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Introduction to discrete event systems, SSY165, HT2007

Status: Avslutad
Öppen för svar: 2007-10-12 - 2007-10-26
Antal svar: 47
Procent av deltagarna som svarat: 53%
Kontaktperson: Madeleine Persson»


Your own effort

1. How many hours per week did you spend on this course?

We mean total time, that is, it comprises the time you spent in class and the time you spent on your own work. Try to estimate the average time over the entire study period.

46 svarande

At most 15 hours/week»11 23%
Around 20 hours/week»16 34%
Around 25 hours/week»12 26%
Around 30 hours/week»5 10%
At least 35 hours/week»2 4%

Genomsnitt: 2.36

- Grunden varför jag inte har läst på mer är att jag ville lära mig svenska också. Och det är svårt att välja mellan skolan och svenska när jag bor i Göteborg.» (At most 15 hours/week)
- Quite low workload» (At most 15 hours/week)
- Way unorganized course» (Around 20 hours/week)

2. How large part of the teaching offered did you attend?

47 svarande

0%»0 0%
25%»2 4%
50%»7 14%
75%»13 27%
100%»25 53%

Genomsnitt: 4.29

- collided with another course» (50%)
- I went to the classes but not to the excercises.» (50%)
- Jag har försummat några lektioner som jag trodde att inte var nödvändiga för att klara tentan. Det betyder inte jag ville klara tentor utan att läsa på men det hänger ihop med det som jag har skrivit om att lära mig svenska.» (75%)
- I attended to all lectures but only two or three tutorials.» (75%)
- Felt as there was a lot of repetition.» (75%)
- Went to all the lectures and a few exercises.» (75%)
- to much repetition» (100%)


Goals and goal fulfilment

The course syllabus states the course goals in terms of learning outcomes, i.e., knowledge, skills and attitudes to be acquired by the student during the course.

3. How understandable are the course goals?

47 svarande

I have not seen/read the goals»7 14%
The goals are difficult to understand»1 2%
The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer»23 48%
The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn»16 34%

Genomsnitt: 3.02

- But they got clearer when Jonas on the first lecture explained all of them.» (The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer)

4. Are the goals reasonable considering your background and the number of credits?

Answer this this question and the succeeding one, only if you do know the course goals.

44 svarande

No, the goals are set too low»7 15%
Yes, the goals seem reasonable»37 84%
No, the goals are set too high»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.84

- Low workload for 7,5hp» (No, the goals are set too low)
- dont have anything to compare with. First master course» (Yes, the goals seem reasonable)
- the thing is that the goals arent set too low but the course substance could be extended. it could fit more substance in the course for that amount of hours.» (Yes, the goals seem reasonable)

5. Did the examination assess whether you have reached the goals?

44 svarande

No, not at all»0 0%
To some extent»14 31%
Yes, definitely»18 40%
I don"t know/have not been examined yet»12 27%

Genomsnitt: 2.95

- Det finns mycket att lära alltid och man kan aldrig prova om man kan det allt. Annars måste tentan vara en dygn.» (To some extent)
- good variation in the written exam and a good laboration.» (Yes, definitely)


Teaching and course administration

6. To what extent has the teaching been of help for your learning?

47 svarande

Small extent»3 6%
Some extent»12 25%
Large extent»26 55%
Great extent»6 12%

Genomsnitt: 2.74

- Good lectures by Bengt Lennartson.» (Large extent)

7. To what extent has the the course literature and other material been of help for your learning?

47 svarande

Small extent»6 12%
Some extent»16 34%
Large extent»23 48%
Great extent»2 4%

Genomsnitt: 2.44

- The literature was useless. It had no examples what so ever.» (Small extent)
- Jag avnvände mestadels mina anteckingnar. Kanske skulle jag ha köpt boken men det är inte huvudgrunden varför tentan inte gick bra.» (Small extent)
- The second part of the book was to teoretical to be useful.» (Some extent)
- The lectures were quite extensive, so the course material was used as secondary source.» (Some extent)
- The lecture notes where okay. But please have the figure referred to in the text on the same page as the explaining text! One more thing is that some things are explained so many times and with so many words, that very simple theory appears like quantum physics and confuses the reader in its attempt to REALLY EXPLAIN... » (Some extent)
- When it was available...» (Large extent)
- more material would be better, i think more material than nessecery is sometimes good because it could improve the overall knowledge.» (Large extent)
- I learn better from written texts than from lectures.» (Great extent)

8. How well did the course administration, web page, handouts etc work?

47 svarande

Very badly»2 4%
Rather badly»9 19%
Rather well»22 46%
Very well»14 29%

Genomsnitt: 3.02

- Hade ju varit bra mycket bättre om litteraturen kunde komma ut lite innan föreläsningarna så att man skulle kunna förbereda sig lite bättre. Men det var ju ändå starkt jobbat av Bele att skriva lit. samtidigt som kursen fortskrider! Så problemet jag tar upp kommer vara borta till nästa år...» (Very badly)
- Bengt obviously did his very best to make this work and strained himself to the limit. Whith this said its still not a very good excuse for how the administration worked. If bengts workload was to high to accept this course he shouldn"t have accepted it and if no one else was available, the institution have some arganizational problems that in the end affects the quality of the teaching and probarly Bengts health...» (Very badly)
- supremica doesn"t work on the cumputers at school» (Rather badly)
- The file update was too late.» (Rather badly)
- The literature was almost never on time.» (Rather badly)
- The book was available too late» (Rather well)


Study climate

9. How were the opportunities for asking questions and getting help?

46 svarande

Very poor»1 2%
Rather poor»2 4%
Rather good»19 41%
Very good»22 47%
I did not seek help»2 4%

Genomsnitt: 3.47

- Didn"t personally seek help, but noticed it was easy for other students to get it.» (Very good)

10. How well has cooperation between you and your fellow students worked?

46 svarande

Very poorly»1 2%
Rather poorly»0 0%
Rather well»17 36%
Very well»26 56%
I did not seek cooperation»2 4%

Genomsnitt: 3.6

- I found a studypartner at my first lecture and kept working with the same person. But it was hard to find more new people to work with. A lecture hall is not a good place to make new friend, that is much easier if there are some kind of forced group collaboration.» (Very poorly)
- Study with old classmates.» (Very well)
- Interesting to solve problems with people from other cultures than my own!» (Very well)

11. How was the course workload?

47 svarande

Too low»3 6%
Low»5 10%
Adequate»31 65%
High»8 17%
Too high»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 2.93

- I expected the course to be even harder with more to do, so in comparasion to that thought it is adequate. Otherwise mabye a little higher.» (Adequate)
- Det var inte för mycket att klara men om det var mer skulle det ha varit för svårt.» (High)

12. How was the total workload this study period?

47 svarande

Too low»1 2%
Low»6 12%
Adequate»17 36%
High»18 38%
Too high»5 10%

Genomsnitt: 3.42

- I read "Evolutionary computation" instead of modelling ans simulation.» (Adequate)
- Jag tog samtidigt en annan kurs samt skrev mitt examensarbete» (High)
- The other course did take a lot of time.» (High)
- Because of this course» (Too high)


Summarizing questions

13. What is your general impression of the course?

47 svarande

Poor»2 4%
Fair»3 6%
Adequate»14 29%
Good»26 55%
Excellent»2 4%

Genomsnitt: 3.48

- Poor administration. Lots of mindnumbingly boring theory.» (Poor)
- timedemanding» (Good)
- Det var trevligt och nyttigt.» (Good)
- There was a clear red thread through the whole course.» (Good)
- Very good course, taking into account it was the first year!» (Good)

14. What should definitely be preserved to next year?

- The literature »
- BeLe made some good connections to reality when explaining automaton etc.»
- Jonas as lecturer»
- the good administration and info»
- Jonas Fredriksson»
- A big hand-in that is worked on through the whole course.»
- more PLC practice»
- the PLC-lab»
- all of the parts taught inside this project must be preserved»
- the hand-ins and the litterature and bengt»
- beeing there for the students, which you always are!»
- The laboration and the energy of the tutor.»
- The laboration, the excerciseclasses.»
- I think all materials shall be preserved »
- The excercise papers, these were really good.»
- Maybe as revised version of the lecture notes.»
- The hand-ins were good»

15. What should definitely be changed to next year?

- change some sensors for the robot-lab. »
- The laboration that was almost identical to the laboration in the course Industriautomation last year. It would be nice to write, analyze and implement an automaton instead.»
- Some more contence and not as slow speed in lectures»
- The lab process should be repaired. It did not work very well.»
- There has been too much explaining on certain things, such as petri nets and how the tokens move. Move on and don"t overexplain things!»
- The tempo could be higher. »
- The literature.»
- Maybe the wide area of assignments and knowledge.»
- More and better feedback on the hand-in. After putting several days into a hand-in, some real feedback on would be nice. Becaus this is the first course in MPSYS there should be forced groups, at least for the student following that program.»
- none»
- Get a practical assignment on how to implement a superviser/controller.»
- considering he nature of the course it could have been of great help if some major references for this course had been introduced and this should be considered for the next year.»
- the litterture, finish it»
- the exercises»
- more stuff, for a 7,5 course its to little, we want to lern more.»
- The exercises are not similar to what is lectured, the lectures are always very simple and nice but the excersises are tougher. Maybe a complete book?»
- Results should not be posted on the notice-board, as it"s against Chalmers-rules.»
- No idea»
- Well the literature is done now so it won"t pose a problem next year. Otherwise I don"t think there are any major problem areas.»
- The administration. Make sure that the teacher actually have the time it takes to teach!»
- Much more examples during the lectures, less theory.»

16. Additional comments

- One of the first course where it felt as I was on the road to work as an engineer. You had to do real engineering assumptions about modelling problems to be able to solve them.»
- useful course»
- No comments»


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