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TKITE 1112-2 Testing, debugging and verification, TDA566

Status: Avslutad
Öppen för svar: 2011-12-12 - 2012-01-15
Antal svar: 24
Procent av deltagarna som svarat: 31%
Kontaktperson: Mattias Bingerud»
Utbildningsprogram som genomför enkäten: Informationsteknik 300 hp

Your own effort

1. How many hours per week did you spend on this course?

We mean total time, that is, it comprises the time you spent in class and the time you spent on your own work. Try to estimate the average time over the entire study period.

24 svarande

At most 15 hours/week»12 50%
Around 20 hours/week»6 25%
Around 25 hours/week»5 20%
Around 30 hours/week»1 4%
At least 35 hours/week»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.79

- The labs took too much time and the last one was irrelevant.» (Around 25 hours/week)

2. How large part of the teaching offered did you attend?

24 svarande

0%»1 4%
25%»3 12%
50%»4 16%
75%»10 41%
100%»6 25%

Genomsnitt: 3.7

- Very good slides and the fact that I had collisions with other courses/stuff in my life caused this.» (0%)
- This course collided with the other course I took. Really bad from GU to allow a choice like that!» (25%)
- Didn"t attend the guest lecture.» (100%)

Goals and goal fulfilment

The course syllabus states the course goals in terms of learning outcomes, i.e., knowledge, skills and attitudes to be acquired by the student during the course.

3. How understandable are the course goals?

24 svarande

I have not seen/read the goals»5 20%
The goals are difficult to understand»1 4%
The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer»5 20%
The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn»13 54%

Genomsnitt: 3.08

4. Are the goals reasonable considering your background and the number of credits?

Answer this this question and the succeeding one, only if you do know the course goals.

22 svarande

No, the goals are set too low»0 0%
Yes, the goals seem reasonable»20 90%
No, the goals are set too high»2 9%

Genomsnitt: 2.09

5. Did the examination assess whether you have reached the goals?

23 svarande

No, not at all»0 0%
To some extent»8 34%
Yes, definitely»11 47%
I don"t know/have not been examined yet»4 17%

Genomsnitt: 2.82

Teaching and course administration

6. To what extent have the lectures been of help for your learning?

24 svarande

Small extent»1 4%
Some extent»12 50%
Large extent»7 29%
Great extent»4 16%

Genomsnitt: 2.58

- The lecturers were good. But why is Wolfgang drinking wine during a lecture?» (Some extent)
- Very good slides» (Great extent)

7. To what extent have the exercise classes been of help for the learning?

24 svarande

Small extent»5 20%
Some extent»15 62%
Large extent»3 12%
Great extent»1 4%

Genomsnitt: 2

- Did not attend» (Small extent)
- The assistants were confused and really bad teachers. The third lab was impossible to start without going to the exercise class about it, and I was on a different lecture then.» (Small extent)
- I failed mostly by not taking my time to prepare myself before the exercise sessions, therefor I think I could have got more from these.» (Some extent)
- Always good to repeat information from lectures.» (Some extent)

8. To what extent have the lab assignments, and the feedback on hand-ins, been of help for the learning?

23 svarande

Small extent»0 0%
Some extent»4 17%
Large extent»11 47%
Great extent»8 34%

Genomsnitt: 3.17

- No lab sessions made us try and fail a couple of times. Gabriele talked about irrelevant things in 30 minutes before asking our question when we went to his room.» (Some extent)
- Overall good labs» (Large extent)
- The feedback from Bart on the formal specification lab was the best feedback I have ever seen. Extremely helpful in understanding the task.» (Great extent)

9. To what extent has the course literature and other material been of help for your learning?

24 svarande

Small extent»9 37%
Some extent»14 58%
Large extent»1 4%
Great extent»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.66

- This course REALLY REALLY REALLY need some sort of course material. Research papers or books or whatever. Relying only on lectures and slides doesn"t work.» (Small extent)
- I hardly read anything in the course literature. Mostly looked at lecture handout PDF:s.» (Small extent)
- Not that interesting literature but other material has been pretty useful.» (Some extent)
- The slides were good, but some of them confusing.» (Some extent)
- the lecture slides were good» (Large extent)

10. How well did the course administration, web page, handouts etc work?

24 svarande

Very badly»1 4%
Rather badly»0 0%
Rather well»14 58%
Very well»9 37%

Genomsnitt: 3.29

- The course homepage the teachers referred to was hosted on a different university. The homepage on GUL (http://gul.gu.se/public/courseId/46726/lang-sv/publicPage.do) didn"t refer to that one at all. Vladimir regretted to hand out lecture slides when we needed them the most! Then, we had only three days to work with lab 3. Really bad behavior!» (Very badly)
- It would have been nice if the labs were published a bit earlier.» (Rather well)
- Correct answers for exercises could be revealed sooner (on the homepage) and it would be nice if the answers were not mixed in with the questions if you"re not able to attend the scheduled exercises.» (Rather well)
- You should publish labs earlier» (Very well)

Study climate

11. How were the opportunities for asking questions and getting help?

24 svarande

Very poor»3 12%
Rather poor»3 12%
Rather good»7 29%
Very good»7 29%
I did not seek help»4 16%

Genomsnitt: 3.25

- No lab sessions made the difficult labs even more difficult.» (Very poor)
- Could have had more time together with the teaching assistans, like assisted lab occasions.» (Rather poor)
- Bart has been extremely helpful» (Very good)
- Props to Bart for always taking the time to answer our questions thoroughly.» (Very good)

12. How well has cooperation between you and your fellow students worked?

24 svarande

Very poorly»0 0%
Rather poorly»3 12%
Rather well»10 41%
Very well»10 41%
I did not seek cooperation»1 4%

Genomsnitt: 3.37

- Not the best group mate sadly» (Rather poorly)
- Me and my lab partner worked together in both courses this period. Any other pair would have made both fail because of the workload.» (Rather well)

13. How was the course workload?

24 svarande

Too low»1 4%
Low»1 4%
Adequate»17 70%
High»4 16%
Too high»1 4%

Genomsnitt: 3.12

- Very well paced course» (Adequate)
- Sometimes it took much time to install software tools used in the course.» (High)

14. How was the total workload this study period?

24 svarande

Too low»0 0%
Low»0 0%
Adequate»10 41%
High»10 41%
Too high»4 16%

Genomsnitt: 3.75

- My project course was really heavy towards the end.» (High)
- My own fault.» (Too high)

Summarizing questions

15. What is your general impression of the course?

24 svarande

Poor»1 4%
Fair»3 12%
Adequate»6 25%
Good»11 45%
Excellent»3 12%

Genomsnitt: 3.5

- I was expecting to hear more about designing a system for testability. In my opinion, that is where unit testing becomes interesting. The basis is really very simple, but applying it to a complex system can be difficult. Also testing things with side-effects, e.g. writing files, how does one test this properly? That is what I had expected to learn more about.» (Adequate)
- It"s nice to see in-house tools such as KeY.» (Good)
- Top 3 highest quality courses I have taken at Chalmers. However a bit boring that like 75% of the course is not used in industry.» (Excellent)
- Wolfgang Ahrendt is an excellent teacher! His assistants were knowledgeable and friendly. I"ll recommend this course to anyone.» (Excellent)

16. What should definitely be preserved to next year?

- The labs»
- lab assignments»
- Getting to see lecture hand outs before the lectures so you can prepare.»

17. What should definitely be changed to next year?

- Should spend more time on test cases»
- The course NEEDS some literature.»
- course material should be made clearer»
- Easier and less time consuming to install and use course tools.»
- Remove lab 3 and the useless logic parts. Replace Gabriele with a better assistant. Make lab sessions.»

18. Additional comments

- The slides should be better explained, i definately believe that more effort could be put on explaining things more pedagogically. They are very messy and they include a lot of unnecessary information that only confuse. My tip is to remake the slides for next year and make them more easy to understand!»
- Thanks for a nice course.»
- I have a general comment regarding this course in relation to a few others. Before taking this course I have taken the SE using formal methods and the concurrent programming course. I find that these courses overlap a bit too much. Or rather, they focus on things that would be more fitting in the other course. I"m not saying the topics aren"t relevant in the courses as they are now, but it could be better. I would suggest this: -Move the spin / promela topic from SEFM to CP. It is much more relevant and practical there. We even used a course book from Ben-Ari there too. -Include hoare logic in the same depth as it was covered in TDV in SEFM instead of in TDV. -Focus more on testing larger scale systems with dependencies in TDV as mentioned in the answer to a previous question. -Advice people not to take TDV after SEFM, because then SEFM is tough and TDV is a bit dull and repetitive. The other way round is fine.»
- The question about debugging on the exam was a bit ambiguous. The definition of "a correct english sentence" was left out. Knowing that by heart is not relevant to the course at all.»
- Great teachers, passionate about the subject.»

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