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Production Project Course pre-study, IAR058

Status: Avslutad
Öppen för svar: 2012-05-18 - 2012-06-29
Antal svar: 22
Procent av deltagarna som svarat: 62%
Kontaktperson: Sandra Mattsson»
Utbildningsprogram som genomför enkäten: Chalmers: masterskurs
Utbildningsprogram studenten tillhör: Maskinteknik 300 hp

Your answers are very valuable for us!

With the evaluation you help us to increase the quality and status of our master.

The questionnaire will take about 30 min to finnish and is divided into three parts: the course in general, the project and the first year of the master.

Your answer is anonymous but you computer"s ip adress will be saved to prevent abuse.

-- Your own effort --

1. Approximately how many hours per week did you work with the course?

Estimate the total time, including both teaching activities and your own studies. Try
to estimate the average for the whole study period.

22 svarande

At most 10 hours»1 4%
About 15 hours»6 27%
About 20 hours»9 40%
About 25 hours»4 18%
About 30 hours»2 9%
At least 35 hours»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 3

2. How much of the teaching offered did you attend?

22 svarande

0%»1 4%
25&»3 13%
50%»6 27%
75%»5 22%
100%»7 31%

Genomsnitt: 3.63

- Lectures didn"t seem totally relevant, project possible to carry out without the lectures.» (25&)
- A lot of days spent with the project made it impossible to attend all lectures etc» (50%)

-- Goals and fulfillment --

3. How understandable are the course goals?

Consider Learning Outcome

22 svarande

I have not seen/read the goals»2 9%
The goals are difficult to understand»4 18%
The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer»12 54%
The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn»4 18%

Genomsnitt: 2.81

- The "matrix" concerning learning outcomes and activities Bertil showed was not very clear.» (The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer)
- what the report should include and how the lips model can be used and assessed» (The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer)
- Purpose seems very general» (The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer)

4. Are the course goals reasonable considering the number of credits?

21 svarande

Yes I think so»16 76%
Hesitant»5 23%
No»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.23

5. Did the examination (deliverables + seminars) assess whether you have reached the goals?

21 svarande

No, not at all»1 4%
To some extent»14 66%
Yes, definitely»4 19%
I don"t know/have not been examined yet»2 9%

Genomsnitt: 2.33

- could be more challanges» (To some extent)
- the requirement specification should be put in the grade as well » (To some extent)
- The project work itself - yes. The literature seminar - no. not really related.» (To some extent)

-- Deliverables and seminars --

6. What did you think about using the LIPS model for deliverables

- Good model but did not quite suit our case»
- Not very applicable to our project, but it I think it would be good to use within a company for example»
- silly, it is for product developement project, not for a planning report. A better model could be chosen. »
- Not useful or educational»
- not perfect suitable for our kind of project, but good to have a frame to follow. maybe one could skip some of the deliverbles.»
- Ok, but it was sometimes not applicable»
- it was instresting to learn the model, we had to adapt it a bit to our project»
- The lips documents took a lot of time. It is a quite general method so as long as you know how to adapt your own project to the method, it works fine!»
- Some deliverables are repeatable. Some deliverables need to be give some explain during the lecture. The others are good.»
- Ok»
- LIPS model is quite limited and once you stuck on it you can"t think outside the box. I think it could be given as a guide but be clear for students that they do not have to follow each parts of it.»
- Good with information about each subject but didn"t fit the project that the group did. It needed to be restructered in order to fit. Older versions of project models during the time at Chalmers was used were better to follow but information in the LIPS model about each subject e.g. time plan, time reports etc. was great. »
- It is good with a structured way of working, but sometimes the deliverables actually did not help the project. It was from time to time more focus on writing text under the headlines in the templates than thinking about what was needed for the projects progress. Also I think that LIPS did not promote us to search for and use theories. There is no "theory chapter" as it usually is in an academic report. All in all it was good using a project model, but LIPS is not very good for these kinds of projects.»
- It was not rly applicable on our project and we had to change quite much, but it was good to have something to start work from.»
- It"s good to have some structure.»
- Good to use a model but maybe not Lips for other porjects than product development»
- where not in time with the project and has to be flexible I like the milestone thinking though »
- Should NOT be used another time. It rather made things complicated then helping. Seems not to fit our type of project. Many chapters just had to be left out, the rest adapted. By just sticking to the Lips Model, you block creativity, slow the progress and get a bad outcome. It is way better to just have general guidelines and then let the groups work in their own way. Some deliverables are ok, but with the Lips deliverables we sometimes had no idea how to put them...»

7. What did you think about the course book the Reflective Practitioner by Donald Schön

- A bit hard to read and not so distinct in its outcome.»
- ok»
- outdated, an important subject but no. No. That is not a good way to learn about it. »
- Horrible. Very difficult to understand. »
- quite hard to read and understand, but the overall impression was quite good. »
- it was a hard book to read, but it was intresting»
- i liked this part, it got me thinking in a new way!!!»
- Interesting!»
- It is difficult to read.»
- I did not like it very much. It was too old fashioned and did not feel adapted to a technical project course.»
- Svårläst och inte lika givande»
- I think a summary of this book as a compulsory lecture and a seminary afterwards could save much more time for students.»
- Good book with good information. Discussion class made the book even clearer and gave good advices for future work. »
- Interesting subject, but there must be newer literature about the same thing? It is a very long book for saying not very much.»
- It was hard to read and a bit to long. And I think it was bad decision that we were supposed to read the whole book at once, it should instead be devided perhaps that we start with 1/3 of the book, have a seminar so we can see what is expected of us and then have the rest of the book on another seminar.»
- Quite much "up in the clouds". A lot of repetition. Too expensive for it"s content.»
- Ok»
- Intresting in a way but if there are any more uppdated litterature then that would be nice»
- It is not useful. Just a lot of text with not so much content. Didn"t give any practical knowledge to keep in mind. Many things were pretty natural.»

8. To what extent did the literature seminar contribute for at better understanding of engineering problem solving

22 svarande

Not at all»5 22%
Acceptable»2 9%
To some extent»12 54%
Yes very much»3 13%

Genomsnitt: 2.59

- Did not attend, but wrote reflection which I thought gave me a lot. Could meaybe be good to let everyone write a reflection before the seminar» (Not at all)
- More about the process of learning.» (Not at all)
- Would be better if all answered the questions writtenly for better involvement.» (Acceptable)
- I dont know if the seminar increased my understanding of engineering problem solving, everyone just repeated what I had already read in the book.» (Acceptable)
- seminary idea is very useful and there should be more opportunities for students to discuss with each other. Just try to choose more up-to-date books and topics.» (To some extent)
- It was more of an description of how problem solving works. It doesn"t help in the problem solving itself. But gave some better understanding of that we all reflect differently.» (To some extent)
- The seminar was very good. 10 times better than the book.» (Yes very much)

9. To what extent did the presentation seminar contribute in giving you good feedback for you planning report

21 svarande

Not at all»2 9%
Acceptable»3 14%
To some extent»10 47%
Very much»6 28%

Genomsnitt: 2.95

- Our opponents did not have much to say. Most of the feedback came from our supervisor.» (Acceptable)
- Good to have some comments. But more useful was the feedback of the tutor.» (To some extent)
- The organization with opponent groups is very helpful.» (Very much)
- Oppositions were great with good suggestions on how to make the planning report even better. » (Very much)
- This was awesome.» (Very much)

-- Teaching and course administration --

10. To what extent has the teaching been of help for your learning?

Think about the types of lectures you had. Please give comments regarding their relevance for the course

22 svarande

Small extent»8 36%
Some extent»12 54%
Large extent»2 9%
Great extent»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.72

- Only the lecture of Mats was really useful, giving another perspective: that LIPS is not that suitable for us and that we have to adapt it. The other lectures did not give me much. Especially Bertil"s lectures need pedagogical adaption - powerpoint and social interaction.» (Small extent)
- I used my previous experiences for this project. The project itself gave me new experiences but I don"t think that lectures helped me to do a better project. Some of lectures were still quite interesting, especially the one about sustainability.» (Some extent)
- Presentation technique is of course important, but after 4 years at chalmers, giving presentations every now and then, it feels like we know how to do it. About the sustainability lecture: The lecturer begins the lecture by saying something like "bearing in mind the areas of your projects, this lecture might not be that relevant for you, but we will go on anyway!". That sentence did not make me more interested. And also, the lecture is "justified" by an explanation that in every course at chalmers, sustainability must be considered. One lecture I liked was the one about writing the report. That was the first time I understood that we did not have to follow LIPS as much as we did.» (Some extent)
- It feels like the guest seminar, the guy from U.S that lived in Denmark had some interesting thoughts but it was not rly applicable in our projects, it felt more like curiosities. » (Some extent)
- Team dynamics was good.» (Some extent)

11. To what extent has the course literature and other course material been of help for your learning?

22 svarande

Small extent»7 31%
Some extent»11 50%
Large extent»4 18%
Great extent»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.86

- The only help I had from the course literature was from the LIPS book when I wanted to see what we were meant to write about.» (Small extent)
- As said - not really suitable. most of the project work made out of experience.» (Small extent)

12. How well did the course administration, Ping pong, handouts etc work?

22 svarande

Poor»0 0%
Fair»3 13%
Acceptable»5 22%
Good»11 50%
Excellent»3 13%

Genomsnitt: 3.63

- Send the pim messages as e-mail as well, easy to miss the information beacuse we dont wisit pingpong every day» (Acceptable)
- Could be excellent if the information were sent by mail aswell. Sometimes the students forgets to visit pingpong for several days which makes it good to get the information via mail which is viewed everyday. » (Good)

13. Evaluation of cource team and lectures


- I did not like that Bertil reprimanded the attending students because he felt that the attendance was low. This disappointment was really misdirected onto the attending students. Either make the lectures compulsory or accept that the students are free to skip them. Maybe a given share of the lectures could be compulsory? For example 3 out of 5. Other than that, well done in planning this course! It has been very educative and interesting.»
- Bertil should learn to listen and not interrupt students and other lecturers. He must learn to show appreciation to other kind of opinions then his owns. »
- It is a no-go to openly offend a student personally in the course (Bertil). Seems like a lack of ability to handle criticism. Also the lectures were poor from a pedagogical perspective. (a lot of text on powerpoint - copied from the book - and making students just read)»

Bertil Gustafsson (Examiner & Lecturer)
22 svarande

Excellent»1 4%
Very good»8 36%
Good»6 27%
Poor»5 22%
Very Poor»2 9%
No opinion»0

Genomsnitt: 2.95

Sandra Mattsson (Course Administrator and Lecturer)
22 svarande

Excellent»2 9%
Very good»11 50%
Good»8 36%
Poor»1 4%
Very Poor»0 0%
No opinion»0

Genomsnitt: 2.36

Andrew Jamison (Guest Lectureur)
22 svarande

Excellent»4 23%
Very good»3 17%
Good»6 35%
Poor»2 11%
Very Poor»2 11%
No opinion»5

Genomsnitt: 2.7

Torbjörn Claesson (Guest Lectureur)
22 svarande

Excellent»2 16%
Very good»6 50%
Good»3 25%
Poor»1 8%
Very Poor»0 0%
No opinion»10

Genomsnitt: 2.25

Mats Johansson (Lectureur)
22 svarande

Excellent»3 17%
Very good»7 41%
Good»5 29%
Poor»1 5%
Very Poor»1 5%
No opinion»5

Genomsnitt: 2.41

-- Study climate --

14. How was the opportunities for asking questions and getting help?

22 svarande

Poor»0 0%
Fair»1 4%
Adequate»4 18%
Good»10 45%
Excellent»7 31%

Genomsnitt: 4.04

- Sandra has been very helpful when asking questions. She answers almost directly to e-mails which is excellent!» (Excellent)

15. How has the cooperation been, between you and the other students?

22 svarande

Very bad»0 0%
Rather bad»1 4%
Rather good»3 13%
Very good»18 81%
I have not tried to cooperate»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 3.77

- People having exams from earlier courses are not dedicated enough for a project like this and prioretize wrong.» (Rather bad)

16. How was the total workload during the entire study period?

21 svarande

Too low»0 0%
Low»8 38%
High»10 47%
Too high»3 14%

Genomsnitt: 2.76

- meduim» (?)
- i am missing the option " enough" on the comming questions» (Low)
- Low at the beginning but very high in the end, togehter with the lean course at least» (High)

17. How was the workload of deliverables for this course?

21 svarande

Too low»0 0%
Low»10 47%
High»11 52%
Too high»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 2.52

- It was not high or low» (Low)
- useless for our project, » (High)
- This course is actually not difficult but there were too much deliveries which only took time instead of teaching new things. » (High)
- Ok» (High)

18. How was the workload for the Reflective Practitioner seminar

22 svarande

Too low»0 0%
Low»5 22%
High»12 54%
Too high»5 22%

Genomsnitt: 3

- Somewhat medium» (Low)
- accepteble» (Low)
- extremely challenging to read, it was difficult to understand at times as it is old fashioned language, and is repeating and repeating all the time. makes me loose focus. » (High)
- Since the book was very boring and difficult to understand it took too much time.» (High)
- High, since I wrote reflection» (High)
- Meduim» (High)
- The book is too complicated» (Too high)

19. How was the workload for the Project Planning Report seminar

22 svarande

Too low»1 4%
Low»7 31%
High»14 63%
Too high»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 2.59

- At that time, the subject was kind of clear and a presentation is alomst natural talking about it. like it should be when a project is that big. » (Low)
- It was not high or low» (Low)
- But in a good way!» (High)

-- The Project --

This part will cover more in detail the project work

20. To what extent did the course introduction give you enough information about the project in general

22 svarande

Not at all»3 13%
Acceptable»10 45%
To some extent»9 40%
Very much»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 2.27

- Not about our specific project.» (Not at all)
- To really understand the project, you have to go to the company anyway.» (Acceptable)
- Unclear whats project and whats prestudy, and unclear how to use som templates» (To some extent)

21. How did you experience the formation of the project group

Both groups and type of project

22 svarande

Not very good»2 9%
Acceptable»5 22%
Good»13 59%
Very good»2 9%

Genomsnitt: 2.68

- It could be better. A suggestion is to make the formation via pingpong where everybody fills in choise 1,2,3 and afterwards let the lecturer to decide the group formation. Much easier than doing this step during a lecture which always takes long time. » (Acceptable)
- Maybe it is better that everyone gets information about the projects some week before the course starts so that it is easier to choose?» (Acceptable)

22. How was your interaction with your company and contact person

You must type the name of the company and contact person

22 svarande

Not very good»3 13%
Acceptable»3 13%
Good»5 22%
Very good»11 50%

Genomsnitt: 3.09

- Very hard to get a meeting. A meeting could have been pre-booked during schedueled time.» (Not very good)
- Granbom, Volvo Trucks» (Good)
- VOlvo MT, Johan Ericsson, there were no need for that intensive contact.» (Good)

23. How was your interaction with your academic supervisor


- Was really good but could be excellent if he had more time for us to plan the meetings etc. E.g. read through the planning report before the meeting. »

Bertil Gustafsson
18 svarande

Excellent»1 16%
Very good»2 33%
Good»3 50%
Poor»0 0%
Very Poor»0 0%
No opinion»12

Genomsnitt: 2.33

Björn Johansson
17 svarande

Excellent»3 75%
Very good»1 25%
Good»0 0%
Poor»0 0%
Very Poor»0 0%
No opinion»13

Genomsnitt: 1.25

Anders Skoogh
17 svarande

Excellent»2 100%
Very good»0 0%
Good»0 0%
Poor»0 0%
Very Poor»0 0%
No opinion»15

Genomsnitt: 1

Peter Almström
17 svarande

Excellent»2 40%
Very good»0 0%
Good»3 60%
Poor»0 0%
Very Poor»0 0%
No opinion»12

Genomsnitt: 2.2

Kenneth Hamberg
18 svarande

Excellent»3 60%
Very good»2 40%
Good»0 0%
Poor»0 0%
Very Poor»0 0%
No opinion»13

Genomsnitt: 1.4

Mats Johansson
18 svarande

Excellent»3 60%
Very good»1 20%
Good»1 20%
Poor»0 0%
Very Poor»0 0%
No opinion»13

Genomsnitt: 1.6

Lars Medbo
18 svarande

Excellent»1 25%
Very good»2 50%
Good»1 25%
Poor»0 0%
Very Poor»0 0%
No opinion»14

Genomsnitt: 2

24. To what extent have you reached the project goals you aimed at?

If not at all or acceptable, please write why in the comment field!

22 svarande

Not at all»0 0%
Acceptable»5 22%
To some extent»8 36%
Very much»9 40%

Genomsnitt: 3.18

-- Summarizing questions --

25. What is your general impression of the course?

22 svarande

Worst course ever»0 0%
Fair»5 22%
Good»11 50%
Excellent»6 27%
Best course ever»0 0%
No answer»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 3.04

- it has potential but it is not necessary to have 7,5p pre-study. It is to much "planning report", and not enough project.» (Fair)
- The project was really good - getting some practice and having project work as a team. the course around it affects the impression in a negative way.» (Fair)
- Project part of the course is awesome. The other part is a bit lacking.» (Good)
- Perfect with the industrial connection and that the project has been divided into to courses» (Excellent)
- Reality courses is good for the future.» (Excellent)
- It"s wonderful to get a real case project and to work and learn from that. Great learning experience before the Master thesis job. » (Excellent)

26. What should definitely be preserved to next year?

- The company connection»
- The projects ,-) »
- Seminars»
- Sandra and the PingPong»
- Seminary and if possible more seminaries»
- Real case project work. Reflective practitioner but with more discussions (reading a few chapters, then discussion etc.) Seminars were great and usefull. »
- Of course, the interaction with the companies.»
- We have had a really good communication with over supervisor»
- Having a project. Going out to industry and solve a problem.»

27. What should definitely be changed to next year?

- written seminar handins, Perhaps state that a template could be used but doesn"t need to be used fully out. (Lips)»
- The whole structure. Take away the Production Systems course at Lp1 to have ONE 15hp course during spring that contains both prestudy and project. Like a bachelor thesis.»
- The Reflective Practitioner book. Maybe just read a couple of chapters and instead summarize it as a lecture. »
- Reflective Practitioner »
- the book by Donald Schön»
- LIPS-model didn"t fit everybody"s project so that could be changed. Maybe give a seminar about each subject like time plan, time report etc. but not the model in specific. »
- LIPS. Find another project model, or let the students choose one that fits best for their project.»
- through out the bacholor program we have had information about presenting technique. Its not necessary to have that here... Video taping it though would be good. That is the next stage in development»
- No LIPS! No reflective practitioner! Just some general input in project management, and let the students work on their own pace.»

28. Additional comments

-- The master programme --

This part is concerning your first year of the master and the experiences that you have had so far

29. Have you seen the goals of the Master Programme before?

22 svarande

Yes I think so»14 63%
I dont know»7 31%
No»1 4%

Genomsnitt: 1.4

30. If yes, do you think that the courses you"ve attended meet the programme goals?

15 svarande

Yes I think so»9 60%
To some extent»4 26%
Acceptable»1 6%
No»1 6%

Genomsnitt: 1.6

- A lot of management and general courses. the technical input will come in year 2.» (To some extent)

31. What do you think about the programme structure?

- Take away the Production Systems course at Lp1 to have ONE 15hp course during spring that contains both prestudy and project. Like a bachelor thesis. so have production management in Lp1 and Pewd at lp2.»
- ok»
- Quite few manufacturing courses.»
- Clear enough. Different future job types could be introduced for different directions, »
- Good»
- In some courses such as production system, production management and ergonomics course, there were many repetitions. Otherwise this program fulfilled all my expectations and more.»
- Good. It"s little confusing when the structure shifts more often but with good information it"s not a big problem. »
- I like that you are able to choose different tracks.»
- Overall it is good, though most of the courses are new and quite messy. »
- Good.»
- Ok.»

32. What do you think about the general pedagogic ability of the teachers involved in the programme?

22 svarande

Very poor»0 0%
Poor»3 13%
I dont know»0 0%
Acceptable»7 31%
Good»10 45%
Excellent»2 9%

Genomsnitt: 4.36

- Actually it is difficult to say. Some teachers were excellent others very bad. » (Poor)
- Large variation. Some teachers really good, some rather poor.» (Acceptable)

33. What is you general impression of the programme so far?

22 svarande

Not good»1 4%
Fair»2 9%
Good»10 45%
Very good»9 40%

Genomsnitt: 3.22

- Too easy. I expected to learn a lot more.» (Fair)
- I live for production and my mindset is in line with all teachers. But the courses are at times not as it best and tasks might be to easy but still to heavy due to too much data or reporting. We like diffucult problems and not just "much work" must be a purpose. » (Good)

34. Considering you experience from this programme, would you choose this programme if you could turn back time?

22 svarande

Yes»17 89%
No»2 10%
No opinion»3

Genomsnitt: 1.1

- Definitely!!!» (Yes)

35. What should definitely be preserved?

- The opportunity to chose ones direction or specialization in the area of production engineering.»
- group works.»
- Everything is good. »
- the interaction with companies»
- Having a project. Being able to choose courses.»

36. What should definitely be changed?

- take a look on all of the production courses, the standard has been low on those, i am very satisfied with the management courses i"ve selected»
- Production Systems course = gone. Move all mandatory courses one step earlier. Make teachers to talk to each other, to not overlap so much. Take everyone out for a BBQ at the start of the first semester, a better welcoming could be good. I still dont know who is in my class. At the QOM-master they spended one week(!) having fun before starting to study. »
- Nothing big needs to be changed only small structures in the respective course. »
- the courses are overlapping too much this needs to be check and the sustainability aspect has to be improved. You get the feeling that we have to include it because chalmers say so... Its not a natural part yet. It should be though...»
- Less overlapping between courses. Better course organization in some courses, less "chaos". Include a management course for leadership skills (social, psychological aspects etc.)»

37. Additional comments

- I like it at chalmers, but i am concerned about my education and the future students and reputation. It must be difficult and useful to be of good value. »
- Fun course!»

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