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MPSOF 1213-1 Requirements engineering, DAT230Status: AvslutadÖppen för svar: 2012-10-25 - 2012-11-11 Antal svar: 36 Procent av deltagarna som svarat: 54% Kontaktperson: Börje Johansson» Utbildningsprogram som genomför enkäten: Informationsteknik 300 hp
Your own effort1. Which university are you a student of?36 svarande
Genomsnitt: 1.22 - I"m bored, so I"m going to write a lot...» (Chalmers) 2. How many hours per week did you spend on this course?We mean total time, that is, it comprises the time you spent in class and the time you spent on your own work. Try to estimate the average time over the entire study period.36 svarande
Genomsnitt: 2.91 - The workload was quite average. Good job!» (Around 20 hours/week) 3. How large part of the teaching offered did you attend?36 svarande
Genomsnitt: 4.25 - Missed the majority of lectures due to clashes with work schedule, alas. » (50%) Goals and goal fulfilmentThe course syllabus states the course goals in terms of learning outcomes, i.e., knowledge, skills and attitudes to be acquired by the student during the course.4. How understandable are the course goals?35 svarande
Genomsnitt: 2.64 - Some of words used in the description are unknown if you are not familiar with the field. But since you finish with the course everything is crystal clear» (The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn) 5. Are the goals reasonable considering your background and the number of credits?Answer this this question and the succeeding one, only if you do know the course goals.30 svarande
Genomsnitt: 2.06 - Whatever they are, I"m sure they"re reasonable.» (Yes, the goals seem reasonable) 6. Did the examination assess whether you have reached the goals?34 svarande
Genomsnitt: 2.36 - Too much of the typical learning-by-heart questions.» (To some extent) Teaching and course administration7. To what extent has the teaching been of help for your learning?36 svarande
Genomsnitt: 2.83 - The quality of the theoretical part varied» (Some extent) 8. To what extent has the course literature and other material been of help for your learning?36 svarande
Genomsnitt: 2.97 - I wouldn"t recommend buying the book to anyone, going to all lectures is enough for this course.» (Some extent) 9. How well did the course administration, web page, handouts etc work?36 svarande
Genomsnitt: 3.3 - Feedback from first and second assignment was very poor. I only received one sentence of feedback that said I need to read more about two quality attributes. The feedback also came too late, but that I guess you are already aware about.» (Very badly) Study climate10. How were the opportunities for asking questions and getting help?36 svarande
Genomsnitt: 3.35 - Late and poor feedback on assigment 1 and 2, ambigius answers from techers aid» (Very poor) 11. How well has cooperation between you and your fellow students worked?36 svarande
Genomsnitt: 3.08 - The level of peoples" English knowledge is in many cases too low. This creates a lot of frustration and extra work during the work with the SRS project. » (Rather poorly) 12. How was the course workload?35 svarande
Genomsnitt: 3.68 - The workload was uneven and it was unnecessary. We sat waiting for the feedback from our first assignment for weeks, and then we started this (massive) project with just weeks left of the course. The project should have started on day one.» (Adequate) 13. How was the total workload this study period?36 svarande
Genomsnitt: 4.33 - Sometimes I barely had time to study, because I also work 20 hours/week.» (High) Summarizing questions14. What is your general impression of the course?36 svarande
Genomsnitt: 3.8 (bidrar till totalt genomsnitt/jämförelseindex) - I actually don"t think that a course like this is necessary. In my opinion you could squeeze important parts of this course in to another course and it would be enough. Requirements Engineering in MY opinion is not that big of a subject, there are definately more important parts of software engineering to have a course in, or maybe put in a elective course instead. Please don"t misunderstand me, I think the subject is really important. But it is not big enough to have in it"s own course I think.
Hope I don"t hurt any feelings, but I don"t think I will since I"m just an inexperienced student.» (Poor) 15. What should definitely be preserved to next year?- Robert Feldt»- This exam was good » - Course page. Robert. Pariya. Guest lectures.» - * The first two assignments * The teacher (examiner) * The course assistants» - project, practice-oriented learning» - The course people were great. Also, the first assignment was giving.» - The help for the assignments, as well as the first assignment» - The Teachers. Assignment 1 and 2 but faster feedback! » - Group Assignment» - The group project. It helps not just understanding the theoretical concepts but also apply them practically which gives a lot more insight.» - Video recordings of the lectures was really nice! » - Course Twitter, The Assignments» - The customer interview played by the professor and the assistant was both funny and I learnd a lot. So, please keep this. You determined the groups for the third assignment. At the beginning it was very though. But looking back now I think that this was a very good idea. I learned to work with people that were strange to me in the beginning and were from different cultural backgrounds as well. » - Video recording for each lecture.» - Paryah was a really good tutor, would have been very interesting to have her do some of the lectures. I liked the guest lecturers. Course administration was quite good, liked the schedule and the twitter account.» - Case works » - All course material are good and can be used in next year.» - Not a huge first assignment were we get feed back after 5 weeks. The feedback was also really bad. It did not help me understand what I had done wrong and I could improve my work. » - The video slides, individual assignment, web page» - The way of the lectures are performed. The good vibes and the humor of the professor and his associates in the class. » - All of the teaching material.» - Group assignments» - The mandatory guest lecture, it was very interesting!» - Course web page, instant info feedback through news section» - The guest lecture was interesting, as well as many of the lectures where example was included.» - Labs and group and individual assignments , » - Keep recording lectures.» - The course itself is good, preserve most of it, just make some changes to the third assignment, perhaps releasing it a week early -- and make sure that you give out proper feedback on the first two assignements. It was very frustrating getting really poor feedback really late, as the feedback could then not be used to inform the third assignment. » - similar lectures» 16. What should definitely be changed to next year?- Beter feedback on hand-ins and assignments»- The project didn"t feel that good. Could be solved differently.» - Start with assigment 3 earlier» - The practical part, scrap it and start over. » - * The group assignment is too big and it starts too late, or at least it finishes too late. No time to study for the exam. Many parts of the group assignment (of the template) are also irrelevant in my opinion, and they just take time to finish.» - please give an better overview of the whole area. For example clearer links between Elicitation, Analysis, Validation. What comes after what?» - Remove the home exam, replace it by some individual practical assignment, or give out last year"s exam. Also, allow people to choose their groups. The 2nd assignment was kind of pointless in my opinion. The Volere template is very vague on some points, maybe you should prepare your own template with answers to frequently asked questions?» - The project should be made bigger, should start a lot earlier and it should have a percentage in the final grade. The second assignment should be removed. I haven"t learned anything new from that assignment except the fact that some people taking this master can have a really bad English (I wasn"t expecting that)» - Assignment three: It is a really good assignment but I would have prefered (since it was late start and so on) that teachers explained more about writing requirments as a pitch. And present a old SRS from when they did not use Volere didn"t really help much.. A example from the last year would have been better. » - The start time of the course, if 10 is better» - Feedback of individual assignments should come earlier. It"s not necessary to give feedback on good stuff just give comments which requirements are bad and why and what should be improved. Even though there was a lot to read when grading the assignments this would have helped me not just to understand what i am doing wrong but where and why i did so...» - Academic results in the subject is interesting. But going through every content of a table is not! Too much focus on this in the end of the course.» - The grading speed of the assignments. The deadline of assignment 3.» - If possible move the start of the third assignment towards the beginning of the study period to avoid that learning for the exam overlaps with work on the third assignment. The first assignment could be kept shorter because in the third assignment functional requirments have to be written as well. I was disappointed of the guest lecture because I expected more infomration about requirements engineering in practice. » - Quicker feedback for each assignment.» - There were huge differences in the quality of the tutors. Paryah gave exemplary feedback, I really learned a lot just by reading the feedback that other people had gotten from her. Amir, on the other hand gave incomplete, ambiguous and vague feedback. I did not learn anything from his feedback. This made me very frustrated. Another thing, perhaps the most important, is the lack of respect that I felt from Emil and in some of the documents. Emil would use terms like "retards" and would call things "stupid" and would roll his eyes when students asked things that he didn"t appreciate. I guess he was doing some of this unconsciously, and some of it to create what he thought was a "fun" atmosphere. It didn"t work. The biggest lack of respect was exposed in the assigment 3-document. That last few paragraphs about "welcome to sweden, here we do things [blablabla]" is completely atrocious. It is borderline racist, completely devoid of respect and I never want to read stuff like that ever again in a Chalmers assignment. Shame on the authors of that.» - The work overload » - The group assignment load is High plus to enhance the procedure of selecting group members.» - Smaller weekly assignments with good and precise feedback.» - The number of students in a group project is too large. Maybe the size of the report should be reduce, so it could be handle by just 2 group members. » - The feedback for the assignments was always late. As a result you had to move on the next step based on the feedback that you never had. The workload for the group assignments is not equally splitted. There were groups with 5 and groups with 4 people. As are result the latter had to do more. If there are also problems with the group mates then 2 or 3 people have to do the work for 5.» - Group assignment should begin earlier.» - Nothing» - It would be good to add mandatory group contracts to make shure everyone contributes in their group.» - Skip the competition and emphasis collaboration which in the will give higher quality.» - Assignment 3 may be started earlier. Since Software Engineering students will most likely have Project Management course in parallel (which has a very high workload), it might might help to have a little more time. Feedback for the first and second assignments were given by two teachers and they differed considerably: one was a lot more detailed. I don"t think that"s fair, so maybe you could have some kind of the template for feedback.» - The third assignment should be presented earlier and the students should be given the chance to study the Volere template in advance. Now the template was released as the students" were hip-deep in assignments in other courses, and things were generally poor.» - Change/remove hand-ins, especially feedback was poor» 17. Additional comments- Explain more about busniessusecases and how to derive requirments from them»- They really need to redo the whole practical part of this course. As it is now, it kills the course completely. Proposal: Start with the project on day one. Then, plan the theoretical part so that it matches how a real life RE project (and their project) would be conducted. That would make the project and course more realistic and could possibly help people understanding each part better. When handing out assignments, think quality instead of quantity (!). Give out smaller exercises and use workshops to discuss the assignments. That way it gets easier for both parties. The students needs, and wants, feedback from you. Use us as TAs if you need more TAs for workshops etc (!).» - Keep up the good work!» - N/A» - The course content was excellent and i personally recommend the course » - I really liked the course and I learnt a lot. I hope you will continue like this the next years as well.» - A general problem so far on the master programme of Software Engineering has been the group works. Since the programme has so many group works, there should definetly be some better way to handle this because there have been so many problems. I have had 4 different group works with different groups so far and in _every_ group one or more students have failed to take responsibility, show up on time, show up at all which have resulted in a high workload for the other members of the group and a very bad working environment since people will get irritated and so on. What you should have is some introductory lesson(s) in how a group assigment works. In those lessons you should state to the students what is expected of them in a group. For example, take responsibility for the work, show up on time, if you are sick contact your members of the group, contribute with work, do not expect anyone else to do the work for you etc. These things might seem clear to many but they are NOT clear to many at this master programme and something needs to be done about it. Also the lesson(s) could describe how you organize your group work and talk about setting up group contracts. As for now, the students that recognize these problems are left out to solve the issues on their own. I have done this so far but I do not know how much longer I can take it because it is taking so much time. I think that Software Engineering is a very interesting subject and I have been looking forward to starting this masters programme for a long time but I am seriously considering if really I have made the right choice. This is a very critical issue and needs to be taken care of, otherwise innocent students will suffer even more. I am very interested in how yoy look at this, please contact me at grunden.johan@gmail.com and explain to me what is going to be done to solve this matter.» - The course organizers should have a deep and serious thinking session regarding whether releasing the third assigment & the Volere Template only when work is to commence is useful and reasonable. If there are no measurable significant gains to releasing it late, you should really release the template in the first week and tell students "Later in this course you have to make a SRS based on this template, study it well or disaster will befall you". I personally can not see any reasons not to release the template early, please think this through really, really carefully - it was bloody hell working with the SRS and the last bits of the Project Management cases at the same time. Please, please, please, PLEASE think this through. » Genomsnitt totalt för detta stycke: 3.8 Beräknat jämförelseindex: 0.7
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