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Linear control system design, SSY285, H11

Status: Avslutad
Öppen för svar: 2011-12-13 - 2012-01-03
Antal svar: 23
Procent av deltagarna som svarat: 32%
Kontaktperson: Madeleine Persson»

Your own effort

1. How many hours per week did you spend on this course?

We mean total time, that is, it comprises the time you spent in class and the time you spent on your own work. Try to estimate the average time over the entire study period.

23 svarande

At most 15 hours/week»2 8%
Around 20 hours/week»12 52%
Around 25 hours/week»9 39%
Around 30 hours/week»0 0%
At least 35 hours/week»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 2.3

- Unfortunately, due to the workload on the course "SSY130 Applied Signal Processing" I could not put in as much time as I would have wanted.» (Around 20 hours/week)

2. How large part of the teaching offered did you attend?

23 svarande

0%»0 0%
25%»0 0%
50%»0 0%
75%»7 30%
100%»16 69%

Genomsnitt: 4.69

- I was away a lot during the semester. I would have had attended 100% if I would have had the possibility.» (75%)
- One missed lecture.» (100%)

Goals and goal fulfilment

The course syllabus states the course goals in terms of learning outcomes, i.e., knowledge, skills and attitudes to be acquired by the student during the course.

3. How understandable are the course goals?

23 svarande

I have not seen/read the goals»5 21%
The goals are difficult to understand»1 4%
The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer»11 47%
The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn»6 26%

Genomsnitt: 2.78

- I find none in the course memo.» (I have not seen/read the goals)

4. Are the goals reasonable considering your background and the number of credits?

Answer this this question and the succeeding one, only if you do know the course goals.

19 svarande

No, the goals are set too low»0 0%
Yes, the goals seem reasonable»17 89%
No, the goals are set too high»2 10%

Genomsnitt: 2.1

- If you are prepared that it is a tough course.» (Yes, the goals seem reasonable)
- With the basic control course that is given for the chemical engineer students as background this course was pretty tough to get through. » (No, the goals are set too high)

5. Did the examination assess whether you have reached the goals?

19 svarande

No, not at all»2 10%
To some extent»6 31%
Yes, definitely»8 42%
I don"t know/have not been examined yet»3 15%

Genomsnitt: 2.63

- The exam focused too much on solving overly complicated mathematical problems. However, the example exam was very good. Too bad the real exam wasn"t nothing like it.» (To some extent)

Teaching and course administration

6. To what extent has the teaching been of help for your learning?

23 svarande

Small extent»9 39%
Some extent»4 17%
Large extent»8 34%
Great extent»2 8%

Genomsnitt: 2.13

- Värdelösa lektioner, helt obegriplig engelska och alldeles för röriga genomgångar. Läraren höll inte måttet, på mastersnivå kan man förvänta sig bra mycket mer! Övningsledarna däremot gjorde ett mycket bra jobb, tydliga och med stor vilja att förstå elevernas frågeställningar.» (Small extent)
- This is ofcourse a matter of taste, but OH-slides can only go so far :). A thing that could live things up a bit is examples on applications - pictures and the like. Since the course is very much a theoretical mathematical systems course it would be nice to see a stronger connection to reality.» (Some extent)
- The tutorials were great!» (Great extent)

7. To what extent has the course literature and other material been of help for your learning?

23 svarande

Small extent»2 8%
Some extent»13 56%
Large extent»6 26%
Great extent»2 8%

Genomsnitt: 2.34

- Please change the text book. It is not clear in the context of the course.» (Small extent)
- The course book is more of a dictionary than a textbook. Often it feels like it demands that you already know the stuff they"re talking about. So it"s not that good for learning.» (Some extent)
- The book offers no no learning help. I see it more as a reference book.» (Some extent)
- The course book is quite short-spoken about everything and it seems rather like a book you consult for details if you already master the subject than a book for learning. » (Some extent)
- The literature has only been helpful on the exam. I have read very little in it. The lecture handouts are great however. Would be nice if they could be available on the net next year.» (Some extent)
- The book is great, and the lecture notes too.» (Large extent)
- Both the book and the lecture notes was good. A bad thing that the latter was not made availiable on the website though. » (Large extent)

8. How well did the course administration, web page, handouts etc work?

23 svarande

Very badly»1 4%
Rather badly»2 8%
Rather well»14 60%
Very well»6 26%

Genomsnitt: 3.08

- Must find a better system for how to provide the material to the students. Not being able to print the handouts if you missed a lecture is not acceptable.» (Rather badly)
- Some confusion regarding the hand ins, in what way they were to be examined, and the time left for it.» (Rather well)
- Next year it could be good to post the lab assignment at the course homepage from the beginning of the course so that the students have the opportunity to choose when to start with it.» (Rather well)
- Handouts , course PM, lab pm were great.» (Very well)

Study climate

9. How were the opportunities for asking questions and getting help?

23 svarande

Very poor»0 0%
Rather poor»3 13%
Rather good»5 21%
Very good»15 65%
I did not seek help»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 3.52

- Thank you Oskar for taking the time with us.» (Very good)
- Oskar is great, he realy went to lengths to explain the concepts of the course! A good thing also with the "open door policy" of the department. » (Very good)
- doktoranderna va jätte bra» (Very good)
- Everyone have been very helpful, but especially Oscar and that has been appreciated!» (Very good)

10. How well has cooperation between you and your fellow students worked?

23 svarande

Very poorly»0 0%
Rather poorly»0 0%
Rather well»5 21%
Very well»17 73%
I did not seek cooperation»1 4%

Genomsnitt: 3.82

11. How was the course workload?

23 svarande

Too low»0 0%
Low»2 8%
Adequate»10 43%
High»10 43%
Too high»1 4%

Genomsnitt: 3.43

- Number of assignments was just enough, I mean 3 was excellent, and I"m happy that assignment 4 was canceled. Also, the number of lab assignments was quite all right.» (Adequate)
- The assignments were tough but the rest was easy» (Adequate)
- But high in a good way. You learned a lot, especially from the assignments.» (High)
- Too much mandatory assignments that gave no extra points for the exam, took a lot of time from the ordinary studying.» (Too high)

12. How was the total workload this study period?

23 svarande

Too low»0 0%
Low»3 13%
Adequate»3 13%
High»10 43%
Too high»7 30%

Genomsnitt: 3.91

- The depends much on my other choice of course.» (Low)
- If weighing in the optional handins from the other course, along with compulsury tasks a mean of 1.5 handin per week (including exam week).» (Too high)
- Too much assignments and projects in this course and Applied Signal Processing, left no time for just studying exercises.» (Too high)
- again, thanks to SSY130 Applied Signal Processing» (Too high)
- Too High: Applied Signal Processing...» (Too high)

Summarizing questions

13. What is your general impression of the course?

23 svarande

Poor»1 4%
Fair»2 8%
Adequate»8 34%
Good»10 43%
Excellent»2 8%

Genomsnitt: 3.43

- The course didn"t give the big picture of what we were doing. To much focus on the details, which could be good. But there would help with some more applications of the theory.» (Poor)
- There was no real connection with the learning goals in the lectures. The lectures consisted of a lot of mathematical proofs with little or no overview of the concepts.» (Fair)
- I know i"ve learned something. I"m just not sure how to use it.» (Adequate)
- Intressant kurs men byt ut examinatorn nästa år!» (Adequate)
- Since the practical lab was pretty good there could have been more time for doing it. I know that me and some more students dind´,t have time to finish all lab tasks during the 4 hours. » (Good)
- It"s a really useful extension to the basic control course, and it gave me a good insight on the control theory.» (Excellent)

14. What should definitely be preserved to next year?

- the assignments»
- 1-Labs (really great, provided me with the opportunity to actually SEE how my controllers work) 2-Handouts , lecture notes(perfect aid for learning, since we can only focus on the lecturer"s speech) 3-Course PM, it gave a really clear picture of the whole course. 4- All of the teacher assistants were great, they really knew the material, and they were smart and very welcoming. 5-Assignments, they provided a good opportunity to review and the get a better picture of the material, as well as working in a group and having useful discussions. 6-Tutorial sessions(for the projects) and exercise sessions were absolutely helpful.»
- The assignments and the teachers.»
- Most of the things»
- Kursinnehållet och de muntliga inlämningarna»
- The lab and the hand-in assignments.»
- The Assignment were good for the personal learning but I think there should be more schedueled time for questions and help. The laboration preparations were very hard because we had not talked about the topics that were inculded in this preparation. It would be better if there was one some scheduled time for this too.»
- The compiled lecture notes were good and provided a good support over the course.»
- Exercise sessions, assignments, Claes»
- Lab sessions, problem solving sessions, hand ins»
- doktornaderna»
- The assignments»
- the way of the tutorials are being done.»
- The laboratory experiment.»

15. What should definitely be changed to next year?

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- Claes Breitholtz, his extremely slow and poor english was my major annoyance throughout the whole course.»
- definitely change the course literature»
- You need to change exam rules. The examination rules are crazy, sorry to say that. it"s absolutely insane to expect us students not to write notes in the book. When we write notes, that means we study, we understand , and we learn, and this is the ultimate goal of Chalmers University of technology. it"s there to help us learn, understand, and then create. Please do not destroy the Chalmers" reputation by these rules. When we write in the boom it"s not about cheating, we are smart enough to solve the problems. PLease remember that. It was a very insulting moment for me today, when I had to ask other students to lend me their book, I felt like begging. The other thing is that we must have this write to use any calculator that we want. please notice that even the most advanced calculators in the world, only give the FINAL ANSWER, but we know that it the SOLUTION that will receive the points, not the Final answer with no solution. I had to waste like 200 SEK to buy a new calculator, just because it was Chalmers approved, and my old one was not. Yes, in some exams you can"t have any book or notes, so someone might want to store formulas in the calculator,so it should be banned to have advanced calculators then. but when it"s an open book exam, and all formulas, solved examples,.... are in it, what does it mean to say YOU CANT USE YOUR OLD CALCULATOR, YOU SHOULD BUY ANOTHER ONE? Bottom line: PLease update the rules, they are outdated, and OFFENDING. »
- If possible, the book.»
- Maybe it"s a good idea to explain further why we need these things and use more practical examples. I"m not sure how that could be implemented but a guest lecturer or someone from the institution maybe could talk a bit about a project where kalman filters and feed back controllers where used. »
- Examinatorn»
- Change to a better text book.»
- The assignments and the lab.»
- There should be more time for questions. »
- The book was allowed on the exam. As the book is quite difficult to use as a summary, a set of equations or a self-compiled "cheat-sheet" would provide better support, whilst helping with the learning before the exam.»
- Handouts on pdf instead of paper»
- The nature of the hand ins. Again, this is a personal opinion but i find that you learn more when you formalize your results in text, because of this the "hand ins" should also include a written technical report as it does in most other courses. IMPORTANT: Clearify what applies on the exam!!! On several occasions during the lectures Claes stated that it was not OK to write equations in the course book, but "ok" to write notes like "se equation .... on page .... ". This was obviously not anything that the examination administration had been informed with, and consequently, if you had notes like this in your book you had the choice of either taking the discussion with the guards then and there, which you would not win, or proceeding in taking the exam without the book which presents you with some problems. So a recomendation until next year: Either you say that nothing is allowed, or that notes are allowed, no matter in what form, otherwise you end up in this situation. One can also question what purpose the "no equations in the book" rule had. The entire course exept the part on dynamic programming is in it already, so there is really no way to cheat by writing up stuff that you are not allowed to have. Maybe you should consider a table of equations and no book as an alternative? »
- mer exempel på föreläsningarna»
- more ecercises simulating what you will be asked in examination»
- The course needs more actual multivariable controller design. The literature doesn"t tell anything about I and D-controllers. A complementary text is therefore needed (more than the lecture notes). Try to speed up the lectures would also be appreciated. »
- Text book.»

16. Additional comments

- Thanks for the course»
- Sadly the lecturer had poor english skills. This made the lectures inefficient. »
- I was very distracted when the course books were examined during the exam. I think it is good that they were examined but maybe it could have been done half an hour before the exam or somethink like that. Writing an exam is allready stressful and this interruption made it even more stressful. »
- very good teacher"s assistants»
- none»

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