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Modelling and simulation, ESS101, HT2007

Status: Avslutad
Öppen för svar: 2007-10-11 - 2007-10-26
Antal svar: 55
Procent av deltagarna som svarat: 52%
Kontaktperson: Madeleine Persson»

Your own effort

1. How many hours per week did you spend on this course?

We mean total time, that is, it comprises the time you spent in class and the time you spent on your own work. Try to estimate the average time over the entire study period.

54 svarande

At most 15 hours/week»9 16%
Around 20 hours/week»16 29%
Around 25 hours/week»17 31%
Around 30 hours/week»8 14%
At least 35 hours/week»4 7%

Genomsnitt: 2.66

- Pretty average when it comes to these kind of courses.» (Around 20 hours/week)
- Varies much, around hand-ins and such there is a lot more work, and inbetween, you have to spend time with the parallell course.» (Around 25 hours/week)
- very hard» (Around 25 hours/week)
- It is included the exercises and group reading» (Around 30 hours/week)

2. How large part of the teaching offered did you attend?

55 svarande

0%»0 0%
25%»5 9%
50%»2 3%
75%»19 34%
100%»29 52%

Genomsnitt: 4.3

- Didn"t atend the excersises after a while.» (75%)
- The excersises should consist of demostrating examples. It"s honourable that idividual work is promoted now that whe"re on masters level. But if I want to do individual work I don"t go to the classrooms anyway because they are to noisy and I dont get anything done anyway. What would really help is to se som demonstrations on how to solve problems!» (75%)
- Everything but the tutorials.» (75%)

Goals and goal fulfilment

The course syllabus states the course goals in terms of learning outcomes, i.e., knowledge, skills and attitudes to be acquired by the student during the course.

3. How understandable are the course goals?

55 svarande

I have not seen/read the goals»3 5%
The goals are difficult to understand»1 1%
The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer»21 38%
The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn»30 54%

Genomsnitt: 3.41

- It migh tbe hard to see the connection to the course if you don"t get it explained to you(but we did get that)» (The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer)
- The course syllabus is a very very important thing for erasmus students, because we need this to ask our homeuniversity if they accept this cours for an equal course in the homecountry. This syllabus was a good description of the course. Keep it up!» (The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn)

4. Are the goals reasonable considering your background and the number of credits?

Answer this this question and the succeeding one, only if you do know the course goals.

52 svarande

No, the goals are set too low»1 1%
Yes, the goals seem reasonable»50 96%
No, the goals are set too high»1 1%

Genomsnitt: 2

- It could focus on more important aspects in system identification such as nonlinear methotds, and neural networks.» (No, the goals are set too low)
- At lot of things that at least I haven"t learned before are assumed to be known. Example covariance of functions and exact dicretisation.» (Yes, the goals seem reasonable)

5. Did the examination assess whether you have reached the goals?

53 svarande

No, not at all»0 0%
To some extent»19 35%
Yes, definitely»16 30%
I don"t know/have not been examined yet»18 33%

Genomsnitt: 2.98

- The exam was a bit tricky and came as a surprise for many students. The tasks wasn"t represented in the given excersise material or older exams.» (To some extent)
- Note about the exam: Comparing our exam with previous exams shows that our exam was much harder relative exams before. On this fact, the examinator increases the pass grade to 50%. I can say that my impression is that the examinator is truly intressted so that atleast 90% of the class fail. You dont make an exam as difficult as possible and then raise the grade-scale!» (To some extent)
- The exam covered what I expected it to but the problems where very much more difficult than the ones in the course material.» (Yes, definitely)

Teaching and course administration

6. To what extent has the teaching been of help for your learning?

55 svarande

Small extent»1 1%
Some extent»16 29%
Large extent»31 56%
Great extent»7 12%

Genomsnitt: 2.8

- The lectures where very good, so was the hand in to, but the excercise sessions where not very rewarding at all. The only use they did was when problems where demonstrated.» (Some extent)
- Good lectures. Good structure. Good level, though sometimes maybe assuming that I know things I"ve never heard before.» (Large extent)
- good teacher» (Large extent)
- Jonas och även Muhammed har varit väldigt hjälpsamma när man har haft frågor.» (Large extent)

7. To what extent has the the course literature and other material been of help for your learning?

55 svarande

Small extent»11 20%
Some extent»20 36%
Large extent»21 38%
Great extent»3 5%

Genomsnitt: 2.29

- I don"t find it particulary useful. There are many things I"ve been trying to find, but not found, and the explanations in the book are very bad. Often it is just a formula within the text, and no examples of how to use it.» (Small extent)
- No need for buying this book, Jonas explains everything that needs to be explained.» (Small extent)
- almost never looked in it» (Small extent)
- The book doesn"t deserve to be called course literature, I don"t care it that means I can"t sell it next year. Just get rid of it!» (Small extent)
- The physical modelling part has little to add. The system identifications part gives a broader picture than the brief lectures.» (Some extent)
- The course literature could be better.» (Some extent)
- I prefer exacter/longer solutions to the excercises. (I know there is always a big discussion about it:-)» (Some extent)
- The book was completly useless, there are som many ways I"d rather have spent those 620 SEK that it almost hurts to thik about it! I only used my notes from the lectures whan I studied for the exam. The simulink & modelica tutorials were however very good.» (Some extent)

8. How well did the course administration, web page, handouts etc work?

55 svarande

Very badly»0 0%
Rather badly»2 3%
Rather well»29 52%
Very well»24 43%

Genomsnitt: 3.4

- some comments were told in class, OFFICIAL COMMENTS SHOULD BE POSTED ON THE PAGE LONG BEFORE DEADLINE!» (Rather badly)
- Very well organized class» (Very well)
- Lecture notes were always available bhefore lectures.» (Very well)
- The only thing for the next time is perhaps one informationpapper about the exam. With time and exact room on it. » (Very well)
- Always on time!» (Very well)

Study climate

9. How were the opportunities for asking questions and getting help?

55 svarande

Very poor»0 0%
Rather poor»3 5%
Rather good»15 27%
Very good»32 58%
I did not seek help»5 9%

Genomsnitt: 3.7

- Good luck» (Rather poor)
- The techers weren"t always able to help. And there were too many students in the small rooms (EL42 and 43)» (Rather poor)
- Sometimes you have to wait to long in the excercises until you can ask» (Rather good)
- but could be better. Almost everyone was at the time in a small classrome to ask questions» (Rather good)
- Most dedicated exerciseteacher was Muhammed in my opinion.» (Rather good)
- Jonas in class or after the class answers the questions very good. He satisfied me. » (Very good)
- Jonas helped when he had the time to do so, even if it wasn"t scheduled time.» (Very good)
- Jonas was very easy to get a hold of besides the original lectures.» (Very good)
- Jonas is a lump of gold, whenever he had the opportunity, he went out of his way to help and with a smile too!» (Very good)

10. How well has cooperation between you and your fellow students worked?

55 svarande

Very poorly»0 0%
Rather poorly»5 9%
Rather well»23 41%
Very well»26 47%
I did not seek cooperation»1 1%

Genomsnitt: 3.41

11. How was the course workload?

55 svarande

Too low»1 1%
Low»3 5%
Adequate»29 52%
High»20 36%
Too high»2 3%

Genomsnitt: 3.34

- System identification was hard. And the report writing took a lot of time.» (High)
- Med både Dymola, Simulink och Ident hade det blivit väldigt mycket att göra. Det kändes bra när Dymola inte fungerade, hade tillräckligt att göra ändå.» (High)

12. How was the total workload this study period?

54 svarande

Too low»1 1%
Low»6 11%
Adequate»23 42%
High»16 29%
Too high»8 14%

Genomsnitt: 3.44

- This course took the most time.» (Adequate)
- 4 kurser» (Too high)

Summarizing questions

13. What is your general impression of the course?

55 svarande

Poor»0 0%
Fair»4 7%
Adequate»7 12%
Good»39 70%
Excellent»5 9%

Genomsnitt: 3.81

- The lab session could be better, but guess there is no time. More effort to dymola. » (Fair)
- It was very good, almost perfect until Jonas messed up the examination. Very "funny" to listen to everyone saying that they lay between 10 and 13 points on the exam, gonna be intresting to see how many that passes.» (Fair)
- Tought from an engineer"s perpective, which I like.» (Good)
- Very well organized class. » (Good)
- Framförallt Jonas Fredrikssons förtjänst. En av dom mest hjälpsamma lärarna jag haft under min 5-åriga Chalmersvistelse.» (Good)
- Gillade verkligen Jonas fredriksson, han tar sig enormt mycket tid för sina studenter. Dessutom var det väldigt bra övningslärare, även de väldigt hjälpsamma och engagerade. Helt klart den bästa kursen av de kurser jag läst på chalmers, med avseende på lärarna.» (Excellent)

14. What should definitely be preserved to next year?

- Simulink, SITB.»
- The system identification computer session»
- There is nothing to preserve. »
- The examiner and course contents, the computer laborations»
- The book and the contese»
- The hand in-assignments and the laboratory experiment.»
- The comparasion between physical modeling and system identification. To work the whole study period with the same problem.»
- The hand-in is good»
- You build three different models of the same system.»
- The hand-in assignment!»
- the problem solving lessons and hand-in assignment»
- more practice»
- The laboration, good way to learn the modelling part»
- the hand in assignement. Took alot of time but was very good»
- Projektupplägget var mkt bra. Förutom Dymola-delen, som jag tycker kan tas bort. Det blir lite för mkt olika simuleringsprogram, så det är lätt att blanda ihop dem och istället inte lära sig nåt.»
- de mest, väldigt bra med projekt och upplägget på projektet»
- the first parts of the course up to bond graphs and linear system identification were perfectly fine»
- The projects and lectures»
- The lab, this was very good. Overall the teaching was very good, I really enjoyed going to class. I think this course is allright even without the book, maybe post some articles on the web instead?»
- Jonas!»
- The hand-ins. But combine them to a bigger hand-in that has some kind of bigger written report in the end.»
- The hands-on laboration with the computer tools.»

15. What should definitely be changed to next year?

- The Dymola sessions.»
- More examples. Unfortunately the book is very theoretical thus there should be more examples. Also in exercise the assistance should solve more examples. »
- Maybe the litterature»
- Some more backgrounds for formulas etc. Proofs.»
- You shuldn"t have to use both Dymola and Simulink, one of them should be enough. Simulink that is... Dymola kind of suck...»
- The course book!»
- Spend more time on the last subjects!»
- More help techers with better knowledge.»
- Computers that can handle Dymola/Modelica»
- I think some extra litterature for chapters 3 (only the last part), 8 and 9 would be nice since the book is extremely bad on these subjects. »
- better chapter about DAE»
- most is ok»
- Change of course litterature, it is useless when the course is rathers hands on and the literature is very theoretical»
- spread the problem solving sessions to two times a week»
- Include solutions to exercises»
- Var väldigt glad över att dymola inte fungerade, tycker att det blir väl mycket dataprogram att lära sig.»
- the part of changing from continuous to discrete must be more emphasized »
- No idea»
- Solutions to problems should be accessible, the book didn"t help solving problems at all and the problem solving sessions were noisy and not very nice to attend. Self studies sounds like a good idea but it"s more helpful to see someone solve tasks "the right way" and then do your own studies else where.»
- The book! More problem sovling demos. »
- Have all the literature redy in the beginning of the course.»
- Again, grade 3 should be 10 points (not 12!).»
- Answers to exercises. It was very missleading when I thought I was wrong when infact is was the answer that was not to correct. The communication between the assistants and the teacher can be better. The assitants need at least be able to do the exercises.»

16. Additional comments

- Use proper values on the home asg. and check YOUR spelling. What you give is what you get. »
- This course is organized well, the project and hand-in assignment was good but it it suffer from lack of example. Because learning by example is very good than just have theory. I would like to thank Jones and hiss assistances. He was really good in this course. »
- I plea the fifth.»
- Good class»
- none»
- no comments»
- I think the last chapters were much harder to understand byt was given much smaller amount of time then the first part of the course.»

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