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Simulation of complex systems 2010, FFR120

Status: Avslutad
Öppen för svar: 2010-12-13 - 2011-01-20
Antal svar: 15
Procent av deltagarna som svarat: 50%
Kontaktperson: Martin Nilsson Jacobi»
Utbildningsprogram som genomför enkäten: Teknisk fysik 300 hp

Your own effort

1. How many hours per week did you spend on this course?

We mean total time, that is, it comprises the time you spent in class and the time you spent on your own work. Try to estimate the average time over the entire study period.

15 svarande

At most 15 hours/week»2 13%
Around 20 hours/week»6 40%
Around 25 hours/week»3 20%
Around 30 hours/week»3 20%
At least 35 hours/week»1 6%

Genomsnitt: 2.66

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- Course Project took a lot of time.» (At least 35 hours/week)

2. How large part of the teaching offered did you attend?

15 svarande

0%»0 0%
25%»2 13%
50%»1 6%
75%»4 26%
100%»8 53%

Genomsnitt: 4.2

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- Did not attend computer labs at all.» (75%)
- I think since the teaching materials covered in lectures were not directly relevant to project/home works my attendance in the class was absolute useless. » (75%)
- 90%» (100%)

Goals and goal fulfilment

The course syllabus states the course goals in terms of learning outcomes, i.e., knowledge, skills and attitudes to be acquired by the student during the course.

3. How understandable are the course goals?

15 svarande

I have not seen/read the goals»4 26%
The goals are difficult to understand»3 20%
The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer»5 33%
The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn»3 20%

Genomsnitt: 2.46

- Probably one of the biggest problem with this course is that it"s a kind of hard to know what one should understand.» (I have not seen/read the goals)
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- It has been clear to me what I have to learn, but not always what i have to do.» (The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn)

4. Are the goals reasonable considering your background and the number of credits?

Answer this this question and the succeeding one, only if you do know the course goals.

14 svarande

No, the goals are set too low»2 14%
Yes, the goals seem reasonable»11 78%
No, the goals are set too high»1 7%

Genomsnitt: 1.92

- Much of the course is repeat, even if I throughly enjoyed the lectures. » (No, the goals are set too low)
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5. Did the examination assess whether you have reached the goals?

15 svarande

No, not at all»0 0%
To some extent»8 53%
Yes, definitely»5 33%
I don"t know/have not been examined yet»2 13%

Genomsnitt: 2.6

- CA:s wasn"t part in my examination since my project focused on other simulations. However, the part about CA:s were rather simple and I don"t think it was necessary to examine.» (To some extent)
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Teaching and course administration

6. What do you think of Martin as a teacher

15 svarande

Very good»4 26%
Good»6 40%
So and so»2 13%
Bad»3 20%
Really bad»0 0%
No opinion»0

Genomsnitt: 2.26

- Open ended questions and student participation is always good. » (Very good)
- Martin seem to be very interested in what he teaches and he seem to be concerned that the students learn something.» (Very good)
- The only thing I found slightly annoying is that sometimes some excessive time is spent in topic introductions and organizational questions (sometimes too detailed in my point of view).» (Good)
- Perhaps better defined course litterature. I"m thinking of the second homework-problem - I missed your lecture and the wikipedia-link was not a very good substitute.» (Good)
- I felt that I didnt learn much from the classes. They were usually intresting, but I would like to learn some concrete methods for simulation and things to think about when approaching problems like these.» (So and so)
- Sorry, but lectures were very slow and low in information content. The content of the entire course could easily have been covered in one lecture by Bernhard. (Though that might say more about the pace of Bernhards lectures.)» (Bad)
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- Martin is not good teacher at all since he don"t prepare the materials for teaching in formal and proper way. Lectures didn"t provide any help for course project. » (Bad)

7. Mention something that you think was good with the lectures

- They were fun. Relaxed. »
- Lot"s of videos»
- 1. Lectures describe state of the art in modeling, 2. Truly interdisciplinary topics, 3. Home problems and projects are very relevant to the contents of the course,»
- Interesting and motivating for the projects»
- The talks were intresting.»
- Questions to stuents. »
- Having discussion-like lectures is a good idea in general, but since many students are not used to this it sometimes was a bit problematic.»
- quick but extensive overviews into different areas guided by someone who knows what he speaks about. Most of the lectures left you convinced that you could go home and implement it right away.»
- The lectures have a good combination of background, theory and illustrations.»
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- He has one unique positive point since during the lectures when he asks a question he gives time and really motivate students to think about the question and then he pay attention to student answers which I is really good. »

8. Mention something that Martin should do different next year

- They were a bit too fun. And too relaxed. »
- Describe more "tools" used in modeling.»
- If the home problems are loosly defined they can"t be expected to yield a highly strict and stringent result... If there is only one correct way to make the home problem then one can"t be that vague in the problem statement.. And as people who did exactly the same things got 4 and fail resppectively... When the one who failed more exactly specified how things had been done... Not specifying exactly how you have solved a problem shouldn"t be rewarded as such... Then one only learns to be vague in describing how one soloved the problem...»
- Focus more on fewer subjects and treat them more thoroughly.»
- Pronounce traffic jams as traffic jams rather than traffic yams. Sweet potatoes are rarely a big problem in urban transportation. »
- Have the crucial lectures for the home problems well before the dead line. For example, have the network lecture before the subject that was between the cellular automatons and networks.»
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- Change the home works to be more precise The homework questions must ask and describe what the students are expected to do (Student are not Sherlock Holmes to figure out that what are they asked to solve,...)»

9. What is your opinion on the home problems?

15 svarande

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Too easy»1 6%
Too hard»0 0%
Good level»9 60%
They took too much time»0 0%
The time requirements was well balanced»5 33%
I learned a lot from the exercises»6 40%
I did not lear that much by doing the home problems»3 20%
The questions where too vague»7 46%
I liked the open ended formulations of the questions»5 33%
No opinion»0

- Network problem was OK. Straight forward. The Schelling question were was as open ended, but the results had to be according to what Martin thought what was interesting. That"s pretty retarded. And the grading was of course completely arbitrary. Some guys worked together and wrote pretty much exactly the same things. One got 3 and one got 5. So use U/G next time. Schelling was a big waste of time. Network thing was OK.» (I did not lear that much by doing the home problems, The questions where too vague)
- From my point of view the home problems could have had some (optional?) tough points / questions.» (Too easy, The time requirements was well balanced, I did not lear that much by doing the home problems, I liked the open ended formulations of the questions)
- As I mentioned earlier similiar approaches should be graded in the same way...» (The questions where too vague)
- The graduation of the first home problem was a joke. Different grades for exactly the same work. But the question were also very vague. No problem with the second home problem.» (The time requirements was well balanced, I learned a lot from the exercises, The questions where too vague)
- I like the open ended formulations, but to be fair, it requires that that the grading also is open minded, not looking for specific results and methods to use. Also I think the grading of the sheets was not always consistent with what you have told us in class. i.e keeping the second report to 1 page and getting deduction for not including plots.» (Good level, The time requirements was well balanced, I did not lear that much by doing the home problems, I liked the open ended formulations of the questions)
- The "too vague" comment does not apply to the first homework. But my feelings on the second can be due to the missed lecture.» (Good level, The time requirements was well balanced, I learned a lot from the exercises, The questions where too vague)
- The open ended formulations are good but it could be good to point out that the questions just are guidances and that the students are expected to figure out what the main point of the task is. As it was now it was easy to misinterpret the questions.» (Good level, I learned a lot from the exercises, The questions where too vague, I liked the open ended formulations of the questions)
- The home problems were interesting.» (Good level, I learned a lot from the exercises, I liked the open ended formulations of the questions)
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- The best answer is they waste me a lot of time. Non coherent vague questions without any aim of learning.» ()

10. What is your opinion on the computer labs?

15 svarande

(på denna fråga var det möjligt att välja flera svarsalternativ)

Too easy»0 0%
Too hard»0 0%
Good level»10 66%
I learned a lot from the exercises»6 40%
I did not lear that much by doing the home problems»1 6%
I would have liked more computer labs»1 6%
There where too many computer labs»0 0%
No opinion»2

- The entire "guess what you should do" layout results in them taking a hell of a long time to do, without being very meaningful. Smaller tasks, better defined, which are quick and easy, would be a lot more useful. That way we could have learned more than 3 things during the course.» (I did not lear that much by doing the home problems)
- Good level, but I think we should have gone over some techniques in class before sitting down with the problem.» (Good level)
- I think before the lab of agent modeling(traffic simulation) you should give an introductory class» (Good level, I would have liked more computer labs)
- I like the solution with non compulsory computer labs, it somehow makes them more focused on learning.» (Good level, I learned a lot from the exercises)
- The first home problem maybe should have gotten a brief introduction in an earlier lecture. The two others were at a good level. They were possible to finnish in an hour, but it"s not fun to code that fast and think simultaneously. » (Good level, I learned a lot from the exercises)
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- The problem with lab was the students don"t know how they could find any relevance between labs and project/lectures (useless).» ()

11. To what extent has the teaching been of help for your learning?

14 svarande

Small extent»3 21%
Some extent»7 50%
Large extent»3 21%
Great extent»1 7%

Genomsnitt: 2.14

- I could take this course without any teacher making or offering my very own problem and solving it myself (no need for course). (How/Who can evaluate or challenge me what I have learned/done)» (?)
- Don"t think I learned anything.» (Small extent)
- I think that there is not that much what the teacher can do for the student to learn. For example, I think that our project work was the most effective from the teaching perspective, because: 1. We have chosen some area that we didn"t know very well, therefore we learn many new things from that area, and not only from the main course subject, 2. There are many things that one needs to try on his / her own,» (Some extent)
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- Very interesting.» (Large extent)

12. How well did the course administration, web page, handouts etc work?

15 svarande

Very badly»3 20%
Rather badly»2 13%
Rather well»8 53%
Very well»2 13%

Genomsnitt: 2.6

- I give it "very badly" as a direct result of that the only way to reach the web page was to google "simulation of complex systems chalmers", visit the web page with 2004 in the URL, which was ofcourse the web page for 2008, change the 2004 in the URL to 2009, to end up in the 2010 web page. But, of course, the web page wasn"t always up. Plus, you should have read this evaluation form through before sending it out...» (Very badly)
- Took quite a while to find the url to the homepage. Also, there was confusion with multiple data for the second homeproblem» (Very badly)
- Very old computer server a lot of confusing links to get access to the latest web page (Dealing with the Minotaur in Greek Myth)» (Very badly)
- Why not link to the correct homepage at the first place? Good to have pdf-returns of the home problems.» (Rather badly)
- Not until study week 6 did I notice the top right corner of the home page has a link to material etc. This position is rather well hidden and could do with a more obvious placing. » (Rather badly)
- There could be a better link to the actual webpage somewhere.. » (Rather well)
- The homepage did not contain enough information regarding the project. Otherwise it was fine.» (Rather well)
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- very good mark for the efficient correcting of the home problems.» (Very well)

13. How did you like the project work?

15 svarande

Very good»3 23%
Good»8 61%
So and so»2 15%
Bad»0 0%
Really bad»0 0%
Did not have him as supervisor»2

Genomsnitt: 1.92

- It would have been better if we would have learned something in the course that we could apply in the project...» (Good)
- It"s fun and interesting to chose an own project. It"s also valuable to be able to try a bigger simulation than those in examples classes and in handouts.» (Good)
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- At the beginning my group mates and I didn"t have any idea how to solve the project but eventually we solved the (expected/not expected) problems and come up with new Ideas then I have commented those ideas to someone (that I know him working at NASA) if they could find any practical implementation for those ideas or not and waiting for feedback. » (Did not have him as supervisor)

14. How was Claes as supervisor?

15 svarande

Very good»1 20%
Good»3 60%
So and so»1 20%
Bad»0 0%
Really bad»0 0%
Did not have him as supervisor»10

Genomsnitt: 2

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- Claes didn"t enforce his ideas, therefore we were able to develop our project freely. The meetings were short and regular.» (Good)
- Can"t really see the point of having a supervisor. Claes could Have been helpful but then we would have to introduce him in detail to the project and that would have taken up too much time for us both. And when it comes to planning of the project I feel old enough for doing that myself.. Maybe I would have felt differently if we would have encountered some problem that we ourselves couldn"t solve. » (So and so)

15. How was Oskar as supervisor?

15 svarande

Very good»0 0%
Good»4 80%
So and so»0 0%
Bad»0 0%
Really bad»1 20%
Did not have him as supervisor»10

Genomsnitt: 2.6

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- Trying to help but not useful. No place to compromise with him, very strict in project goals.» (Really bad)

16. How was Erik as supervisor?

13 svarande

Very good»4 57%
Good»3 42%
So and so»0 0%
Bad»0 0%
Really bad»0 0%
Did not have him as supervisor»6

Genomsnitt: 1.42

- He was good at pointing us in the right direction, because it can be hard to see the final project as you are just starting out.» (Very good)
- Managed to find new angles in our project that we had not thought of before.» (Very good)
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Study climate

17. How were the opportunities for asking questions and getting help?

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Very poor»0 0%
Rather poor»2 14%
Rather good»5 35%
Very good»4 28%
I did not seek help»3 21%

Genomsnitt: 3.57

- Asking question was good but the help was nonsense. » (?)
- I"m not saying it is bad, this is kind of the point, we are supposed to find information our selves.» (Rather poor)
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- Though I did not seek help, I still have a strong feeling that the opportunities for asking questions were very good.» (I did not seek help)

18. How well has cooperation between you and your fellow students worked?

14 svarande

Very poorly»0 0%
Rather poorly»0 0%
Rather well»6 42%
Very well»8 57%
I did not seek cooperation»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 3.57

- Swedes are almost grouping with themselves and the remaining (non swedes) with different backgrounds and group working experiences have to struggle,fight,shout,arguing,... to impress the group mates with their solution and ideas. It was much better if the groups were arranged by teacher with respect to their characteristics and study background. (It could be much better course if each of the students could figure out their potentials during group working) » (?)
- 1/3 did not do anything.» (Rather well)
- We organized our project work in agile-software-development-like fashion, which appeared to be rather effective.» (Very well)
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19. How was the course workload?

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Too low»0 0%
Low»1 6%
Adequate»11 73%
High»2 13%
Too high»1 6%

Genomsnitt: 3.2

- At least compared to Bernhards courses.» (Adequate)
- For me the project constituted the majority of the workload, therefore I consider the workload to be flexible, which is very good, i.e. those students who want higher workload can do more in scope of their projects.» (Adequate)
- If the workload had been much higher(over all courses total) I don"t think i would have survived this semester.» (Adequate)
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- Almost all workload was on the project so I guess this varies alot among students.» (High)
- The project workload was high since the project was not well defined at the beginning and at the end after testing a lot of different solutions we solved the problem (without any help) » (Too high)

20. How was the total workload this study period?

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Too low»0 0%
Low»1 6%
Adequate»6 40%
High»5 33%
Too high»3 20%

Genomsnitt: 3.66

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- about 50 h/week» (Adequate)
- see above.» (High)
- The coursework in this course suffered some due to some of the work in Bernhards course taking more time than I was prepared for.» (High)
- Not only did I take this course and computational biology, but I also took the Advanced Algorithms course and started with the Special Relativity course, as well as being active in student organizations. » (Too high)

Summarizing questions

21. What is your general impression of the course?

15 svarande

Poor»3 20%
Fair»1 6%
Adequate»3 20%
Good»7 46%
Excellent»1 6%

Genomsnitt: 3.13

- I was extremely disappointed with this course. I looked forward to learning about these things, especially agent based models. But reading the summary on wikipedia gave me more information than the entire course. » (Poor)
- I have the feeling that I really didnt learn much from this course. I got some more experience with programming which is always good, but thats about it. I thought many parts of the course were intresting but I want more details and theory to actually learn something.» (Poor)
- Garbage input (Define your project at the beginning of the term) --> Good Output(The time is finished the solution looks fine and defend your way of attacking the problem) » (Poor)
- Should be granted some extra lectures, because there is a huge potential in this subject.» (Adequate)
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- Good lectures, great project, two good home problems but one was presented and treated too bad.» (Good)
- It is good with a general course in complex systems.» (Good)

22. What should definitely be preserved to next year?

- Network theory part was OK.»
- 1. Approach to home problems and projects, 2. Interdisciplinary orientation,»
- the project»
- The computer labs and the homework.»
- projects»
- Most.»
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23. What should definitely be changed to next year?

- The course should be removed and replaced with a game theory or agent-based models course. If you want a project course, then add one, but not so early in the program, and not together with meaningless time consuming home-work tasks. Throw out the environment people, and crank up the pace.»
- no grades on HP"s. Just pass or not pass.»
- The definition and grading of the home problems»
- the way the questions are asked in HP1»
- Either more clear problem formulation in the homeproblems or a more open mindset when grading them. They way it was this year doesnt make sense. Take a few subjects and teach them thoroughly instead.»
- Perhaps some more structure in the projects. More clearly defined goals would help immensely, although since the limitations of the topics of the projects are very fuzzy, this is probably hard.»
- more content»
- I think maybe some recommendation of an introductory text about complex models maybe would be good. As it was now a list of literature was presented. It would have taken too much time to read all.»
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- Be more provided what subjects should be covered, group the students in proper way, ask and want the students to solve simple problems /questions correctly is better to want them difficult projects with unacceptable result.»

24. Additional comments

- It could be a good idea give some key classes (agent base modeling or networks) during the first period of the year. May be using some hours of complex systems seminar. In order to introduce the students in the topics. In that way we can think with more detail in the project, and the goals that we want to achieve. Because I think the most difficult part was choose the project. »
- Good course»
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- Please pay attention to the comments the students provide some of the student like me might speak clear and direct (pay more attention to the comments than answers) the strong language used in the comments shows how much the students are serious about the teaching quality. I am not a person to want every thing in ease and convenient but I expect the useful and correct materials should be covered during my studies otherwise it will be waste of life»

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