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MPTSE VT-12 Life cycle assessment, VTM 081

Status: Avslutad
Öppen för svar: 2012-05-22 - 2012-08-17
Antal svar: 27
Procent av deltagarna som svarat: 40%
Kontaktperson: Rickard Ambring»

Your own effort

1. How many hours per week did you spend on this course?

We mean total time, that is, it comprises the time you spent in class and the time you spent on your own work. Try to estimate the average time over the entire study period.

27 svarande

At most 15 hours/week»3 11%
Around 20 hours/week»11 40%
Around 25 hours/week»6 22%
Around 30 hours/week»7 25%
At least 35 hours/week»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 2.62

- most of the working time related to project work» (Around 20 hours/week)

2. How large part of the teaching offered did you attend?

27 svarande

0%»2 7%
25%»7 25%
50%»3 11%
75%»12 44%
100%»3 11%

Genomsnitt: 3.25

- around 10%» (0%)
- Felt like it were to no use.» (25%)
- Because of lecture un another course as well.» (25%)
- lecturers simply copy pictures and explanations from textbooks. Then what"s the difference between go to lectures and read book at home?» (50%)

Goals and goal fulfilment

The course syllabus states the course goals in terms of learning outcomes, i.e., knowledge, skills and attitudes to be acquired by the student during the course.

3. How understandable are the course goals?

27 svarande

I have not seen/read the goals»5 18%
The goals are difficult to understand»3 11%
The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer»11 40%
The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn»8 29%

Genomsnitt: 2.81

- They are quite broad» (The goals are difficult to understand)

4. Are the goals reasonable considering your background and the number of credits?

Answer this this question and the succeeding one, only if you do know the course goals.

23 svarande

No, the goals are set too low»3 13%
Yes, the goals seem reasonable»20 86%
No, the goals are set too high»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.86

- Have not seen the goals.» (?)
- I had a background in LCA.» (No, the goals are set too low)

5. Did the examination assess whether you have reached the goals?

25 svarande

No, not at all»0 0%
To some extent»6 24%
Yes, definitely»10 40%
I don"t know/have not been examined yet»9 36%

Genomsnitt: 3.12

- Think that a few of the questions was a bit tricky to understand what it was asked for. » (?)
- It was good that many aspects of the course were covered.» (Yes, definitely)

6. What do you think about the content and scope of the course? Do you think that any sections could be removed or do you have any suggestions about sections that could be added?

- lectures should be improved!!! Less people in one project group!! Need longer project supervision time for each of the groups! Evaluation criteria of project reports and presentations should be clearly stated and firmly followed!!»
- The openLCA could be done better: no lecture, but more like an exercise. »
- Skip the project.»
- Remove unrelevant things in project.»
- Some of the guest lectures were useful, espessially the on from SKF which was a big joke. I did not learn anything, he only talked about SKF.»
- I am really disapointed about the project grade. During the first two feedbacks it sounded as if the work was really good but durin the last feedback the grade was lower than what we expected. I have heard from many groups that they were chocked about the grade. It seemed like the communication was not good between the supervisors and the students. Because most often you can judge appromimately which grade you will get. But to expect a 4/5 and then get a return is really strange I think and then something is not okey. It is strange and seems like the first two reviews were not done correctly if you tell the students that everything is good and that they should strive for a higher grade and then give them a return and grade 3.»
- I would like to learn more about LCA today, and not how it started in the 90s and before. What are the difficulties, weaknesses, strengths with LCA? What alternatives are there? Is it possible to make an LCA trustworthy at all?»
- As of me it is ok»

7. How did you find the difficulty level of the course in relation to your background?

26 svarande

To easy»5 19%
Suitable»21 80%
Too difficult»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.8

- But background in LCA:» (To easy)
- Felt like no skills was needed. » (To easy)
- The course could probably be made much more interesting with some examples from real life. The whole course was only repetition of some really basic principles.» (To easy)
- I would have liked to get more detailed information on the different parts of an LCA.» (Suitable)
- Too much to read. The slides should be just in english and not include swedish words.» (Suitable)
- The course wasn"t hard but the project took a ton of time.» (Suitable)

Teaching and course administration

8. To what extent has the teaching been of help for your learning?

27 svarande

Small extent»16 59%
Some extent»9 33%
Large extent»2 7%
Great extent»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.48

- The lectures felt that they were quite close to the book. I would have liked them to compliment each other, now the lectures felt like a short variant of the chapters in the books.» (Small extent)
- lecturers simply copy pictures and explanations from textbooks. Then what"s the difference between go to lectures and read book at home? Moreover, the lecturers sometimes fail to give feedback to the exercises we are doing during the lectures.» (Small extent)
- The teaching about the method was not very inspiring, it was more interesting to just read the book. Tip: Maybe explain the methodology at examples from your own experience (practical examples)» (Small extent)
- Really boring teachers/assistents, or at least the lectures where really boring and hard to take in.» (Small extent)
- Very difficult to feel that the subject is interesting, then it is hard to focus to learn. As the teachers did not really know the subjects (had to look in book), then it is also feels like "why should I know about it if the teacher don"t?"» (Small extent)
- Think that a lot of the lecture note haven"t been to any help at all when I was looking at the powerpoint before the exam. They are just stuff taken from the book and are tables and numbers.» (Small extent)
- The time I spent in the lectures was mainly wasted time. The content of almost all lectures was just copied and pasted from the "LCA bible" and the actual teacher did not put a lot of effort in developing their own contents, structures and ways of teaching. Finally, the descriptions in the book were much better than in the lectures as in some lectures the teachers couldn"t even really explain figures copied from the book.» (Small extent)
- Most of what I"ve learned has been either through the project or through reading the book» (Small extent)

9. Did you find the lectures and exercises well-structured and easy to follow?


- lecture on Food sector is the best! Learned quite a lot from it!»
- There was no structucal problem during the lectures as everything was just copied according to the content list.»
- The lecture notes were though not that good in all cases. It was hard to follow them sometimes.»
- I dont remember the names on the teachers. But most of them were ok.»
- I didn"t attend so many of them so it is hard to say.»

Maria Ljunggren Söderman
22 svarande

Yes»12 54%
Somewhat»7 31%
No»3 13%

Genomsnitt: 1.59

Birgit Brunklaus
21 svarande

Yes»8 38%
Somewhat»7 33%
No»6 28%

Genomsnitt: 1.9

Anne-Marie Tillman
22 svarande

Yes»7 31%
Somewhat»10 45%
No»5 22%

Genomsnitt: 1.9

Johan Tivander
20 svarande

Yes»8 40%
Somewhat»9 45%
No»3 15%

Genomsnitt: 1.75

Emma Rex
20 svarande

Yes»10 50%
Somewhat»7 35%
No»3 15%

Genomsnitt: 1.65

Andreas Cirot
20 svarande

Yes»8 40%
Somewhat»8 40%
No»4 20%

Genomsnitt: 1.8

Christel Cederberg
20 svarande

Yes»12 60%
Somewhat»4 20%
No»4 20%

Genomsnitt: 1.6

Birger Löfgren
19 svarande

Yes»10 52%
Somewhat»5 26%
No»4 21%

Genomsnitt: 1.68

10. Were the smaller exercises in the course instructive?


- Maybe they could give more if they were prepared by the students before the lecture and then discussed in small groups.»
- the exercises themselves are good. The the problem is the lecturers sometimes fail to give feedback on them!! Then what can we learn from these exercises if we don"t know right or wrong?? »
- The exercises should not be done in the class room, but in smaller groups.»
- What is beginner exercise? Software exercise was very unnecessary, still do not know what it was good for.»
- Didn"t see any point of doing the computer excercise. Would have been enought to mention that you can use software and that can look like this ... etc»
- It was a too easy level on those. The software I didn"t attend, and Ididn"t hear any good about it either.»

Goal definition exercise
25 svarande

Yes»9 36%
Somewhat»11 44%
No»5 20%

Genomsnitt: 1.84

22 svarande

Yes»10 45%
Somewhat»7 31%
No»5 22%

Genomsnitt: 1.77

Software exercise
23 svarande

Yes»6 26%
Somewhat»9 39%
No»8 34%

Genomsnitt: 2.08

Reading exercise
24 svarande

Yes»7 29%
Somewhat»14 58%
No»3 12%

Genomsnitt: 1.83

11. The project


- My project just contained two accounting LCAs and no recycling. I would have liked to have a somewhat more complicated process to learn more.»
- Feed-back definitely NOT enough!! Less people in one group!!!!»
- 5 students is just too much as the task is difficult to divide in seperate parts due to the interrelatedness. So some people lost the overview and in the end it was only 2 students knowing the whole picture. »
- We had christin liptow as supervisor, and honestly i can say no good about her in that position. It felt like she didn"t really have a good view of what to do and how, it was really hard for her to answer what we should do to proceed. And most angry am i of how she handled our last hand-in, the final report. We had one parameter that wasn"t correct that affected the whole results. And because of that she wanted us to find the mistake and rewrite practically everything with start from the results. I find this really bizarre. We have made a perfectly fine results, discussion etc. based on the results we got, so i cannot find it really necessary that we have to do ALL of this once again, afterwards, when we have understood what shall be done and why (since this is a course and not in real life!). This only takes alot of important time from us. I"m really pissed out about this, i find it sooo bizarre! Let us give you the new results and be happy for god"s sake!»
- Too many in one project and there should be an individual assessment form to fill in that is anonymus, because it worked well between 3 of 4 in the group. It was also difficult to divide the work between 4, 3 better. The support of the supervisor was not good according to me, it was impossible to be finish in time during the meetings and this was a lot because of the supervisor and we did not even got all of our questions answered. We had to ask about one thing 4 times and still we did not get it right in the final report, then there is something that has to be investigated. It also took 1 month to answer an e-mail and the other two were not even answered. The time it took to do the calculations was more than necessary, we did not learn more because we had to do more calculations»
- Too many people in the group. But it was good that the group was created by the teachers»
- The excercises was very time consuming. The hand-in was enough, the feed-back was on other hand nonexistent. It was to much to be four people, maybe three would have been better.»
- The question for extra time in addition to the sceduled hours feels like a joke. Doing an LCA study in this time span with the main work pressed into three weeks (after the goal and scope definition hand-ins) definitely needs more time. But I think that students expected it to be like this so that this it not to critisize. I found it unfair that there were groups with four members as this reduced the personal work load much.»
- I felt there could have been more feedback from the supervisor. During the sessions the supervisor said everything looed good with our report but the grade for was a three and I think the resport was better than that. The supervisor pointed only to minor things which should not lower the grade so much. I don"t think the supervisor had even read the report before the feedback sessions which is not acceptable!»
- I think it"s preposterous that each group had THREE feedback sessions and almost all of the groups got corrections to do after the final hand-in. It seems to me like the project supervisors do a really poor job at giving feedback if almost all groups fail in such ways that corrections are needed. It shouldn"t take 17 feedback sessions to get it good enough to at least pass as a 3. Also there should be a lot better guidelines for what you are supposed to do for all of the hand-ins. And there should be more workload before hand-in 2, so less groups fall into the trap of doing 90% of the work in the last week.»
- I think corrections after final submission would have been avoided if the supervisors had told the groups what exactly they needed for each hand-in and what was required to pass.»
- The project was almost too big, and it was hard to get a grip of the whole report. I should have been good if we could see an realy good example of an LCA report, so we could know at what level we should put our effort. It was hard to understand what the supervisors was expecting from us. »
- We could not get enough feedback of each hand-in from supervisor. All of our project mates did well.»
- 4 people is too much. 2 people, max 3 would be good. Now we had one who worked too much, and one who hardly worked att all. I spent all my time on this project and the other course I took, so I did"t had time to go to the lectures.»
- Of course...We are mature enough to choose our own teams (according to our common background) . Is so annoying to work with bachelor students or some other backgrounds that have no idea about the subject and you have to do all the work by yourself. »
- Very big work to do, hard to find time to srudy for exam»
- Misunderstanding in the communication with the superviser that gave positive comments until the end, to finally judge the report insufficient. This communication could get better.»

Did you learn much?
25 svarande

Yes»12 48%
Somewhat»10 40%
No»3 12%

Genomsnitt: 1.64

Were there enough hand-ins and adequate feed-back?
25 svarande

Yes»9 36%
Somewhat»5 20%
No»11 44%

Genomsnitt: 2.08

Did you receive sufficient support from supervisors?
25 svarande

Yes»13 52%
Somewhat»5 20%
No»7 28%

Genomsnitt: 1.76

Did the co-operation within the group work?
25 svarande

Yes»14 56%
Somewhat»9 36%
No»2 8%

Genomsnitt: 1.52

Did you need extra time in addition to the scheduled hours for your course?
25 svarande

Yes»20 80%
Somewhat»2 8%
No»3 12%

Genomsnitt: 1.32

Did you think that the number of students was well adjusted to the task?
25 svarande

Yes»6 24%
Somewhat»9 36%
No»10 40%

Genomsnitt: 2.16

12. To what extent has the course literature and other material been of help for your learning?

27 svarande

Small extent»0 0%
Some extent»6 22%
Large extent»15 55%
Great extent»6 22%

Genomsnitt: 3

- That"s where I"ve learned most of the course from.» (Great extent)
- By reading the book and looking at old exams, there was no problems doing the exam, even if I hadn"t been to the lectures. It would, however been nice with some complementary reading from other sources.» (Great extent)

13. How well did the course administration, web page, handouts etc work?

27 svarande

Very badly»1 3%
Rather badly»6 22%
Rather well»17 62%
Very well»3 11%

Genomsnitt: 2.81

- The Handout page is missing in any kind of structure. Some kind of sorting would be nice (perhaps after lecture numbers or dates)» (Very badly)
- It was a bit messy. Would have been better to have a map for each thing, one fore lecture, one for project, one for all exams etc it would have been easier to find what you were looking for without scroll through the whole list.» (Rather badly)
- It was hard to find the lectures afterwards, since they didn"t have a number. Next year: just number them in order, that will be much easier for people to follow.» (Rather badly)
- The handout of the lectures went really well =)» (Rather well)
- I heard there was some discussion concerning old exams. But as the final exam was different from the ones before it seems like a solution could be found...» (Rather well)

14. What did you think about the Hitch Hiker"s Guide to LCA?

27 svarande

Excellent»6 22%
Good»11 40%
Ok»8 29%
Bad»2 7%

Genomsnitt: 2.22

- It contained everything needed for the exam but sometimes the important content is difficult to grasp as the writing style sometimes remind me on a novel.» (Good)
- Is an ok book, but it would have been enough with better slides for the lectures and the book would not be needed. Which will save the students a lot of money.» (Ok)
- They don"t go into as much detail about certain things as I would have liked. But overall it gives you a good idea about the course content.» (Ok)
- Too basic. I new that LCA is only amethod, but I thought there was more to it than that.» (Ok)
- Useful informations are rare (too much blah blah), lot things are doubled. really expansive » (Bad)

15. Do you feel capable to conduct an LCA on a product that you have good technical knowledge about?

27 svarande

Yes»7 25%
Yes, with some additional studies»19 70%
No»1 3%

Genomsnitt: 1.77

- Kind of hard to say after you"ve only done one LCA, which didn"t include all of the data gathering that a real LCA would require.» (Yes, with some additional studies)
- I would have liked to feel more secure on how to do reasoning about assumptions in different contexts. I don"t like the attitude that everything is ok, as long as you explain your assumptions - I don"t think that is how it works in real life. » (Yes, with some additional studies)

Study climate

16. How were the opportunities for asking questions and getting help?

27 svarande

Very poor»2 7%
Rather poor»4 14%
Rather good»13 48%
Very good»5 18%
I did not seek help»3 11%

Genomsnitt: 3.11

- When asking the examinator it went well and it was fairly ok to the office of the supervisor, but the questions were not really answered. The supervisor did not answer an e-mail in one month and the other two were not even answered!» (Very poor)
- Very good for our project supervisor.» (Very good)

17. How well has cooperation between you and your fellow students worked?

27 svarande

Very poorly»1 3%
Rather poorly»2 7%
Rather well»13 48%
Very well»11 40%
I did not seek cooperation»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 3.25

- It didn"t work very well to be that many people in a group. And it was also obvious from the start that not all people were equally ambitious about the project. Some people never seemed to be able to meet up and work on the project so especially in the beginning just 1 or 2 people did all of the work. If the project is gonna work better then there needs to be more groups with less people in it. Also, the additional task (the dominance analysis) for the groups who were five people didn"t seem quite fair. The one extra person did not make the project go faster than if you were four people. So it was just an extra work load for everyone» (Very poorly)

18. How was the course workload?

26 svarande

Too low»0 0%
Low»1 3%
Adequate»13 50%
High»12 46%
Too high»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 3.42

- Since one of the group members for the project dropped the course (we are just three people) and the grading requirements are still the same.» (High)
- Because of the project. Otherwise it was fine.» (High)
- We spend a lot of time for the project.» (High)

19. How was the total workload this study period?

25 svarande

Too low»0 0%
Low»0 0%
Adequate»12 48%
High»9 36%
Too high»4 16%

Genomsnitt: 3.68

- It was high since I had to study other things in parallell with this course.» (High)
- I had a stomach ache almost every day this period because of the workload» (Too high)

Summarizing questions

20. What is your general impression of the course?

27 svarande

Poor»7 25%
Fair»5 18%
Adequate»10 37%
Good»5 18%
Excellent»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 2.48 (bidrar till totalt genomsnitt/jämförelseindex)

- Needs to be revised.» (Poor)
- The project and confusion around what you were supposed to do before all of the hand-ins and the fact that almost everyone got corrections are some serious drawbacks to me. But the lectures overall was quite good I think. Especially Maria"s.» (Poor)
- Poor-Fair. Not too bad, but nothing I would recommend to someone else, unfortunately. This should be master level.» (Poor)

21. What should definitely be preserved to next year?

- lecture about food sector!! Lecture about SKF»
- Doing a project. The feed-back on the projects.»
- project but in smaller scale»
- The exercises and the project»
- I think the lectures are good as they are. Most of the exercises were good also, except for one in particular in the beginning of the course about functional units.»
- The exercises in the book should be compulsory work to hand-in and perhaps lessen the project workload.»
- Good that the deadline for the report is some weeks before the date of the exam, keep it so!»
- Guest lectures were interesting. Group project is good to deepen the knowledge about LCA.»
- Projects»
- Guest Lectures, Project»
- The project, maybe in a smaler compact format»
- the project»

22. What should definitely be changed to next year?

- The lectures could be less dependent on the book.»
- Lectures should be improved ( not simply copy everything from the text book) project need to be improved!! »
- Smaller project groups (2-3 persons). Let people chose their own groups, so people are on the same level. Give more experienced students the possibility to form their own groups and use a software tool during the project. What the course really needs are more inspiring and enthusiastic lectures. »
- Assistants!(some that know about the field) Smaller groups. And by the way the computer exercise we did was really crappy, i cannot find a good reason for spending 2 hours there. If someone in the future wants us to work with that they will have to teach us everything again anyway, because in two hours like that you cannot learn anything!»
- The size of the project and how it is graded. If the whole class gets a return then there is something that is clearly wrong. Also if only one got the grade 5! Remove the questions that has to be answered. The way of working of the supervisors. »
- More influence of the projekt grade to the end grade.»
- I would incite the teachers to develop their own lectures and not just to copy and past from the book and then read it out loud in front of the class.»
- The projects! Smaller groups and a LOT clearer message about what to do before all of the hand-ins and what to include to avoid having to do corrections after the exams.»
- The supervisors should give good constructive criticism and state what should be included.»
- Maybe you can have more intensive lectures the first weeks, and then more time for projectwork. »
- The number of people in each group should be 3~4. 5 is too much. The time for the supervision was not enough. We wanted to have more feedbacks.»
- More relevant literature, less focus on the project, more relevant discussions.»
- Consulting time should be increased. And i think the guidance from supervisors in project can be made much more helpful. »
- The grading: Is annoying to do a good job on the project and get a 5 on the exam and still get a 4 just because you got a 4 in the project. The feedback we got on the reasons to get a 4 were ALL things that the examiner failed to see and I pointed them out on the report...eventhough ALL of the observation were there , we didn"t got the 5 .... For some mystical reason. »
- The workload of the project»
- less time of the project spent on correcting excel calculations,(depends on the tasks and how the projects are conducted) more time to evaluate results.»

23. Additional comments

- I would never have taken this course again if i would have the choice.»
Genomsnitt totalt för detta stycke: 2.48

Genomsnitt totalt för alla frågor: 2.48
Beräknat jämförelseindex: 0.37

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