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Applied mechatronics, SSY155, VT2008

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1. How many hours per week did you spend on this course?

37 svarande

At most 15 hours/week»		6		16%
Around 20 hours/week»		12		32%
Around 25 hours/week»		9		24%
Around 30 hours/week»		7		18%
At least 35 hours/week»		3		8%

Genomsnitt: 2.7

- I did not learn anything that I had not already learned earlier! Very disappointed!» (At most 15 hours/week)
- Different from week to week. A lot of time was spent during the laboration weeks, especially with handins+labs at once.» (Around 20 hours/week)
- The workload of the course was good except computer assignment 1 that was too extensive.» (Around 20 hours/week)
- Very demanding» (Around 25 hours/week)
- The course is not organized !!» (Around 30 hours/week)
- Between 30-35 h/w» (Around 30 hours/week)
- The time load was unstable during the course. Manny things were unclear from the beginning which made it hard to plann your time.» (Around 30 hours/week)
- I worked a lot on this course: the articles,labs, problem solving exercises without any solutions!!! and computer exercises as well as reading the literature made the workload huge!» (At least 35 hours/week)

2. How large part of the teaching offered did you attend?

37 svarande

0%»		0		0%
25%»		4		10%
50%»		2		5%
75%»		12		32%
100%»		19		51%

Genomsnitt: 4.24

- Colissions» (25%)
- collisions with another course» (25%)
- I only missed classes that I _could_ not attend.» (75%)
- Some lectures gave the feeling that they didn´,t give so much. Example. Slides with "cool/interesting" pictures that everyone knew what it was. Slides/blackboard calculations that not manny understood because too hard and to fast presenting.» (100%)
- The lectures actually gave me very little, only as guidance in knowing what is necessary to learn.» (100%)

Goals and goal fulfilment

3. How understandable are the course goals?

I have not seen/read the goals»		4		10%
The goals are difficult to understand»		11		29%
The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer»		17		45%
The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn»		5		13%

Genomsnitt: 2.62

- This course should be removed from SCM» (The goals are difficult to understand)
- The goals are too unspecified» (The goals are difficult to understand)
- It was more control theory that i thought in the begining. Since my background/master are Product development, it was not what i preffered. A more overview system thinking, or that you could shoos a area to digg in to, instead of getting forced to learn something you rather not. I still wan´,t the course since mechatronics are the future.» (The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer)
- The students were supposed to know a little to much from the start and many things could be explained more deep.» (The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer)
- I don"t know if we"ve reached that goal...» (The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn)

4. Are the goals reasonable considering your background and the number of credits?

31 svarande

No, the goals are set too low»		2		6%
Yes, the goals seem reasonable»		22		70%
No, the goals are set too high»		7		22%

Genomsnitt: 2.16

- Reasonable but all unclearness made it take more time that it should. (lucky i had a project and not a nother course paralell with this!!)» (Yes, the goals seem reasonable)

5. Did the examination assess whether you have reached the goals?

No, not at all»		4		11%
To some extent»		16		45%
Yes, definitely»		2		5%
I don"t know/have not been examined yet»		13		37%

Genomsnitt: 2.68

- The examn was shit. It contained excersises/formulation not included in the course. How many understand the OP amplifier? Excersise nr.5 was set to high. I dont know anyone who passed it. It was error in the spelling, formulation and humongous printing error. I hate that kind of disturbance on an examn. It was non professional and did"nt reflect the course. It should be more bonus points from the handins. Shame on Jonas for a shitty course» (No, not at all)
- I followed the lectures, passed all labs and solved all recommended problems, yet I failed the exam!» (No, not at all)
- The question about the OP-aplifire were way out (10 points of 50) since it wasn´,t included in the required pages in the course book. Else they were good devided. It would have been perfect if the Op-amp question had been more consentrated on sensor knowledge.» (To some extent)
- The laborations was good but the exam only covered a small part of the course. For example the exam didn"t cover either different sensor or motor types which is a major part as the course. Furthermore some of the questions on the exams required that you searched through the papers and then just wrote down the answers, I don"t see how this can show what you have learned during the course.» (To some extent)

Teaching and course administration

6. To what extent has the teaching been of help for your learning?

Small extent»		13		36%
Some extent»		20		55%
Large extent»		3		8%
Great extent»		0		0%

Genomsnitt: 1.72

- I"ve studied very much on my own. I don"t benefit that much from lectures or problem solving sessions.» (Small extent)
- Just guidance» (Small extent)
- There were too few real lectures, too much time was spent on other things. And the lectures we had were too much of an overview, it felt like the course never really started.» (Small extent)
- He dont know how to be pedagogic at all. » (Small extent) (den här kommentaren har blivit redigerad i efterhand)
- I learned much during the course but it wasn"t thanks to Jonas Sjöberg. There were almost none problems during the course that we got the solutions for and when you asked questions he were unwilling to help.» (Small extent) (den här kommentaren har blivit redigerad i efterhand)
- Too much repetition of the same facts (motor-gearhead).» (Some extent)
- Att inte få ut lösningar eller åtminstone svar till de övningsuppgifter som rekomenderas är riktigt dåligt! Om man är osäker, som många har varit under den här kursen, så kan det vara riktigt bra att få tillgång till lösningar så att man kan följa samtliga steg i lösningsprocessen! Tyvärr gör jag bedömningen att det är snarare lathet än påstådda pedagogiska vinningar som ligger bakom att vi inte fick lösningar till problemen. Institutionen kanske skulle planera lite bättre så att arbetsbördan på kursledare inte blir mer än vad de klarar av! Det kan nog även vara en bra idé att se över engelskakunskaperna på institutionerna, kanske genom en tenta, för att se vilka som behöver träna mer. För jag kan tänka mig att det inte är så lätt för en utbytesstudent med annat modersmål än svenska att förstå föreläsaren när den står och talar "svenska... fast med engelska ord" » (Some extent)
- The lectures could be more well prepeared. And Jonas could buy a new computer so he donät have to spend time on setting up dual displays everytime.» (Some extent)
- Both lectures and problem solving sessions could have been better and more learning/helping. The problem solving sessions could have half of the time solved problems on the board and the other half of the time for your own.» (Some extent)

7. To what extent has the the course literature and other material been of help for your learning?

Small extent»		3		8%
Some extent»		13		35%
Large extent»		20		54%
Great extent»		1		2%

Genomsnitt: 2.51

- I"ve barely used the course book. » (Small extent)
- The course book has little to do with course. It was too deep. We didn"t know exactly what to read and the excersises had no solutions.» (Small extent)
- The book is quite bad. » (Some extent)
- Really badly written book. Same sentences over again. Every equation is numbered, and the sama equation is stated on several places. Really hard to know which equations that are of importance. Som muck unnessesare texts.» (Some extent)
- The book is good, but it definitely lacks solutions. HAS to be changed.» (Large extent)
- The book covers almost everything but the problems in the book are really bad. There are errors in almost all the excercises. For the next year the excercises should be updated and Jonas should select excersises more carefully.» (Large extent)
- The cours book was fairly good. Almost all the questions in the cours book was verry baad!! » (Large extent)
- used mostly the book» (Large extent)
- Good book!» (Large extent)
- The book was maybe a litle too detaild, it was hard to know what details that were important» (Large extent)
- The book is good except there is no answers or solutions to the problems. For next year it would be better if the teachers showed how to solve more questions on the board and handed out solutions so that you can know if you have done right. This year many students didn"t do any problems until last week because it was hard getting started. To learn from the book is time consuming and we would learn more if we got more help to see how to solve problems.» (Great extent)

8. How well did the course administration, web page, handouts etc work?

Very badly»		3		8%
Rather badly»		10		27%
Rather well»		19		51%
Very well»		5		13%

Genomsnitt: 2.7

- We always gets the materials for week_2 in week_4 and for week_3 in week_7 so ???? » (Very badly)
- More lecture notes schould be uploaded to the webpage.» (Rather badly)
- Lot"s of changes in scheduling and poor planning of lab work. » (Rather badly)
- Deadlines and required hand-ins changed frequently as well as the assignments were quite unclear in terms of task and expected outcome.» (Rather badly)
- Ok handins/labs, just vague descriptions. More structure needed so more time is had to absorb the knowledge instead of figuring out what we are trying to do.» (Rather well)
- It could have been more structured with the scheduled that Jonas showed every lecture.» (Rather well)
- Handouts is good, should be more points on that.» (Rather well)
- The bad thing was that the information wasnt there from the begining of the course, and was changing alot. But the pdf of the course overview were good so you knew the deadlines and so on. The course PM was also good, when it was "finnished". » (Rather well)
- Some of the documents came out late but othervise it was good.» (Rather well)

Study climate

9. How were the opportunities for asking questions and getting help?

Very poor»		4		10%
Rather poor»		5		13%
Rather good»		15		40%
Very good»		10		27%
I did not seek help»		3		8%

Genomsnitt: 3.08

- The lectures were so bad that everybody left it after the beark.» (Very poor)
- Det är ju lite tråkigt att flertalet gånger få höra från Jonas Sjöberg att man mer eller mindre endast i nödfall skall kontakta lärarna på kuresen för att fråga om hjälp. » (Very poor)
- On all other departments I have been to get help the response has been kind and helpful but Jonas Sjöbergs respons is a catastrophe.» (Very poor)
- Very good help from Nikolce» (Rather poor)
- There were a few exercises worth the name but it should have been more of them and easier. You should not have to ask the teacher for every excersise you do.» (Rather poor)
- Nikolce was very helpful when contacted. Commendable!» (Rather good)
- The help techers did not have the answers for all the excercsises.» (Rather good)
- There were time to ask questions, but since some "basic" things were hard to get, you dont want to look like a "fool" and ask about it. In that manner it would be good if they could do som problems on the board, throughly, since everyone doesn"t have the same background.» (Rather good)

10. How well has cooperation between you and your fellow students worked?

Very poorly»		1		2%
Rather poorly»		2		5%
Rather well»		17		45%
Very well»		17		45%
I did not seek cooperation»		0		0%

Genomsnitt: 3.35

- Should have tried early on to find a "group" to solve problems in...» (Rather poorly)
- This was the only good thing with the course» (Rather well)
- Without my friends i would not pass the course for sure.» (Very well)
- It was time to ask friends durring problem sessions, and from the paper reading task.» (Very well)

11. How was the course workload?

Too low»		1		2%
Low»		2		5%
Adequate»		18		48%
High»		7		18%
Too high»		9		24%

Genomsnitt: 3.56

- Inlämningarna förefaller mig mycket viktigare en allt övrigt» (Adequate)
- A little bit too high with computer assignment 1 but othervise good.» (Adequate)
- I didn"n understand what to learn.» (High)
- Mostly since unclear assingmets, labs, deadlines and so on. Also if more help to solve problems in the begining of the course, the load would have been better.» (High)
- Inlupparna var mycket tidskrävande och något dåligt formulerade. Det gör inget om en inlupp är svår, men den skall vara entydigt formulerad! Vad gäller dimensionering av växellåda och DC-motor uppgiften så hade Jonas och Nikolce olika uppfattningar om vad det var som egentligen skulle göras! Och det är ju lite tråkigt, har någon på institutionen testat mjukvaran för detta och verifierat resultaten på en verklig motor och växellåda?» (Too high)

12. How was the total workload this study period?

Too low»		1		2%
Low»		2		5%
Adequate»		15		41%
High»		6		16%
Too high»		12		33%

Genomsnitt: 3.72

- The other course tock some damages due to the total work load.» (High)
- The fact that students from the product development master is taking this course together with students from the Systems, Control and Mechatronics masterprogram is very strange since they should have alot more experience needed for this course» (Too high)
- no free time almost! pressure was on all the time to hand in labs from both courses» (Too high)

Summarizing questions

13. What is your general impression of the course?

Poor»		10		27%
Fair»		8		21%
Adequate»		14		37%
Good»		4		10%
Excellent»		1		2%

Genomsnitt: 2.4

- The prerequisites for this course says nothing about prior knowledge in simulink and the programming language C, simulink is a large part of the course.» (Poor)
- Change the teacher Please !!!» (Poor)
- Mycket slarv från kursledningen, dåligt att inte allt material (förutom det från gästföreläsningar) ligger uppe på hemsidan från start. Att man genomför en inlupp och efter deadline har en föreläsning om hur man skall göra, är ju bara för jävla dåligt planerat!» (Poor)
- The worst course in a long time.» (Poor)
- For the name applied, i would expected to actually built something.» (Poor)
- Very interesting material but poor teaching and bad assessment of workload (the articles for example were unnecessary)» (Poor)
- Four weeks spent on motors is way too much. The course name is APPLIED but there is no applied in it.» (Poor)
- It most be more structurded and the excercises most be better.» (Fair)
- Needs some shaping up but the concept is good.» (Fair)
- Good content but very poor execution by Jonas.» (Fair)
- I couldn"t really get what the course was suppose to be giving and what was "applied" with it» (Fair)
- Unstructured and alot of different fields!!! Too much in so little time, considering having another course at the same time!» (Fair)
- Jag är lite förlägen» (Adequate)
- Coursebook wasn"t that good.» (Adequate)
- The second computer assignment was sometimes confusing. Mostly because of the servoDim program» (Adequate)
- Too many different things to hand in and solve, but also makes it more interesting...» (Good)
- The labs shuold have been larger.» (Good)

14. What should definitely be preserved to next year?

15. What should definitely be changed to next year?

16. Additional comments

17. Applied Mechatronics is a new course, given the first time this year. What changes would you suggest for next year, considering the following course parts: Computer assignment 1: Modeling ...

Remove»		2		5%
Decrease»		12		33%
Good as it is»		17		47%
Expand»		5		13%

Genomsnitt: 2.69

18. Computer assignment 2: Optimal selection of motor and gearhead

Remove»		10		27%
Decrease»		9		24%
Good as it is»		15		40%
Expand»		3		8%

Genomsnitt: 2.29

19. Lab assignment 1: rapid prototyping of an oscillating driveline

Remove»		1		2%
Decrease»		3		8%
Good as it is»		21		58%
Expand»		11		30%

Genomsnitt: 3.16

20. Lab assignment 2: programming a microcontroller

Remove»		3		8%
Decrease»		2		5%
Good as it is»		20		55%
Expand»		11		30%

Genomsnitt: 3.08

21. Reading scientific papers

Remove»		14		37%
Decrease»		5		13%
Good as it is»		15		40%
Expand»		3		8%

Genomsnitt: 2.18

22. Would you like to see more hand-in problems and less lectures?

Yes»		11		31%
Good as it is»		10		28%
No»		14		40%

Genomsnitt: 2.08

23. Which master program are you following?

24. Do you think students at your master program, in general, have the right prior knowledge for the course?

25. Do you feel that the course can be recommended to other students at your master program?