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ACED-PAT 2011
Status: Avslutad Öppen för svar: 2011-03-15 - 2011-04-04 Antal svar: 25 Procent av deltagarna som svarat: 60% Kontaktperson: Ronnie Andersson» Utbildningsprogram som genomför enkäten: Kemiteknik 300 hp Utbildningsprogram studenten tillhör: Kemiteknik 300 hp
1. Did the course PM contain enough information?(på denna fråga var det möjligt att välja flera svarsalternativ)- ja»
- yes»
- Ok, but could have been better»
- Yes, I think it"s enough»
- Not really, it could be more clear about projects.»
- Yes»
- Yes»
- yes»
- No, it looked like we would have 6 consultations but it meant 6 hours. »
- yes»
- yes»
- yes»
- Yes, It did»
- yes»
- yes»
- Yes!»
- yes»
- Yes»
- Yes»
- Yes. I think it is enough.»
- Yes»
- yes»
- yes»
2. Was the course schedule clear?- ja»
- yes»
- Yes»
- Yes, it was»
- Yes»
- Yes»
- Yes»
- clear»
- yes,very»
- yes»
- yes»
- Yes, It was
»
- yes»
- yes»
- No! It was hard to follow and did not have a clear structure! Needs to be improved!!»
- yes»
- Yes»
- Yes»
- Yes. It is»
- Yes»
- A bit confusing if the lecture were going to be a democalculation or consultation time»
- yes»
- Yes»
- yes»
3. Ebooks was used as complementary material to the textbook. What is your opinion on Ebooks?- Den ena delen av mixingkapitlena känns alldeles för teknisk och detaljerad av vad jag antog att jag borde kunna efter att ha varit på mixing föreläsningen»
- It did not enough.»
- Bad, less likely to read them. Would have been much better if they were handed out»
- The E-books sometimes were not neccessary, but they seem to be good as the auxiliary references.»
- Good! We spend several thousands on course-material each year, and it"s noot good if there is a conflict between "cheapest" and "best" material.»
- Best is to have material from the institution, where only relevant information is included. In the case of having to buy a expensive book where only a fraction is needed then ebooks are better.»
- it helps us a lot»
- It was okej but the one about mixing which was 80 pages was too extensive.»
- It"s good to not always have to buy books.»
- yes. it gave me more information.»
- it"s okay, i can read on the computer instead of buying a book or printing out a lot of materials.»
- The ebooks were really help for understanding the course.»
- It is good to have ebooks instead of textbooks»
- it is ok to use e book»
- Pretty good!»
- good that you don"t have to buy everything»
- Addition of ebooks on the course homepage was appreciated and useful. Comfortable use»
- Good»
- Ebook is good. However, I think that it is better if we have all necessary material for the course in only one book. If that is the case, it easy for students to study.»
- They are good»
- Ok»
- should be more clear about the content»
4. Would you like to have an additional Textbook or chapter from an Ebook on the topic PAT?- ja»
- Lecture out come questions at end of each lecture.»
- Yes, the lecture didnt give that much. The powerpoint slides are not that informative either»
- No,it was enough for me at least.»
- Yes.»
- Yes»
- Yes, definitely. The lecture not conducted well and the slides were not good for repetition at all.»
- OF COURSE, i can not understand just by reading the handout. I think we need more explanation than just a picture. It will be good to have some material in PAT»
- YES!
The handouts (powerpoint pictures)is not sufficient, PAT feels like a big black box and I am still wondering was it really is.»
- yes»
- yes. i need the additional text about PAT»
- no»
- Yes, I would»
- yes»
- yes more information about PAT could be useful because if we miss the lecture because we have an overlapping time in the scedule then we miss some information for a full understanding»
- Yes! This should be priority one! To have a lecture on PAT for 4 hour from a guest lecture is really good but it is hard to remember everything and if you dont have good notes it is impossible to remember the essential parts!! »
- Yes! The material on the topic PAT was not good. Especially if you missed the lession, and even thou i were there, i didn"t have a lot of help from the material.»
- Yes, since it is not possible to note everything during the lecture and handouts didi not contain enough information to answer exam questions»
- Yes»
- I prefer to have an additional textbook. We just had handout for PAT. I found it is very difficult to understand material with only handout.»
- Yes, some sort of litterature on PAT would be a great improvement»
- Yes! The PAT-Material is very poor»
- Yes»
- yes »
5. Is the number of lectures enough?- ja»
- Lecture silds should be uploaded on home page.»
- I dont know. I didnt like the structure of most of the lectures, with more or less just a short introduction to the different parts»
- I think it is.»
- Yes.»
- Yes»
- Not at all. If detailed knowledge is required then more lectures with detailed information should be given. Most lectures were only about calculation which is just half of the exam. It is always easier to remember theory if i is explaind, not just read.»
- Doesn"t matter, we have to spend a lot of time to study by our self though»
- Yes»
- yes»
- yes»
- yes
»
- Yes, it is»
- yes»
- yes»
- Yes it was enough lectures»
- It would be very useful to have more lectures, since in this course the greatest theooretical part wasn"t covered in lectures»
- Yes»
- I think we should have more lectures so that students will have chances to understand in detail about subjects which is included in the course.»
- yes»
- Yes»
- yes»
- Yes but would prefer copies of the slides like we reciev in all other courses»
- totally enough»
6. Is the number of democalculations enough?- vet inte om antalet är för lite men innehållet i de borde vara totalt annorlunda de uppgifter som gicks igenom var barnsligt enkla och inga uppgifter vi skulle räkna själva var ens av liknande svårighetsgrad.»
- yes»
- Yes»
- Yes, it is.»
- Yes.»
- Yes»
- No because some demos with theory questions from exams is needed.»
- enough»
- Yes»
- yes»
- yes»
- yes»
- Yes, It is»
- yes»
- yes but the teacher should try to explain more what is he doing instead of only writting the calculation on the board because that"s not enough to understand the topic»
- Yes! You might want to add another one or two for consultation/democalculations!»
- Yes, but it would be better if calculations presented by teacher were explained not in that brief manner»
- Yes»
- Yes. It is»
- yes»
- Yes»
- yes»
- Yes»
- yes enough»
7. Is the number of consultations enough?- ja»
- yes»
- Yes»
- Yes, it is.»
- Yes.»
- Yes»
- No, there should be at least as many hours of consultation as there are demos.»
- yes»
- Yes»
- yes»
- yes»
- yes»
- Yes, It is»
- yes»
- yes but the consultation time was proposed to soon compare to the revision week but it was correct afterward.»
- No add one or two more»
- yes»
- An additional consultation should be scheduled closer to the exam»
- Yes. It is»
- yes»
- Yes»
- yes»
- Thank you for adding one in the end»
- it is very good»
8. Is laboration 1 (mixing) good for the course?- ja»
- v.good»
- Yes»
- Yes, it was nice.»
- Yes, very good. Basic, but gives a good understanding.»
- Yes, verry good»
- Yes, but it would be good to get something to help with repetition after.»
- yes. it gave me a view of real mixing.»
- Yes.»
- yes, it"s good to see the mixing and different impellers in reality »
- yes»
- naw, not really...»
- Yes, It is»
- yes»
- yes»
- Yes!»
- yes»
- yes»
- Yes»
- Yes. It is»
- yes»
- Very good»
- yes»
- Very»
- yes but no report included»
9. Is laboration 2 (PAT) good for the course?- ja»
- v.good»
- Yes»
- Yes,it is.»
- Good, but could be improved. The connection between laboration and results is not really clear.»
- Yes»
- Yes, but could be conducted with more advanced equipment.»
- no comment»
- Yes but the seminar tasks should be explain more. »
- yes, absolutely»
- yes»
- a lot of experimental design that is not a part of the course»
- Not really»
- yes»
- not really because we should first have an explain on how the NIR is working because during the lab we didn"t understand the mesure that we were taking»
- no»
- yes»
- Yes»
- Yes. It is»
- yes»
- Yes but the assignment for the seminarium could have been more clear»
- yes, it was too good.»
- Yes»
- very good»
10. What is your opinion on the project work?- alldeles för kort tid för att kunna göra uppgiften på ett bra sätt samt sätta sig in i vad man egentligen ska göra.»
- it is good.It must hv some credits»
- Didnt give much. Would have been better with a short hand in report»
- I don"t have any idea.»
- Hard to understand what"s expected, some help with calculations could be good.»
- Its okey, but the task was put up to late»
- Awful. Assignments came out too late and it was hard to find someone to ask for help.»
- good»
- It would be rellay good if there could be a 2 hours computer session with teacher the week before the seminar so we could get help with the programs (modde, SIMPCA ...) and to interpret the tasks. »
- very different from group to group on the work load, some groups had a lot to do and others not that much»
- it was simple project»
- project work?? to the lab??»
- -»
- It is good have project that too in groups which involves different ideas from different students.»
- It was of less relevance for the course! It is much better to analyze the results rather than doing different task which has correlations to other courses. »
- hard to understand what to do. I did not understand what the other groups said at all. »
- It is interesting and added new skills and knowledge»
- Interesting»
- It is good project, but we did not have enough time to prepare it carefully. »
- not necessary. didn"t contribute to my learning.»
- Very unfare»
- none»
11. What about the workload, would it be possible to add 10-20 pages on turbulence to improve the Mixing part?- ja»
- Mixing and turbulence study materials is too much .only relevant sections should mentioned. »
- If that is something considered important, then yes»
- It might be good.»
- I think so.»
- Yes»
- Not if such detailed knowledge of the theory is needed as seen in the exam. It was not said how important the detailed theory was and more theory will only make the course worse.»
- If its needed then why not. But i suggest 10 pages is enough, no more. since in the exam i found about that topic. Wonder if i had extra material. But this course is really take our time to do a lot of exercises and reading. »
- Yes, if some of the 80 pages (C&R I think it was)are taken away. They are too extensive.»
- yes»
- the workload was not too high and it needs improvement in the mixing part»
- rather not»
- Yes, it is»
- yes»
- no i don"t think so because there is already a lot of information to go through»
- Yes it would be possible!»
- yes it would.»
- It would probably be too much»
- No»
- Yes. I think it is better if we have more pages to improve Mixing part.»
- yes»
- Yes its possible. The work load is quite low»
- maybe»
12. Do you think this course is relevant for your education?- ja, när man ser vad som egentligen ingår i kursen»
- yes»
- Not the PAT part (at least as it was introduced now), but otherwise good. This course need to have some better structure, I was a bit confused in the beginning. »
- Yes, definitely.»
- Yes.»
- Yes»
- Yes, a bit. However it feels like a course with the unimportant things which could not be fitted in courses from the bachelor level. I would rather see advanced chemical engineering instead of additional chemical engineering which this course was.»
- Very»
- It wasn"t so advanced chemical engineering that I thought. Mixing, absoprtion and crystallisation was ok, but drying was a bit too easy (at least at the lectures and demoexercises) and PAT was very poorly conducted, mostly because we had no material besides a powerpoint full with pictures. Also the seminar would be more rewarding if there is a 2 hours computer session with teacher before.»
- Would have been better if something other then crystallization was new in the course»
- yes»
- yes»
- yes, I do»
- absolutely»
- not really only the absorption part was relevent in my case»
- Some parts might be relevant, some are not very usefull!»
- yes»
- Yes»
- Yes. I do»
- absolutely»
- Yes but the material for the drying part is very similar to the material in Chalmers basic courses. »
- yes»
- Yes»
- yes very interesting course»
13. Would you recommend the course to other students?- nej, eftersom kursens föreläsningar och räkneövningar inte ger någon som helst hjälp till att lära sig kursens innehåll.»
- off course »
- Maybye»
- Yes»
- Yes.»
- Yes»
- No. A cuorse with this hard to grasp material, few useful lectures, an exam with so much harder calculations than any calculations found in the book and detailed theory questions is nothing I would recommend.»
- sure»
- Yes»
- maybe»
- yes»
- yeah...»
- yes, I would»
- yes»
- Depends on what you are interested in but i might recommend it...»
- i"m not sure. i didn"t like the structure of the course. Different part that don"t stick together.»
- Yes»
- Yes.»
- yes, good general chemical engineering knowledge»
- yes»
- Yes»
- yes»
14. Do you have any other suggestions for improvement?- Jag tycker kursen har väldigt konstigt upplägg. Alla föreläsningar och räkneövningar går igenom saker som vi redan läst men när vi sedan ska beräkna uppgifter själva så är det på saker vi aldrig hört talas om tidigare så man måste läsa in hela materialet själv i boken helt utan hjälp från föreläsningarna. Efter att ha gått på föreläsningarna trodde jag kursen inte ens skulle vara värd att plugga till eftersom jag redan kunde alla saker som tagits upp på föreläsningarna men efter att ha fått en chock över vad som egentligen ingår i kursen måste jag säga att andra saker borde tas upp under föreläsningarna och räkneövningarna så man blev mer förbered vad kursen egentligen går ut på. Det enda som gav en relativt bra överblick var absorptionsavsnittet.»
- Put study questions at the end of each lecture to elaborate study out come.»
- Better lectures. The lectures worked as introduction to the different parts, I would want the lecturer to talk about everyting important (this complaint is not for absorption)»
- I think it was a standard course with reasonable workload.»
- Communicate the expectations better, otherwise overall good. Good lectures and attitude from all the course staff!»
- Why have hard cruxes in every calculation in the exam? With this difficult calculations 5 h is too short! Maybe one of the three this hard but not all three!
And do we really need to know 1 atm in Torr?
To many Theory questions. Make more like A1a and A1b instead of A1 and A2.»
- the exam is so confusing and tricky.
maybe in the example or demo calculation part you can provide us more tricky question so we will not feel surprise in the exam. »
- It would be nice is the lectures about mixing could contain more thoery and not so many pictures and movies. Go through more material in the lectures (Absorption exclued). »
- The PAT lecture notes could be improved a lot»
- it would be better if the demonstration of the exercises become mandatory project and we get points from that.»
- no»
- -»
- no»
- No. I don"t.»
- we are not satisfied from exercises,the teacher solved easy questions in the class,and in exam the questions were completely different.we need improvement in it. kindly check the exam
questions and compare these with the exercises solved by the teacher.there is no similarity.i think may be some of the student have solved some questions, but i think they have already strong back ground in it. kindly do some thing in it. we are completely satisfied from theory part, but not from exercises.»
- Publish the slides. Do not explain the basis in materialbalance, everyone should no it and it makes us feel like it is not a difficult course (please dont say that eigther that it is an easy course) and lower the ambitions of the class. Otherwise thank you for the course I like the work of all persons involved in the course.»
- the exam should be more regular.»
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