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Physical ergonomics (2011), PPU120

Status: Avslutad
Öppen för svar: 2011-10-25 - 2011-11-02
Antal svar: 30
Procent av deltagarna som svarat: 63%
Kontaktperson: Oskar Rexfelt»

Your own effort

1. How many hours per week did you spend on this course?

We mean total time, that is, it comprises the time you spent in class and the time you spent on your own work. Try to estimate the average time over the entire study period.

29 svarande

At most 15 hours/week» 2 6%

Around 20 hours/week» 14 48%

Around 25 hours/week» 10 34%

Around 30 hours/week» 3 10%

At least 35 hours/week» 0 0%

Genomsnitt: 2.48

- Innehållet i kursen var så tafatt att man inte ens behövde lägga 15h i veckan. » (At most 15 hours/week)
- first two weeks with home assignment are stressful, the left course are relatviely relaxing» (Around 20 hours/week)
- I had a schedule clash, which resulted in missed lectures and thus a little bit compressed time spending.» (Around 20 hours/week)
- Less in the beginning, much more in the end.» (Around 20 hours/week)
- Its always one out of two courses that gets the most attention. This time it was ppu120.» (Around 30 hours/week)

2. How large part of the teaching offered did you attend?

30 svarande

0%» 0 0%

25%» 2 6%

50%» 2 6%

75%» 6 20%

100%» 20 66%

Genomsnitt: 4.46

- needs more lectures, and sometimes guest lectures can risk of being cancelled» (25%)
- I had a schedule clash and had to prioritate the other course due to mandatory discussions» (25%)
- Had an other course which had lectures with exactly the same scheme as this course.» (50%)
- missed one lession» (75%)
- It felt very poor that some lectures were very similar to what we learned during the second year of the bachelor program. A deeper course should offer more lectures of a deeper level. » (75%)
- I did attend every lecture and seminar, however I found them totally useless since I"ve taken the basic course during my bachelor years and the same information was used in both courses with only the difference of language spoken at the lectures. » (100%)

Goals and goal fulfilment

The course syllabus states the course goals in terms of learning outcomes, i.e., knowledge, skills and attitudes to be acquired by the student during the course.

3. How understandable are the course goals?

30 svarande

I have not seen/read the goals» 3 10%

The goals are difficult to understand» 1 3%

The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer» 10 33%

The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn» 16 53%

Genomsnitt: 3.3

- I think that I already knew most of the course before we started it, since it was a repetition of previous course in ergonomics. » (The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn)

4. Are the goals reasonable considering your background and the number of credits?

Answer this this question and the succeeding one, only if you do know the course goals.

27 svarande

No, the goals are set too low» 6 22%

Yes, the goals seem reasonable» 21 77%

No, the goals are set too high» 0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.77

- The goals are easy to fulfill since we did the project in a similar way as in year 2 of the bachelor years.» (No, the goals are set too low)
- learned nothing I didn"t already learn in the first course. complete recap of old course» (No, the goals are set too low)
- Målen satta i kursen var lägre än den kurs i Ergonomi jag läste för 3 år sedan.» (No, the goals are set too low)
- The workload was pretty high since a lot of different areas are included. However, I think the topic of ergonomics is sometimes not very scientific and in order to make the course interesting and applicable, its necessary to include several methods which emphasizes the scientific relevance. » (Yes, the goals seem reasonable)

5. Did the examination assess whether you have reached the goals?

26 svarande

No, not at all» 0 0%

To some extent» 15 57%

Yes, definitely» 9 34%

I don"t know/have not been examined yet» 2 7%

Genomsnitt: 2.5

- project is very practical, can add some more theory study» (To some extent)

Teaching and course administration

6. To what extent has the teaching been of help for your learning?

30 svarande

Small extent» 14 46%

Some extent» 14 46%

Large extent» 2 6%

Great extent» 0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.6

- I would say that the only thing new to this course are the method of PEEA, which means that only one of the lectures were useful to me.» (Small extent)
- We had the same lectures as we did in the ergonomics course in the first three years.» (Small extent)
- Most of the lectures were repetition from previous courses and felt very unneccessary. The part of the lecture biomehanics was good where we got to try some cases and calculate loads, and I would have preferred more of this type of lectures where we get to try out before applying to our own project. » (Small extent)
- The lectures were very similar to those in the course we had in year 2.» (Small extent)
- I believe that many lectures were held at a too poor level and this made me look for further information in course literature instead of trusting the tutors. » (Small extent)
- The lectures and the course literature did not reach a deeper level than given in the basic ergonomic course. To bad since you want to be inspired and motivated with deeper theory at lectures to be able to reach a even better result at the project work.» (Small extent)
- Here comes the criticism. This course is basically repetition of the ergonomics course we took in the second year. It was the same lecturers with the same lectures, but in english. To be honest, I didn"t learn almost anything new, and that has been said by many others. And it has also been said by the earlier students, but no one has ever listened. No matter what the examiner tells you, this course IS repetition. The only new part is the deepened knowledge about a body part.» (Small extent)
- A lot of studies by our own» (Some extent)

7. To what extent has the course literature and other material been of help for your learning?

30 svarande

Small extent» 2 6%

Some extent» 12 40%

Large extent» 13 43%

Great extent» 3 10%

Genomsnitt: 2.56

- The material that helped us the most in our project was our own research, not the course literature. » (Some extent)
- Course literature see above. Searching for own literature helped the learning. » (Some extent)
- Referring to answer 6.» (Great extent)

8. How well did the course administration, web page, handouts etc work?

30 svarande

Very badly» 0 0%

Rather badly» 3 10%

Rather well» 19 63%

Very well» 8 26%

Genomsnitt: 3.16

- Confusing with ping pong. Some updates on ping pong appeared on studentportalen, some did not. Some updates on ping pong arrived as emails, some did not.» (Rather well)
- Too many students and a course not adjusted for it.» (Rather well)
- It was easy to access necessary material quickly.» (Rather well)
- To much e-mails» (Rather well)

Study climate

9. How were the opportunities for asking questions and getting help?

30 svarande

Very poor» 0 0%

Rather poor» 2 6%

Rather good» 17 56%

Very good» 8 26%

I did not seek help» 3 10%

Genomsnitt: 3.4

- No constructive critisism from Anna-Lisa. It was like she didn"t listen when we had our presentations. » (Rather poor)
- Hard to get in touch with the course administration and I believe that emails should be answered more frequently by the staff. At least if it is not possible to meet them in person.» (Rather poor)
- Sometimes the examiner was not available. And only one opportunity for project feedback was given during the project period. » (Rather good)
- The groups helped each other mostly but I suppose you could get help from Maral and Anna-Lisa as well.» (I did not seek help)

10. How well has cooperation between you and your fellow students worked?

30 svarande

Very poorly» 1 3%

Rather poorly» 1 3%

Rather well» 5 16%

Very well» 23 76%

I did not seek cooperation» 0 0%

Genomsnitt: 3.66

- Hatar Peter Sörensen, världen jobbigaste människa att arbeta med, han gör inte ett skit men tror att han gör allt.........!!!» (Very poorly)
- Low morale. » (Rather poorly)
- One member of the group did not do his part of the project, but it was worked out in the end.» (Rather well)

11. How was the course workload?

30 svarande

Too low» 1 3%

Low» 4 13%

Adequate» 17 56%

High» 8 26%

Too high» 0 0%

Genomsnitt: 3.06

- A lot of what was learnt during the course was a repetition of the previous course in ergonomics from 2nd year. » (Low)
- The first Ergonomics course in TD2 had a higher workload...» (Low)
- Maybe a little low.» (Adequate)
- High at the end, because of the project» (High)

12. How was the total workload this study period?

30 svarande

Too low» 0 0%

Low» 2 6%

Adequate» 18 60%

High» 9 30%

Too high» 1 3%

Genomsnitt: 3.3

- Rather nice, but actually stressful. One could never relax knowing that good work had been done, simply because there seemed to be work missing that you felt you should have done. Thus more stressing than a intense period where you always knew what had to be done. » (Low)
- The other course was was more demanding during some periods.» (Adequate)
- Läste 150%» (High)
- I performed masters thesis work 35 hours/week. » (Too high)

Summarizing questions

13. What is your general impression of the course?

30 svarande

Poor» 12 40%

Fair» 4 13%

Adequate» 4 13%

Good» 9 30%

Excellent» 1 3%

Genomsnitt: 2.43

- A 100% repetition of the BSc-course "Ergonomi".» (Poor)
- No new knowledge from this course. The same lectures as before and not very well composed.» (Poor)
- A repetition design for half the number of students attending. If it is to be kept compulsory it needs some redesign. » (Poor)
- Too much repetition! The course should not be created for students from other unis - the majority of the class took their bachelor here at TD...» (Poor)
- It did not feel necessary as it was so similar to the previous ergonomics course. Even the same planning of handin tasks and a project and guest lecturers. » (Poor)
- Way too similar to the bachelor ergonomics course. It provided some new and useful knowledge but it should be a greater difference according to me. More focus on the deeper studies and less "general" ergonomic knowledge which should be provided in the bachelor course, not at master level. » (Poor)
- Almost exclusively repetition from the basic course.» (Poor)
- I didn"t thought this course reached my expectations on an advanced course. I chose this course to get deeper knowledge than a already had and that i should be able to find myself. Most of the deeper theory I had to search for myself without any particular guidance. » (Poor)
- Helt meningslös, känner mig bara arg efter att ha gått kursen, har inte läst en så här dålig kurs på hur länge som helst. Det här ska ändå representera master nivå, inte nybörjar nybörjar nivå» (Poor)
- This course is almost the same that we did in our second year at TD. The same lectures are held, but in English instead of Swedish. I do not feel that I have learned anything new during this course since it is about the same as the previous one. Either the course content needs to changed or the course should not be obligatory, since to me the course was a waste of 7,5 points.» (Poor)
- As mentioned above, this is almost only repetition. It"s the basic course without any cognitive aspects, with a added body part assignment.» (Poor)
- very much repitition from previous course. Especially regarding study litterature and lectures. However, the project provided opportunity to dig deeper into the subject» (Fair)
- My general impression is that if you have taken the basic course in the bachelor years this course was all repetition which in my opinion is a waste of time, since we all want to learn new things in the area of ergonomics and only learn perhaps one new thing in 7 weeks. For the exchange students and the new students, maybe this course were good and meaningful, but I do not think that the entire course should be adjusted to fit them since the majority of the students taking the course have taken the basic course as well. » (Fair)
- Too Basic.» (Fair)
- It was a little bit too much alike the basic ergonomic corse. I would have wished it to be more insperational.» (Adequate)
- Change the content of the lectures, less repetition is needed so it will feel worth going to them.» (Good)
- I think it was to much repetition from basic physical ergonomics (for example error analysis, jack simulation) and too much focus on writing a full report (which takes quite a lot of time compared to what we learn from writing it). The lectures could also have been on a higher level, and more about subjects that we have not came across earlier, like human anatomy more in detail (which we now read about in basic course literature for medecine students).» (Good)
- I sometimes apprehended the content of the course as too much common sense, but I would guess that originates in the variation and complexity of the human body. And sometimes the methods presented were not really useful do to lack of reference values (example biomechanical analysis for body parts not including spine).» (Good)

14. What should definitely be preserved to next year?

- Thee projects PM and disposition»
- handin assginment is very good. but can be divided into some weeks not completed in one week. That causes uneven distribution of workload»
- The project, however, it could take another form»
- Examination as an extensive project»
- The project.»
- Size of the groups of the project. The project content. The presentations of anatomy in small groups.»
- The project, The lecture about body and mind (it was very good!). I think that the lectures in general are very good. »
- the specialized guest lectures»
- The major project.»
- More adapted after the education, some parts felt unnecessary like deeper study. And the course as a whole felt a little bit to much like a repetition of the 2nd years ergonomic course. »
- deeper theoretical study in anatomy»
- Individual assignments + group project = good»
- workload»
- The overall way of doing the project is good, to try different methods and compare and discuss the results. The small individual assignment in the begining of the course is also nessesary to be able to give us individual grades, and it was quite good too. I also really like that the focus is not on re-design.»
- The way to present the deeper theoretical analysis of a body part. Very good to do it in small groups. Which forced all members in the groups to learn the presentation content.»
- Inget»
- Anatomy part, and the general structure was pretty good as well, including the methods.»
- Perhaps the project, since it is a good way to practice methods. Although I don"t think that the report needs to cover that much as stated in the project description, some methods are not even applieable to some products/systems. For instance, why do a Jack if you have a product that is mostly operated through your fingers?»
- The project.»

15. What should definitely be changed to next year?

- The lecture of mind and body, there was poor scientific basis»
- Difficult to find a group if you couldn"t find one directly. This could be improved if one could see the created groups.»
- Litterature. Need a deeper, more advanced ergonomics book inad of using the same as in previous course.»
- I"m not sure. More insperation lectures?»
- Lectures that are meaningful in the sense that the content of them is not the same as in the basic course. Moreover, the body part presentation felt unnecessary since the research done in order to perform the presentation did not contribute to the project at all. »
- Callisto"s lecture is irrelevant to the course. I"m not interested in "being a tree reaching for the sky". »
- The content of the lectures. Content of lecture by Callisto felt very irrelevant.»
- Have some maximum number of pages for the final report becasue now we had different ideas of what"s enough in the project group. »
- weight of the project»
- The course content, more "advanced" ergonomics»
- the project layout. »
- The lectures! They should give more usable information. Too many of the lecturers had a too basic lecture. Some of them had the same lecture as in the first Ergonomics course. This is a Masters course - the level should be higher than the first one!»
- I think some of the lectures were on to low level, and things that are to many students very clear from the begining, were discussed to deep. And maby there is a way to not have so much focus on the written report, because this course was in general not a very big challange, but a lot of writing to be done and therefore a high workload. This goes to some extent for the individual assignment as well. Even though we might not had to work as much on that one as we did, the questions are posed like we should, and therefore i think it tool much more time for many of the students to complete the assignment than it was intended from your side.»
- It should not be a mandatory course for students that have read the ergonomics course in the first 3 years!»
- The lectures must be more suited to the fact that most students have a general ergonomics knowledge.»
- Better lectures, NOT only the same as in year 2 (basic ergonomics) but in english.»
- Hela kursen, ett mer ingående projekt arbete med fokus på design ur ett ergonomiskt perspektiv där man utvecklar en produkt och annalyserar problemet ergonomiskt i detalj. Inte som nu när man följer ett antal uppgifter och gör dem sen e man klar, skit töntigt och löjligt så man dör och blir omottiverad från första dagen.»
- Maybe present some more pros and cons for each of the methods. Example, biomechanical analysis sometimes lacks reference values for specific body parts and may therefore not be useful. this could be in addition to identifying pros and cons for the specific project conducted.»
- The content of the lectures (nothing new were presented to us compared to the course we took in the second year at TD). The study of the bodypart- we all know the basics of how our body works. Although it could in some way be included in the report, but I do not think that there need to be a presentation (especially since there were many presentations that concerned the same bodypart) The hand in exercises- I learned nothing new from these exercises that I have not learned in the first Ergonomics course.»
- The content as a whole! See the comment under "6. To what extent has the teaching been of help for your learning?". Try to add something new, especially if this is supposed to be mandatory!»

16. Additional comments

- same course as on the the bachelor level, pretty much a waste of time»
- No»
- Do a thorough comparison to the ergonomics course that is before this one to avoid having the same knowledge transferred. This course should be ADVANCED and we already know the things from the first course, so if you think we need repetition, just tell us to read our old notes instead of having compulsury lectures on the same topic once again. »
- none»
- I expected a more advanced course.»
- Skämms över att den master utbildning jag sökte till kan erbjuda kurser av denna kvalitet. För jävligt! Ni får fan ta och bättra er om ni ska hålla någon som helst kvalitet på utbildningen.... pinsamt bara...»

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