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Solid and fluid mechanics Master Programme Evaluation-11, MPAME
Status: Avslutad Öppen för svar: 2011-12-02 - 2011-12-22 Antal svar: 32 Procent av deltagarna som svarat: 82% Kontaktperson: Peter Folkow» Utbildningsprogram som genomför enkäten: Maskinteknik 300 hp Utbildningsprogram studenten tillhör: Maskinteknik 300 hp
Background1. Where did you study for your Bachelor degree?*Please comment if you studied in another country than your native country.32 svarande
Sweden - Chalmers» | | 28 | | 87% |
Sweden - another university» | | 0 | | 0% |
University outside Sweden» | | 4 | | 12% |
Genomsnitt: 1.25 2. What is your opinion on the information about the master programme when you applied?Information from home pages, programme administration etc.32 svarande
Poor» | | 0 | | 0% |
Rather poor» | | 1 | | 3% |
OK» | | 8 | | 25% |
Good» | | 21 | | 65% |
Very good» | | 2 | | 6% |
I did not seek/need information» | | 0 | | |
Genomsnitt: 3.75 - Information from hand-outs and webpages were good.» (Good)
- Could have been more information about the actual courses, when we applied for the master programs during our third year.» (Good)
Your own effort3. How many hours per week have you spent studying at this programme?We mean total time, that is, it comprises the time you spent in class and the time you spent on your own work. Try to estimate the average time over the entire programme.32 svarande
Around 30 hours/week or less» | | 2 | | 6% |
Around 40 hours/week» | | 8 | | 25% |
Around 50 hours/week» | | 18 | | 56% |
Around 60 hours/week or more» | | 4 | | 12% |
Genomsnitt: 2.75 - Did the Formula Student project at the same time which limited the time available.» (Around 30 hours/week or less)
- I have studied SaF and the third year of Eng. Phys. parallell thus time was spent at chalmers. It is quite hard to differentitate the time spent as well as I took the Formula Student course which alone takes many hours. » (Around 50 hours/week)
- This quarter it has been even more.» (Around 50 hours/week)
- Har varierat rätt mycket, men överlag hård belastning.» (Around 50 hours/week)
4. How large part of the teaching offered did you attend? 32 svarande
0%» | | 0 | | 0% |
25%» | | 0 | | 0% |
50%» | | 1 | | 3% |
75%» | | 15 | | 46% |
100%» | | 16 | | 50% |
Genomsnitt: 4.46 - 75-90» (75%)
Goals and goal fulfilmentThe programme syllabus states the goals in terms of learning outcomes, i.e., knowledge, skills and attitudes to be acquired by the student during the education. The learning outcomes are (excerpts):
After the master programme in Solid and Fluid Mechanics the students should be able to
-formulate mechanical engineering problems as mathematical models.
-use advanced topics regarding mathematical modelling as well as computational and experimental techniques relevant for the specialized tracks.
-show insight and ability to work in teams and collaborate in groups with different compositions.
-be able to give written and oral presentations of their conclusions and knowledge to specialist and non-specialist audiences.5. How understandable are the programme goals?32 svarande
The goals are difficult to understand» | | 0 | | 0% |
The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer» | | 7 | | 21% |
The goals are clear enough» | | 25 | | 78% |
Genomsnitt: 2.78 6. Are the goals reasonable for a master degree?32 svarande
No, the goals are set too low» | | 0 | | 0% |
No, the goals are a bit too low» | | 3 | | 9% |
Yes, the goals seem reasonable» | | 29 | | 90% |
No, the goals are a bit high» | | 0 | | 0% |
No, the goals are set too high» | | 0 | | 0% |
Genomsnitt: 2.9
Programme layoutThe masters programme in Solid and Fluid Mechanics consists of two compulsory corses in the first quarter (Mechanics of solids and fluids, Computations in mechanics) and the compulsory "Project course" in quarter four. Besides that, there are courses in quarter two and three that are compulsory for each track. 7. What do you think of the programme layout?32 svarande
Poor» | | 1 | | 3% |
Rather poor» | | 1 | | 3% |
OK» | | 16 | | 50% |
Good» | | 13 | | 40% |
Very good» | | 1 | | 3% |
No opinion» | | 0 | | |
Genomsnitt: 3.37 - pjoject course couldn"t be worse, so thats good» (Poor)
- Projekt-kursen kan göras bättre, t ex hade det varit roligare att göra ett projekt över 2 eller 3 läsperioder, som vissa andra program gör. Nu blev det 4 veckor där man strukturerade upp allt och kom igång, sen ett påsklov mitt i, och sen 3 veckor med slutrapport å annat. Roligare om det varit större!
Säg åt folk att inte välja Rigid body dynamics och CFD samtidigt, oerhörd arbetsbelastning! » (OK)
- The compulsory course in quarter four causes some problems if you are on an exchange program during year four since it then coincides with the thesis project. » (OK)
- More analytical stuff, I enjoyed Fundamental Structural Dynamics the most» (Good)
- I think the courses are ordered in a logical way.
The compulsory courses were good.» (Good)
- Good, but the "Project course" was not good.» (Good)
8. Is it a good thing to have 3 mandatory courses?32 svarande
There should be less» | | 2 | | 6% |
It is OK» | | 24 | | 80% |
There should be more» | | 4 | | 13% |
No comment» | | 2 | | |
Genomsnitt: 2.06 - working load of two courses is high enough. I study
MS of Mechanics and I can say it is impassible to have 3 in each quarter» (There should be less)
- The numbers is OK but some of the courses must be revised like the course "Project in applied Mechanics" which was not successful to achieve its expected goals. » (It is OK)
- Gärna lite mer krav på kurser för det ena eller andra spåret. » (There should be more)
- I think companies want to know what skills the student have when they have followed this master programme.» (There should be more)
9. Should there be a more pronounced emphasis on BOTH solid and fluid mechanics?This could be achieved by further compulsory courses for all programme students within both fields. Expected outcome would be engineers with better overall knowledge in both fields, at the expense of deeper knowledge within each specialisation. 32 svarande
There should be less» | | 2 | | 7% |
It is OK as it is» | | 19 | | 67% |
There should be more» | | 7 | | 25% |
No opinion» | | 4 | | |
Genomsnitt: 2.17 - i think it should be possible to chose courses from both fields or from the one that seems most interesting» (There should be less)
- Hellre riktigt bra inom ett område än halvbra inom två. Även om man nu själv - med facit i hand - blandat lite. » (It is OK as it is)
- it was good last year but I think it is good as it is in the new Applied mechanics master. with four compulsory courses including CFD and a structural dynamics course. » (It is OK as it is)
- Thinks it"s better if its the students choice, since the outcome will be far better if your interested in what your doing. A guidance over predicted future needs from industry could be helpful in the course selection.» (It is OK as it is)
- No more that what we have now. I think more focus in each field is more reasonable» (It is OK as it is)
- The new way is god where all students take courses in CFD and FEM.» (There should be more)
10. Do you miss a course or a topic in the master programme?32 svarande
Yes» | | 9 | | 28% |
No» | | 23 | | 71% |
Genomsnitt: 1.71 - Combustion» (Yes)
- it could have been more mandatory oral presentations, i managed to slip through but i realise i need much more practice in that field. it might be hard for some students but in the long run and with the right support it will help those persons, maybe with a possibility to present in front of smaller groups » (Yes)
- Fluid structure interaction» (Yes)
- Wind energy, biomechanics» (Yes)
- I missed a composite course.» (Yes)
- Aerospace engineering
orbit mechanics» (Yes)
- thermodynamics
advanced mathematics» (Yes)
- I would like a course that goes deeper into the finite element method, that covers things you meet in practice like choosing the right element type, mesh generation etc. » (Yes)
11. Are there any courses that you think should either be heavily revised or even removed from the programme?32 svarande
Yes» | | 11 | | 34% |
No» | | 21 | | 65% |
Genomsnitt: 1.65 - Project in applied mechanics» (Yes)
- i think it already is though: computations in mechan ics» (Yes)
- The compressible flow course was OK, but a little uninspiring. Exam was too easy, didn"t really study to it.» (Yes)
- The purpose of the project course was good, but it failed in many ways. This one should be revised. Material Mechanics was a good course too, but could be made more interesting.» (Yes)
- "Project in applied Mechanics" must be revised.» (Yes)
- This mandatory "MTS" course for swedish students is just crap that prevents you from taking an interesting course. At least reduce the credit for it. Don"t see the benefit of it today, but maybe in the future... Should be noted that it"s not a specific course for the programme.» (Yes)
- I think the material mechanics course was to specific.» (Yes)
- the course "computations in mechanics" is the only course about mathematics in mechanics, however its syllabus is not very good, I feel it should be revised not removed.» (Yes)
- "Project Course"» (Yes)
12. Impressions of the Computational solid mechanics specialisation.NOTE! Only answer this question if you attended at least 4 courses in the Computational solid mechanics specialisation (Rigid Body Dynamics, Material Mechanics, FEM Applications, Fatigue Design, Advanced Material Mechanics, Computational Nonlinear Mechanics). What is your impression of theMatrisfråga - I didnt pick excellent because everything can always be better but it has been very good over all.»
- Some of the teachers shouldn"t be allowed to teach, their pedagogical skills are very poor. Although others are great!»
relevance of the courses to this specialisation? 15 svarande
Very poor» | | 0 | | 0% |
Poor» | | 0 | | 0% |
OK» | | 0 | | 0% |
Good» | | 6 | | 60% |
Excellent» | | 4 | | 40% |
No opinion» | | 5 | | |
Genomsnitt: 4.4 balance between theory and numerical/experimental simulations in this specialisation? 15 svarande
Very poor» | | 0 | | 0% |
Poor» | | 0 | | 0% |
OK» | | 2 | | 20% |
Good» | | 6 | | 60% |
Excellent» | | 2 | | 20% |
No opinion» | | 5 | | |
Genomsnitt: 4 teachers in this specialisation? 15 svarande
Very poor» | | 0 | | 0% |
Poor» | | 1 | | 10% |
OK» | | 2 | | 20% |
Good» | | 5 | | 50% |
Excellent» | | 2 | | 20% |
No opinion» | | 5 | | |
Genomsnitt: 3.8 13. Impressions of the Fluid dynamics specialisation.NOTE! Only answer this question if you attended at least 4 courses in the Fluid dynamics specialisation (Turbulent Flow, Computational Fluid Dynamics, Compressible Flow, Turbomachinery, Turbulence Modelling, Gas Turbine Technology, Multiphase Flow). What is your impression of theMatrisfråga - I think it could be a bit more numerical/experimental simulations.»
relevance of the courses to this specialisation? 12 svarande
Very poor» | | 0 | | 0% |
Poor» | | 0 | | 0% |
OK» | | 0 | | 0% |
Good» | | 5 | | 83% |
Excellent» | | 1 | | 16% |
No opinion» | | 6 | | |
Genomsnitt: 4.16 balance between theory and numerical/experimental simulations in this specialisation? 12 svarande
Very poor» | | 0 | | 0% |
Poor» | | 0 | | 0% |
OK» | | 2 | | 33% |
Good» | | 4 | | 66% |
Excellent» | | 0 | | 0% |
No opinion» | | 6 | | |
Genomsnitt: 3.66 teachers in this specialisation? 12 svarande
Very poor» | | 0 | | 0% |
Poor» | | 0 | | 0% |
OK» | | 0 | | 0% |
Good» | | 3 | | 50% |
Excellent» | | 3 | | 50% |
No opinion» | | 6 | | |
Genomsnitt: 4.5 14. Impressions of the Structural dynamics specialisation.NOTE! Only answer this question if you attended at least 4 courses in the Structural dynamics specialisation (Rigid Body Dynamics, FEM Applications, Fundamental Structural Dynamics, Applied Structural Dynamics, Vibration Control). What is your impression of theMatrisfråga - Some of the teachers shouldn"t be allowed to teach, their pedagogical skills are very poor. Although others are great!»
relevance of the courses to this specialisation? 16 svarande
Very poor» | | 0 | | 0% |
Poor» | | 0 | | 0% |
OK» | | 1 | | 7% |
Good» | | 8 | | 61% |
Excellent» | | 4 | | 30% |
No opinion» | | 3 | | |
Genomsnitt: 4.23 balance between theory and numerical/experimental simulations in this specialisation? 16 svarande
Very poor» | | 0 | | 0% |
Poor» | | 0 | | 0% |
OK» | | 3 | | 23% |
Good» | | 8 | | 61% |
Excellent» | | 2 | | 15% |
No opinion» | | 3 | | |
Genomsnitt: 3.92 teachers in this specialisation? 16 svarande
Very poor» | | 0 | | 0% |
Poor» | | 1 | | 7% |
OK» | | 1 | | 7% |
Good» | | 7 | | 53% |
Excellent» | | 4 | | 30% |
No opinion» | | 3 | | |
Genomsnitt: 4.07
Programme administration15. What is your general impression of the programme administration?Programme administration means the programme director (Mats Ander), coordinators (Cecilia Hedenstierna, Johan Bankel, Lilian Sandström), student administrators (Carina Schmidt and Ulla Lindberg-Thieme).32 svarande
Very poor» | | 1 | | 3% |
Poor» | | 1 | | 3% |
OK» | | 6 | | 18% |
Good» | | 15 | | 46% |
Excellent» | | 9 | | 28% |
No opinion» | | 0 | | |
Genomsnitt: 3.93 - jugdement only concerning hedenstierna » (Very poor)
- Hade varit kul å få se dem oftare, lite nya uppdateringar osv. » (OK)
- Lilian Sandström rules!» (Good)
16. What is your opinion of the information as a current student within the program ?Information about programme layout, specialisations, elective courses, theses.Matrisfråga - I dont like pingpong, it is very hard to find all the course memos and lecture notes for courses. I needed many of those to choose which courses to attend ! »
- Master thesis information came very late»
- Fick i efterhand reda på att det varit en informationskväll angående exjobb! Blev väldigt upprörd över detta! Mina kurskamrater hade fått inbjudan via mail, och på så sätt haft möjlighet att anmäla sig. Jag fick aldrig något mail.
Information om exjobb borde ske på dagtid, för ALLA! »
- Information for students currently abroad could be increased.»
- Perhaps an updated list of relevant courses in other master programs could helpful. »
- Should be clearer disctiptions of the courses.»
Program information 31 svarande
Very poor» | | 0 | | 0% |
Poor» | | 2 | | 6% |
OK» | | 13 | | 41% |
Good» | | 16 | | 51% |
Excellent» | | 0 | | 0% |
No opinion» | | 0 | | |
Genomsnitt: 3.45 Specialisations 31 svarande
Very poor» | | 0 | | 0% |
Poor» | | 5 | | 16% |
OK» | | 13 | | 41% |
Good» | | 13 | | 41% |
Excellent» | | 0 | | 0% |
No opinion» | | 0 | | |
Genomsnitt: 3.25 Elective courses 31 svarande
Very poor» | | 0 | | 0% |
Poor» | | 4 | | 13% |
OK» | | 15 | | 50% |
Good» | | 11 | | 36% |
Excellent» | | 0 | | 0% |
No opinion» | | 1 | | |
Genomsnitt: 3.23 Theses 31 svarande
Very poor» | | 1 | | 3% |
Poor» | | 8 | | 25% |
OK» | | 12 | | 38% |
Good» | | 9 | | 29% |
Excellent» | | 1 | | 3% |
No opinion» | | 0 | | |
Genomsnitt: 3.03 17. What is your opinion on the support from the Student centre?32 svarande
Very poor» | | 1 | | 4% |
Poor» | | 0 | | 0% |
OK» | | 10 | | 45% |
Good» | | 6 | | 27% |
Very good» | | 5 | | 22% |
Did not seek their support or help» | | 10 | | |
Genomsnitt: 3.63 - Havn"t heard so much from them.» (OK)
Study climate18. Did you feel welcomed by Chalmers and the staff at the master programme during your first days?31 svarande
No, not at all» | | 0 | | 0% |
To some extent» | | 3 | | 10% |
Yes definitely» | | 26 | | 89% |
No opinion/did not attend» | | 2 | | |
Genomsnitt: 2.89 - not really and overall and there is always a feeling of disturbing when wishing to get help from the teachers» (To some extent)
- From everyone except Lennart Josefson. He really did not want to answer questions in Fatigue design. As a student it felt like you disturbed him alot just to go and ask some questions.» (To some extent)
- Now Iam a Ph.D student » (Yes definitely)
19. How well has cooperation between you and your fellow students worked?32 svarande
Poorly» | | 0 | | 0% |
Rather poorly» | | 1 | | 3% |
OK» | | 5 | | 15% |
Rather well» | | 8 | | 25% |
Very well» | | 18 | | 56% |
Did not seek cooperation with my fellow students» | | 0 | | |
Genomsnitt: 4.34 - In most of the courses was well but not in all of them» (Rather well)
20. What do you think of the principle of having mixed groups (culture, gender) in some of the courses?32 svarande
Bad» | | 1 | | 3% |
Rather bad» | | 2 | | 6% |
OK» | | 8 | | 26% |
Good» | | 8 | | 26% |
Very good» | | 11 | | 36% |
No opinion» | | 2 | | |
Genomsnitt: 3.86 - I think you should choose who, if, you want to work with in a group. (I interpeted the question as groups for hand in projects) » (Bad)
- The differences in motivation causes a large problem.» (Rather bad)
- It is good to practise working in diverse groups, but if there is a big difference in ambition level beween group members this can cause trouble. Also, since the courses are only 7 weeks there is quite a short time to establish the group.» (OK)
- I don"t think that we should focus on that. We are all here because we are interested in technology and then the groups shouldn’,t be put together just to mix gender and culture.» (OK)
- But in our group we were only 2 females and 15 or more males» (OK)
- but it should be equal for all when possible. it is not fair if there is group work and most groups are mixed but some only contains swedish spoken members» (Very good)
- Tyvärr har inte det varit fallet speciellt många gånger! » (Very good)
- divirsity is an advantage. It will open your mind and help you understand the world around you.» (Very good)
21. How are the opportunities to come in contact with teachers?General impression of the staff"s accessibility. 32 svarande
Very poor» | | 0 | | 0% |
Poor» | | 1 | | 3% |
OK» | | 3 | | 9% |
Good» | | 15 | | 46% |
Excellent» | | 13 | | 40% |
Did not seek contact» | | 0 | | |
Genomsnitt: 4.25 - They always take time for you, but they are not always that easy to get a hold of/find.» (Good)
- the applied mechanics appartment are really good!» (Good)
- Most teachers are easy to get in touch with and offer help and explanations when needed.» (Excellent)
- Some of the lecturers that have a lot of other missions besides the lecturing might be hard to find sometimes but then they usually have an assistent that you can go to instead which is good.» (Excellent)
22. Are your impression that the student opinions and results from course evaluations have significant impact and are taken seriously?32 svarande
Not at all» | | 1 | | 4% |
To some extent» | | 12 | | 48% |
Yes, definetly» | | 12 | | 48% |
No opinion» | | 7 | | |
Genomsnitt: 2.44 - They are often blatantly ignored.» (Not at all)
- I saw that they paid attention to our ideas but I don"t know if they have any practical effect or not» (No opinion)
23. What do you think of attending an education given in English instead of in your native language?32 svarande
Bad» | | 0 | | 0% |
Rather bad» | | 0 | | 0% |
OK» | | 2 | | 6% |
Good» | | 11 | | 34% |
Very good» | | 19 | | 59% |
No opinion» | | 0 | | |
Genomsnitt: 4.53 - since I don"t know the names of things before it doesn"t matter if I have to learn them in swedish or english...» (OK)
- Engineering is a wide field so why restraining to one "small" language» (Good)
- For me it does not matter which language. Many of the expressions are english anyway.» (Very good)
24. To what extent is your knowledge/competence from your bachelor degree sufficient to attend this programme?Did you have the prerequisites that you need to start and follow the courses in the programme? If you feel that you lack any knowledge, please comment. 32 svarande
Poor» | | 0 | | 0% |
Rather poor» | | 1 | | 3% |
OK» | | 3 | | 9% |
Good» | | 14 | | 43% |
Very good» | | 14 | | 43% |
Genomsnitt: 4.28 - could have been better» (Rather poor)
- Could have needed some more knowledge on differential equations, but then there is a course in year 3 that would probably have helped. (I have recommended that to younger students, wish somebody had recommended it to me) » (Good)
- Yes, but when I started I didn"t have several of them and for the courses I took I didn"t need one (Regler teknik) the others were completed I started the program. » (Very good)
25. What is your opinion about that you are expected to have computer skills in Matlab?When attending this programme, you are supposed to have some knowlege in Matlab.32 svarande
Very poor» | | 0 | | 0% |
Poor» | | 1 | | 3% |
OK» | | 6 | | 18% |
Good» | | 12 | | 37% |
Excellent» | | 13 | | 40% |
Genomsnitt: 4.15 - Många som inte använt det innan. Jag själv har aldrig varit speciellt bra på det, har allt som oftast sett Matlab som ett nödvändigt ont. Har dock blivit bättre på det under mastern. Men, tycker att kommersiella programvaror borde användas i mycket större utsträckning, för det känns som att det huvudsakligen är sådana man kommer tillämpa sedan. » (Poor)
- but some knowledge is not the right description -u should be a professional at start» (OK)
- it is good to have like a quick-course in the evening for the new students when they start.» (Good)
- Matlab is a good tool for learning and understanding numerical simulations.» (Good)
- Either matlab or some other programming language, since the syntax in matlab is quite easy the transition should be smooth. » (Excellent)
Summarizing questions26. What is your general impression of the programme so far?32 svarande
Very Poor» | | 0 | | 0% |
Poor» | | 0 | | 0% |
OK» | | 5 | | 15% |
Good» | | 15 | | 46% |
Very good» | | 12 | | 37% |
Genomsnitt: 4.21 27. Considering your experience from this programme, would you choose this programme if you could turn back time?32 svarande
No» | | 0 | | 0% |
Yes» | | 28 | | 100% |
I do not know» | | 4 | | |
Genomsnitt: 2 - But I would have mixed more with courses from other programmes.» (Yes)
- i am not sure that it have been worth it but for me it was more a test to see if i could make it» (I do not know)
- Svår fråga. Skulle nog byta eftersom jag ofta känt att tillämpad mekanik är för svårt för mig, skräcken över att inte ha tillräcklig kunskap när man går ut är påtaglig. Dock är det förbannat roligt! » (I do not know)
28. Do you believe an internship system would have any impact on student"s choice of masters programme?In the future, there are prospects of enhanced collaborations with the industry at the end of the masters studies. For example, a few of the masters students at this program may be guaranteed summer job and/or a short term project employment with Volvo.
So, do you think such a system would make more students choosing this programme?32 svarande
No, not at all» | | 1 | | 3% |
To some extent» | | 6 | | 22% |
Yes definitely» | | 20 | | 74% |
No opinion» | | 5 | | |
Genomsnitt: 2.7 - Think people choose program depending on their interests rather than the possibility to maybe get a summer job.» (No, not at all)
- Sommarjobb inom det man utbildar sig vore jättebra! » (Yes definitely)
- THIS MUST BE DONE, SOUNDS GREAT!» (Yes definitely)
- Very good idea.» (Yes definitely)
29. What should definitely be preserved?- Fundamental Structural dynamics ! »
- jim brozelius, peter thorstensson, thomas abrahamsson, magnus ek, shahaab ..., fredrik larsson, mats anders. people that you feel is there to help. i dont belive one bit in teachers that for some reason need to say to the student that he or she should already know the stuff that they are asking about. i wouldn"t ask if i already knew the answer »
- the assignment and projects of the courses»
30. What should definitely be changed?- Borde vara med "gatherings" i början av mastern, så att man blir en bra grupp, och framför allt får lära känna alla nya människor! T ex vet jag andra program där interaktionen mellan utbytesstudenter och svenskar varit mycket bättre! Hos oss har man nästan inte lärt känna någon av dem, just för att de umgås med sina egna, och vi med våra. Tråkigt faktiskt.
En liten nollningsperiod, säg en vecka med aktiviteter, hade därför varit rolig att ha i början!
Mer tillämpning av kommersiella programvaror! »
- More commercial software. Matlab is good for theory, but you would also like to know a little bit more commercial software than one or classes.»
31. Additional comments- Think it"s a nice program. Maybe a little too theoretical sometimes though. Understand that the reality can be complex(more than course content). But one can at least show/tell/mension some of the applications and say how they are simplified/modelled to fit into school book examples and then just calculate the simplified example. In other words:give the application as a preface to the problem.
It would be nice to come to a future job and see a real thing and then realize what simplifications that has to be made in order to apply my theories. Think you get the idea...
Study visits and labs are appreciated.»
- Studied abroad last year, so I have actually only been taking part of the courses this semester. But so far so good.»
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