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Hardware description and verification, Lp4 VT11, TDA956/DIT780

Status: Avslutad
Öppen för svar: 2011-05-30 - 2011-06-05
Antal svar: 16
Procent av deltagarna som svarat: 35%
Kontaktperson: Rebecca S»

Your own effort

1. How many hours per week did you spend on this course?*

16 svarande

At most 15 hours/week»0 0%
Around 20 hours/week»6 37%
Around 25 hours/week»5 31%
Around 30 hours/week»4 25%
At least 35 hours/week»1 6%

Genomsnitt: 3 (bidrar till totalt genomsnitt/jämförelseindex)

2. How large part of the teaching offered did you attend?*

16 svarande

0%»0 0%
25%»1 6%
50%»2 12%
75%»2 12%
100%»11 68%

Genomsnitt: 4.43 (bidrar till totalt genomsnitt/jämförelseindex)

Genomsnitt totalt för detta stycke: 3.71

Goals and goal fulfilment

3. How understandable are the course goals?

16 svarande

I have not seen/read the goals»3 18%
The goals are difficult to understand»1 6%
The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer»5 31%
The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn»7 43%

Genomsnitt: 3

4. Are the goals reasonable considering your background and the number of credits?

14 svarande

No, the goals are set too low»1 7%
Yes, the goals seem reasonable»10 71%
No, the goals are set too high»3 21%

Genomsnitt: 2.14

5. Do you think that we should change the prerequisites of the course, based on your personal experience?

16 svarande

No»6 37%
Yes»7 43%
Don"t know»3 18%

Genomsnitt: 1.81

- Maybe you could stress more that a background in functional programming would be very helpful.» (No)
- To know haskell and vhdl, at least some basic stuff» (Yes)
- 1st week of the course should start with basics of Functional programming(for IESD students) and VHDL basics(for non IESD students).» (Yes)
- The course involves some fairly heavy programming in vhdl, haskell and learning to make assertions in psl, which gave quite a workload for if you are only familiar with one of them.» (Yes)
- Make a course in functional programming a requirement so the course doesn"t need to concern itself with "this is Haskell, here"s how you write Hello World..." Also, perhaps make the course Logic in Computer Science a requirement, since that course covers most of the model checking in detail.» (Yes)
- Lots of students were not familiar with temporal logic. I think the course "Logic in computer science" MUST be a prerequisite for this course. Moreover, it should be stated that this course is more of a CS course, not an EE one. Lost of EE students dropped the course simply because they didn"t expect this amount of CS material.» (Yes)

6. Did the examination assess whether you have reached the goals?

16 svarande

(på denna fråga var det möjligt att välja flera svarsalternativ)

No, not at all»0 0%
To some extent»3 18%
Yes, definitely»9 56%
I don"t know/have not been examined yet»4 25%

- To have an entire take-home exam on prifix networks after one lecture about it is rather harsh. (Especially when nobody in the class had ever heard about them before!?) Also 2 labs, 2 th exams and a written exam is a bit much.» (To some extent)
- I done take home exams, and I think there were really great. I don"t know about the final exam, because I haven"t participated in the exam yet.» (I don"t know/have not been examined yet)

Teaching and course administration

7. To what extent has the teaching been of help for your learning?

16 svarande

Small extent»1 6%
To some extent»1 6%
Large extent»11 68%
Great extent»3 18%

Genomsnitt: 3

- It should be more oriented towards examples and how to think rather than how the tools use.» (To some extent)

8. To what extent has the course literature and other material been of help for your learning?

16 svarande

Small extent»4 25%
Some extent»5 31%
Large extent»5 31%
Great extent»2 12%

Genomsnitt: 2.31

- The tutorials were good, but the papers were hard to read.» (Some extent)
- Lava tutorial and "intro to PSL".» (Large extent)

9. To what extent did the PSL Lab contribute to your learning?

16 svarande

Not at all»1 6%
A little»2 12%
Reasonably much»10 62%
Very much»3 18%

Genomsnitt: 2.93

- But still it is necessary because the supervisor can answer questions face to face, which is really helpful» (A little)

10. To what extent did the PSL Take Home Exam contribute to your learning?

16 svarande

Not at all»2 12%
A little»0 0%
Reasonably much»7 43%
Very much»7 43%

Genomsnitt: 3.18

- I would have wanted more feedback on what was wrong and how it could be changed to have earned better points on the exam.» (Very much)

11. To what extent did the Lava Lab contribute to your learning?

16 svarande

Not at all»1 6%
A little»0 0%
Reasonably much»10 62%
Very much»5 31%

Genomsnitt: 3.18

12. To what extent did the Lava Take Home Exam contribute to your learning?

16 svarande

Not at all»3 18%
A little»0 0%
Reasonably much»10 62%
Very much»3 18%

Genomsnitt: 2.81

- The lava take home exam were very much harder than the lab I thought. » (Reasonably much)

13. Did you find the guest lectures useful?

16 svarande

No»2 12%
Yes»12 75%
Did not attend»2 12%

Genomsnitt: 2

- Most of the lectures was interesting and was talking about the business world, but it seemed a bit unrelevant with the course» (No)
- We just love all the guest lectures in this course :)» (Yes)
- Guest lectures are always welcome and interesting.» (Yes)
- Satnam"s lecture did not help, but was very interesting. Koen"s lecture was both helpful and interesting.» (Yes)

14. How well did the course administration, web page, handouts etc work?

16 svarande

Very badly»0 0%
Rather badly»2 12%
Rather well»7 43%
Very well»7 43%

Genomsnitt: 3.31

- I have no love for the fire system what so ever.» (Rather badly)
- Last-minute notices were quite common in the course. Students had to check the news section of the website to see if a schedule has been changed, if a lab is cancelled or if a deadline has been extended!» (Rather badly)
- Some times that the lecture was cancelled or changed we got informed really late» (Rather well)
- Good course organisation!» (Very well)

Study climate

15. How were the opportunities for asking questions and getting help?

15 svarande

Very poor»1 6%
Rather poor»1 6%
Rather good»5 33%
Very good»7 46%
I did not seek help»1 6%

Genomsnitt: 3.4

- There was only one lab slot and there were to many people asking for help so you could not get help during that lab slot. » (Very poor)
- 2 hours a week scheduled time and neither the teacher nor the teaching assistant was at school for a very long period of time, though this was partially due to illness.» (Rather poor)
- It would be better with more supervised lab sessions, or just to place the ones that are at an earlier time of the week.» (Rather good)

16. How well has cooperation between you and your fellow students worked?

16 svarande

Very poorly»0 0%
Rather poorly»0 0%
Rather well»4 25%
Very well»10 62%
I did not seek coopeation»2 12%

Genomsnitt: 3.87

Summarizing questions

17. What is your general impression of the course?

16 svarande

Poor»1 6%
Fair»3 18%
Adequate»2 12%
Good»8 50%
Excellent»2 12%

Genomsnitt: 3.43

- I do not like when the teaching is also the examination. It puts a lot of unnecessary stress on you and forces you to solve problems the wrong way, trying to meet the deadline rather than trying to learn the subject and learn from the assigned tasks. » (Poor)
- I liked very much the clear connection to research that were in the course. Mary is also a very good and inspiring lecturer.» (Good)
- The course content was great, the lectures were good as well. But the course administration was not that great. Moreover, I think the » (Good)

18. The course covered two distinct topics (VHDL/PSL and Lava). Do you think this was a good idea?

16 svarande

No»0 0%
Yes»14 87%
Neutral»2 12%

Genomsnitt: 2.12

- However, both could have been covered in greater depth by requiring participants to be familiar with Haskell (through Introduction to Functional Programming) and LTL/CTL (through Logic in Computer Science) beforehand.» (Yes)
- The level of the Lava was a bit high for beginners I think» (Neutral)

19. Would you prefer to concentrate on one of them and if so which?

16 svarande

No keep both»11 68%
VHDL/PSL»5 31%
Lava»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.31

- This course is really interesting but more time consuming, hence it needs to reduce the quantity of lab and take home assignments.» (No keep both)
- Keep both. But let the Lava be more a like a trial. Whit that I mean that for the labs and take home exams it should be easier.» (No keep both)

20. The course deliberately covered both theory and practice. Do you think this was a good idea?

16 svarande

No»0 0%
Yes»10 62%
Neutral»6 37%

Genomsnitt: 2.37

- Practice really helps to motivate you and show exactly why the theory is useful. They reinforce each other in a nice way.» (Yes)
- You need some practice to learn a programming language, but I think most people who took the course wanted the focus to be more in depth of what to think of during verifyfication.» (Neutral)

21. Would you prefer to concentrate on one of them and if so which?

16 svarande

No keep both»10 62%
Theory»1 6%
Practice»5 31%

Genomsnitt: 1.68

- Keep both, but more emphasize on theory would be nice.» (No keep both)

22. The course was intended to give some insight into research. Do you think it succeeded?

16 svarande

No»0 0%
Yes»10 62%
Neutral»6 37%

Genomsnitt: 2.37

- To some extent» (Yes)
- I really liked this connection.» (Yes)

23. Has the course increased your interest in research?

16 svarande

No»2 12%
Yes»9 56%
Neutral»5 31%

Genomsnitt: 2.18

- Absolutely not!» (No)

24. What should definitely be preserved to next year?

- The course»
- All»
- The structure of the course. lab-take home exam + lab-take home exam + exam.»
- The guest lectures and the combination of theory and practice.»
- FIFO lab was nice.»
- mary"s enthusiasm:)»
- Mary! And the guest lecture by Koen. And also that the course takes up both PSL and Lava. »
- take home exam and labs»
- Labs»

25. What should definitely be changed to next year?

- I don"t know, I found the course difficult to follow, and had to do a lot of effort to keep up. This was because I didn"t have adequate background for the course, so I am not the appropriate person to propose changes»
- Reduce the quantity of assignments (LAVA LAB and LAVA TH exam)»
- Rename the course Tools for Hardware Description and Verification because that"s what this course is about. »
- It is, in my opinion, way too much to have 5 examination moments in one 7,5 weeks long course. The high workload at the end of the course with lab deadline, takehome exam deadline and ordinary exam in 2,5 weeks made it hard for me to find as much time as I wanted to spend on my second course.»
- More prerequisites, to go deeper into the course"s main topics.»
- The take home exams. I do not like the idea of beeing examined during learning. First I want to be learned, then I want to try it out and then I could be examined. The take home exams can be just individual labs instead of exams. »
- If you gonna have a take home exam on prefix networks, then spend some time explaining what they really are.»
- More supervised labs. Maybe a bit more "easy reading" on the subject and not only the research papers (if that is available).»
- more examples on ctl ,ctl* and ttl.Some additonal slodes explaining what exactly ctl ctl* ttl are in some more detail.»
- Course administration, and the exams. The las take home exam was scheduled very close to the exam period, which was a very bad idea.»

26. Additional comments

- I think the structure with lab+exam -> lab+exam -> exam should be used in more courses!»
- Saddly I didn"t manage to make it to the first VHDL deadline so I had to drop the course.»
- Jasper"s implementation is not clearly documented in the available materials. There were some tiny yet annoying syntactical differences which took me hours to figure out, by try and error. A Jasper"s PSL full document(and not only a concise cheat sheet) is very appreciated.»

Additional comments

Genomsnitt totalt för alla frågor: 3.71
Beräknat jämförelseindex: 0.67

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