»		0		0%
No opinion»		7

Genomsnitt: 3.57

teachers in this specialisation?
14 svarande

Very poor»		0		0%
Poor»		0		0%
OK»		3		42%
Good»		3		42%
Very good»		1		14%
No opinion»		7

Genomsnitt: 3.71

14. What is your impression of the automotive project courses: Automotive Engineering Project and Chalmers Formula Student?

Matrisfråga

- The only thing that have made me very satisfied with the automotive engineering program is Chalmers Formula Student, the amount of knowledge I gained and project experience have made me a far better engineer than I would have ever been if not for Chalmers Formula Student. The level of that project is delivering highly educated engineers that get superior problem solving abilities compared to all other students graduating this program. The significance of this becomes even clearer after a year participating and going back to attending regular courses working with people that have not participated in the project. Talking with people at the University not involved in the project I"m a bit disappointed that a larger interest is not shown and I think that the significance of this project is not fully appreciated by the staff at the institutions. The educational value could easily be expanded to include other courses which are dealing with the same problem which are faced when building a competition vehicle. Making students involved in a real life project makes the engagement much higher and would render a better education. »
- Chalmers Formula Student gives both a theoretical and a hands-on experience and an experience in project work that no other course I have attended at chalmers have ever done! »
- Additional topics to be included in the AEP, and more infrastructure to be made accessible. »
- 1)Introduction to team work and goal achievement 2)Good practice before Master Thesis work 3)Should include more projects by the academic year»
- Needs more administration, it was a bit unclear on what should be done when»
- It"s the best course on Chalmers! That was the reason for me to chose Chalmers.»
- The project demands that alot of the students work solely on the project during the summer an idea i had was that there could be a summer course available only to formula students in order to get CSN during the summer»
- The fact that the department keeps trying to kill this course disturbs me. I had 5 years of non-credited, low funded FS during my Bachelor"s, then worked as a PT engineer for 2yrs before coming to Chalmers. The skills you learn in FS advance the education in the automotive engineering field far beyond the average student. Despite my previous experience, a properly funded program allowed me to learn so much more and apply so much more of my knowledge than before. Just the design for manufacturing learned in this program is argument enough for it. I could speak at length on how this program is the only saving grace of the otherwise disturbing inadequacy of the MPAUT program.»

Chalmers Formula Student
22 svarande

Very poor»		0		0%
Poor»		1		10%
OK»		0		0%
Good»		1		10%
Very good»		8		80%
I have not participated in this project»		12

Genomsnitt: 4.6

Automotive Engineering Project
22 svarande

Very poor»		0		0%
Poor»		0		0%
OK»		1		11%
Good»		4		44%
Very good»		4		44%
I have not participated in this project»		13

Genomsnitt: 4.33

Programme administration

15. What is your general impression of the programme administration?

22 svarande

Very poor»		0		0%
Poor»		1		5%
OK»		3		17%
Good»		5		29%
Very good»		8		47%
No opinion»		5

Genomsnitt: 4.17

- For the fact they would consider ending the best educational experience the program offers, Formula Student.» (Poor)

16. What is your opinion of the information as a current student within the program?

Matrisfråga

- More information for people interested in PhD positions to be provided. »
- I was pretty lost and left to figure it out on my own in terms of applying to theses. No idea about PhD application.»

Program information
22 svarande

Very poor»		0		0%
Poor»		0		0%
OK»		3		15%
Good»		13		65%
Very good»		4		20%
No opinion»		2

Genomsnitt: 4.05

Specialisations
22 svarande

Very poor»		0		0%
Poor»		3		15%
OK»		7		36%
Good»		8		42%
Very good»		1		5%
No opinion»		3

Genomsnitt: 3.36

Elective courses
22 svarande

Very poor»		0		0%
Poor»		2		10%
OK»		9		45%
Good»		6		30%
Very good»		3		15%
No opinion»		2

Genomsnitt: 3.5

Projects
22 svarande

Very poor»		0		0%
Poor»		1		5%
OK»		9		47%
Good»		5		26%
Very good»		4		21%
No opinion»		3

Genomsnitt: 3.63

Theses
22 svarande

Very poor»		2		10%
Poor»		1		5%
OK»		7		36%
Good»		7		36%
Very good»		2		10%
No opinion»		3

Genomsnitt: 3.31

PhD studies
22 svarande

Very poor»		4		22%
Poor»		5		27%
OK»		4		22%
Good»		3		16%
Very good»		2		11%
No opinion»		4

Genomsnitt: 2.66

17. What is your opinion on the support from the Student centre (Johan Bankel, Lilian Sandström)?

Very poor»		1		7%
Poor»		0		0%
OK»		2		14%
Good»		7		50%
Very good»		4		28%
Did not seek their support or help»		8

Genomsnitt: 3.92

- almost impossible to reach Johan when you have questions (telephone mostly).» (Very poor)
- Only used to switch courses.» (OK)

Study climate

18. Did you feel welcomed by Chalmers and the staff at the master programme during your first days?

No, not at all»		0		0%
To some extent»		3		13%
Yes definitely»		19		86%
No opinion/did not attend»		0

Genomsnitt: 2.86

- The staff at the Master programme made good efforts during the first few days. However, I remember being promised, a t-shirt for the automotive engineering programme during the Automotive engineering welcome dinner. But we have not got it yet :)» (Yes definitely)

19. How well has cooperation between you and your fellow students worked?

Poorly»		0		0%
Rather poorly»		0		0%
OK»		0		0%
Rather well»		13		59%
Very well»		9		40%
Did not seek cooperation with my fellow students»		0

Genomsnitt: 4.4

- Some of the erasmus student have been quite tough to work with whilst other exchanges student have been teriffic to work with. Problems have occurred when our previous knowledge is too different, probably something that is quite hard to affect. other problems have been that they are not here to learn but rather drink as well as some that do not know how to write a technical report also issues with reports where they have copied their intire part. this has resulted in that i"ve mainly worked with people i"ve gotten to know already which have worked very well.» (Rather well)
- Really enjoy working with the Swedes. Very professional.» (Very well)

20. What do you think of the principle of having mixed groups (culture, gender) in some of the courses?

Bad»		1		4%
Rather bad»		2		9%
OK»		3		13%
Good»		5		22%
Very good»		11		50%
No opinion»		0

Genomsnitt: 4.04

- hard question since the bad experience i have from working in mixed groups doesn"t necessarily reflect their culture or group. I"ve probably been quite unlucky when being assigned groups but my experience is not that good from working with some of the erasmus students.» (Rather bad)
- In theory it"s great but it seems clear that you have placed people in MPAUT to fill a quota, not because they are qualified to pursue a Master"s in the subject. This only succeeds in misplacing the student and degrading the program"s reputation.» (Rather bad)
- Good but it should just be in one course.» (Good)
- Automotive courses generally have skewed gender ratio in favor of males though.» (Very good)
- Encourage it having more. » (Very good)

21. How are the opportunities to come in contact with teachers?

22 svarande

Very poor»		0		0%
Poor»		0		0%
OK»		0		0%
Good»		9		40%
Very good»		13		59%
Did not seek contact»		0

Genomsnitt: 4.59

- most of the teachers are very helpfull» (Very good)

22. Are your impression that the student opinions and results from course evaluations have significant impact and are taken seriously?

Not at all»		1		4%
Tome some extent»		9		42%
Yes, definetly»		11		52%
No opinion»		1

Genomsnitt: 2.47

- Don"t really know since there is no follow up sessions and since the same people does the same misstakes the year after i feel that this is not the case. » (Not at all)
- Not for vehicle dynamics basic.» (Tome some extent)

23. What do you think of attending an education given in English instead of in your native language?

Bad»		0		0%
Rather bad»		0		0%
OK»		0		0%
Good»		5		26%
Very good»		14		73%
No opinion»		3

Genomsnitt: 4.73

- Native: English» (No opinion)

24. To what extent is your knowledge/competence from your bachelor degree sufficient to attend this programme?

22 svarande

Poor»		0		0%
Rather poor»		0		0%
OK»		2		9%
Good»		5		22%
Very good»		15		68%

Genomsnitt: 4.59

- The courses are quite insightful in master studies and gives a picture of development frontiers of the chosen field of study, around the globe.» (OK)
- Didn"t have Matlab knowledge, but I would blame that on my Bachelors University and not Chalmers. But now they seem to have introduced Matlab in bachelors.» (OK)
- The level is too low on some of the courses » (Very good)
- As stated, this was more a review. It felt like 1.5 times my Bachelor"s. Not a full Master"s. It really hurts me to say that since I spent so much damn money here. It was my involvement in Formula (and the fact the tuition is non refundable) that kept me here the first semester.» (Very good)

25. What is your opinion about that you are expected to have computer skills in Matlab?

22 svarande

Very poor»		0		0%
Poor»		1		4%
OK»		4		18%
Good»		5		22%
Very good»		12		54%

Genomsnitt: 4.27

- Still learning.» (OK)
- It"s treated like it"s the only program out there, and some companies don"t even have it! Most Swedes don"t know how to do simple things in Excel, and if a company doesn"t have Matlab, they probably use Excel.» (OK)
- Matlab is the language of assignments. Introductory session is very good and is good help since I haven"t worked with Matlab earlier.» (Good)
- This should be mentioned in the course brochure so that we are aware of it before appliying » (Good)
- I didn"t have any skills in Matlab, but learned during these years and am really happy about that.» (Good)
- Matlab is very useful for the various tasks and assignments provided during the programme, however, please do mention that in the programme webpage on the Chalmers website that prior knowledge of Matlab will be beneficial, for prospective students.» (Very good)
- It wouldnt work otherwise, i believe that the exchange students have managed well» (Very good)
- It is good, but the international students don"t have this before the programme. Matlab is required in the first assignments in the first courses and as I have understand it the international students are offered lectures during this time, which means that the swedish students gets a large work load for the first assignments in the course engineering of automotive systems. » (Very good)

Summarizing questions

26. What is your general impression of the programme so far?

Very Poor»		0		0%
Poor»		1		4%
OK»		4		18%
Good»		12		54%
Very good»		5		22%

Genomsnitt: 3.95

- With an internship it would be a much better course.» (OK)
- The Good grade is only due to chalmers formula student project» (Good)
- Can be improved if made more extensive in content.» (Good)
- would have been very good if the vehicle aerodynamics interested students had more courses to choose regarding that topic/area.» (Good)
- Some courses are just too easy. I expected harder courses (first semester) from master degree program.» (Good)

27. Considering your experience from this programme, would you choose this programme if you could turn back time?

No»		3		14%
Yes»		18		85%
I do not know»		1

Genomsnitt: 1.85

- I have been taking Applied Mechanics courses and was relieved to see that not all of the programs at Chalmers are a pushover. I could get a better education from that program. Even though it doesn"t directly target automotive, many courses in that program are directly applicable.» (No)

28. What would be the best way to keep in contact for the future?

22 svarande

Mail»		13		61%
LinkedIn»		7		33%
Facebook»		1		4%
Other»		0		0%
Not interested»		0		0%
No opinion»		1

Genomsnitt: 1.42

- This could be a multi-answer question! Both mail and LinkedIn (and to some extend Facebook) are suitable methods in my opinion» (Mail)
- My mail id is carthikvenkataraman@gmail.com.» (Mail)
- sid.summer89@gmail.com» (Mail)
- Also e-mail» (LinkedIn)

29. What should definitely be preserved?

30. What should definitely be changed?

31. Additional comments

* obligatoriska frågor