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Digital and multivariable control, SSY160, H10
Status: Avslutad Öppen för svar: 2010-12-06 - 2011-01-03 Antal svar: 35 Procent av deltagarna som svarat: 38% Kontaktperson: Madeleine Persson»
Your own effort1. How many hours per week did you spend on this course?We mean total time, that is, it comprises the time you spent in class and the time you spent on your own work. Try to estimate the average time over the entire study period.35 svarande
At most 15 hours/week» | | 10 | | 28% |
Around 20 hours/week» | | 13 | | 37% |
Around 25 hours/week» | | 7 | | 20% |
Around 30 hours/week» | | 3 | | 8% |
At least 35 hours/week» | | 2 | | 5% |
Genomsnitt: 2.25 - The course SSY130 Applied signal processing took most of my time with it monstrously large work load » (At most 15 hours/week)
- Much less then the other curse» (Around 20 hours/week)
2. How large part of the lectures offered did you attend? 35 svarande
0%» | | 0 | | 0% |
25%» | | 1 | | 2% |
50%» | | 1 | | 2% |
75%» | | 11 | | 31% |
100%» | | 22 | | 62% |
Genomsnitt: 4.54 - At first I attended all lectures, but in the end I stopped going there and was instead studying on my own. I found it to be more effective.» (75%)
- Good lectures! Torsten has a good way of explaining things. » (100%)
3. How large part of the exercise demonstrations offered did you attend?35 svarande
0%» | | 0 | | 0% |
25%» | | 5 | | 14% |
50%» | | 5 | | 14% |
75%» | | 7 | | 20% |
100%» | | 18 | | 51% |
Genomsnitt: 4.08 - The demonstrations were actually a little poor.
It could be some more explanation or discussions about whats happaning because everyone can just copy the solutionsmanual if we want to.» (25%)
- The exercises had good answers so I could understand how to solve similair problems, so I used them instead cause it saved me time.» (25%)
- Understand more if I read the solutions to the exercices.» (25%)
- mabey more. They were helpful.» (75%)
- The exercise was not so good, diden"t help me such in my studies.» (75%)
- Could be slightly better prepared.
Better in the end however.» (100%)
- I mostly attended Oscars exercises and he was good. » (100%)
Goals and goal fulfilmentThe course syllabus states the course goals in terms of learning outcomes, i.e., knowledge, skills and attitudes to be acquired by the student during the course.4. How understandable are the course goals?35 svarande
I have not seen/read the goals» | | 6 | | 17% |
The goals are difficult to understand» | | 1 | | 2% |
The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer» | | 8 | | 22% |
The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn» | | 20 | | 57% |
Genomsnitt: 3.2 5. Are the goals reasonable considering your background and the number of credits?Answer this this question and the succeeding one, only if you do know the course goals.31 svarande
No, the goals are set too low» | | 0 | | 0% |
Yes, the goals seem reasonable» | | 29 | | 93% |
No, the goals are set too high» | | 2 | | 6% |
Genomsnitt: 2.06 6. Did the examination assess whether you have reached the goals?32 svarande
No, not at all» | | 0 | | 0% |
To some extent» | | 9 | | 28% |
Yes, definitely» | | 16 | | 50% |
I don"t know/have not been examined yet» | | 7 | | 21% |
Genomsnitt: 2.93 - The hardest part with the exam had nothing to do with this course.» (To some extent)
- The exam was good when looking atthe goals» (Yes, definitely)
Teaching and course administration7. To what extent have the lectures been of help for your learning?35 svarande
Small extent» | | 0 | | 0% |
Some extent» | | 6 | | 17% |
Large extent» | | 15 | | 42% |
Great extent» | | 14 | | 40% |
Genomsnitt: 3.22 - The lectures are so theoretical. I thought this course was a little more practical but it"s all about proofs, matrix math and stuff..» (Some extent)
- Torsten is a great lecturer» (Great extent)
- The lectures was good» (Great extent)
8. To what extent have the exercise demonstrations been of help for your learning?35 svarande
Small extent» | | 4 | | 11% |
Some extent» | | 14 | | 40% |
Large extent» | | 13 | | 37% |
Great extent» | | 4 | | 11% |
Genomsnitt: 2.48 - The excercises are bit messy.» (Some extent)
- The demonstrations made during the lectures with TOrsten was very good, the otherone as mentioned wasn´,t that good. » (Some extent)
- Mitra is good.» (Large extent)
9. To what extent has the course literature and other material been of help for your learning?35 svarande
Small extent» | | 1 | | 2% |
Some extent» | | 8 | | 22% |
Large extent» | | 18 | | 51% |
Great extent» | | 8 | | 22% |
Genomsnitt: 2.94 - Chapter 11 in the book is hard to understand.» (Some extent)
- course literature was good. » (Large extent)
- I didn"t like the course book. It feels like pages with clear explanations of most things are gone. However, you really were forced to use it to succeed in this course.» (Large extent)
10. How well did the course administration, web page, handouts etc work?35 svarande
Very badly» | | 0 | | 0% |
Rather badly» | | 3 | | 8% |
Rather well» | | 19 | | 54% |
Very well» | | 13 | | 37% |
Genomsnitt: 3.28 - Handouts fine
Lab preparations worse. Couldn"t prepare enough for the lab and there were extensive preparation tasks» (Rather badly)
- Material to the tank lab was not published on homepage. » (Rather badly)
- The lab assignment did work well. I was erased from it somehow and was never given any information about it. Luckily, a fellow student was in the same predicament and could offer guidance.» (Rather badly)
- Information abouth what thing are allowed at the exam could had been better.» (Rather well)
- Torsten is a very caring teacher and was always fast to make sure we had what we needed in the course.» (Very well)
Study climate11. How were the opportunities for asking questions and getting help?34 svarande
Very poor» | | 0 | | 0% |
Rather poor» | | 2 | | 5% |
Rather good» | | 7 | | 20% |
Very good» | | 22 | | 64% |
I did not seek help» | | 3 | | 8% |
Genomsnitt: 3.76 - Very friendly course staff that always took time to answer questions, perfect!» (Very good)
- They helped out a lot and there was never a problem when you wanted to pop by for a question, this is true for all of them.» (Very good)
- I"ll probably trouble Oscar during exam week» (I did not seek help)
12. How well has cooperation between you and your fellow students worked?35 svarande
Very poorly» | | 0 | | 0% |
Rather poorly» | | 2 | | 5% |
Rather well» | | 19 | | 54% |
Very well» | | 14 | | 40% |
I did not seek cooperation» | | 0 | | 0% |
Genomsnitt: 3.34 13. How was the course workload?35 svarande
Too low» | | 0 | | 0% |
Low» | | 1 | | 2% |
Adequate» | | 22 | | 62% |
High» | | 10 | | 28% |
Too high» | | 2 | | 5% |
Genomsnitt: 3.37 - It"s a heavy course but I don"t think anything should be removed from it.» (Adequate)
- Because of the work load in the other couse this course suffered and I did not spend so much time as I would like too do.» (Adequate)
14. How was the total workload this study period?35 svarande
Too low» | | 1 | | 2% |
Low» | | 2 | | 5% |
Adequate» | | 13 | | 37% |
High» | | 9 | | 25% |
Too high» | | 10 | | 28% |
Genomsnitt: 3.71 - The course SSY130 - Applied Signal Processing together with this course was way to much, SSY130 almost took all my time.» (Too high)
- many loooong days» (Too high)
- Mostly due to applied signal processing but this course is rather tough as well.» (Too high)
Summarizing questions15. What program do you follow?35 svarande
MPSYS» | | 20 | | 57% |
MPISC» | | 7 | | 20% |
MPBME» | | 2 | | 5% |
TKAUT» | | 0 | | 0% |
No program» | | 1 | | 2% |
Other program» | | 5 | | 14% |
Genomsnitt: 2.14 - MPAUT» (Other program)
- Erasmus» (Other program)
- mpepo» (Other program)
- I"m an Erasmus student so I almost follow the MPSYS program but not entirely» (Other program)
16. What is your general impression of the course?35 svarande
Poor» | | 0 | | 0% |
Fair» | | 3 | | 8% |
Adequate» | | 9 | | 25% |
Good» | | 14 | | 40% |
Excellent» | | 9 | | 25% |
Genomsnitt: 3.82 - There is always room for improvments. So pherhaps a bit more preparation work needs to be done. One thing that I think could improve the course even more is to add even more simulations and other things that visualise the different aspects in this course. » (Good)
- lab was not that good, did not work as expected and supposed.» (Good)
- I think this is a good course» (Excellent)
17. What should definitely be preserved to next year?- Teacher»
- The assigment and experiment.»
- Torsten!»
- offer twice a year»
- the teacher and the TA»
- Torsten!! Wonderful teacher!»
- The different lectures that has simulations and simulation results and other stuff that visualises the content of the course in a good pedagogical way. I think it is very good to use different types of tools to explain the material in the course. »
- Laboration (robot arm). But more time is needed, at least two hours so we don"t have to rush through the excercises. This will lead to further understanding of LQ-control and Kalman filtering. The Lab-PM needs to be looked through, there are errors and uncertainties»
- Lab.»
- Exercises»
- contents»
18. What should definitely be changed to next year?- Lab preparations»
- Slides, should have more information just in case you cannot attend a lecture.»
- More hours of excercises.»
- The labinstructions should be much more informative (at lab) and offer more guidence for students how aren"t used to work in Simulink (regarding the task before the lab).»
- none»
- nothing»
- The exercises in the book are very boring and hard to follow, since they frequently refer to older problems when defining the new, and they also refer to examples in the book all the time which makes them very fragmented. It can be hard and boring to do problems when you have to do old problems first and verify those results.
Also the problems in the book put lots of emphasis on hard calculations that takes forever to do by hand.
More emphasis could be put on recommending to use a more advanced calculator and those that are normally allowed in chalmers course. Since you can bring a graph-drawing calculator with matrix handling capabilities to this exam, I think the teacher should recommend people to aquire one of those. It would have saved me tons of effort to use it when I did exercises.»
- Pherhaps prepare a bit more before the lectures but it is not a big issue.»
- Nothing in particular.»
- The slides during the lectures should be changed and should be more detailled»
- some more lab work»
19. Which assignment/lab exercise did you hand in?34 svarande
Robot arm» | | 24 | | 70% |
Double tank process» | | 10 | | 29% |
Genomsnitt: 1.29 - neither» (?)
- The laboratory and the assignment. The assignment should be split to two or three parts. The PM:s should be rewritten and the equipment and the model should be tuned.» (Robot arm)
- It could be diveded to two labs maybe so we get enough time to really understand what we are doing and get enough time to do all the exercises» (Robot arm)
- Good lab. » (Robot arm)
- not that good, did not show the strength of a LQG controller as it should have.» (Robot arm)
- i will hand it.» (Double tank process)
20. Did the assignment and laboratory exercises help your understanding of the course?- Slightly but it was very difficult!»
- Yes, since I didn"t pay much attention to the lectures/exercises, this was where I learned most from.»
- To some extend»
- Yes.»
- Yes»
- Not very much, it was to difficult. »
- Yes it was good for understanding»
- rather well»
- yes»
- yes»
- yes, definitely»
- Yes! But almost no-one did get the LQG with integral action to work satisfactory. I think the teachers should know more about the lab so they can help and fix so that it works. Now it seemed like a lot of work to end up with something that was worthless.»
- The problem was that most of us took the course in "Applied signal processing" and that course kind of stole a LOT of time from this course which resulted in that we could not study very much on this course and especially not on the lab. There needs to be some sort of lecture with teachers where you can ask questions about the lab because the preparation work to the lab was quite difficult. »
- it could be more detailed.»
- Yes, but more time for this is so totally needed. The laboration was rushed through. At least 2 hours more is needed!»
- Yes.»
- Yes, it wad easier to understand the theory after laboration»
- the assignment was not very helpfull to understand the course, but the exercises were very helpfull.»
- to some extent»
- More or less but the assignment/lab exercise weren"t clear.»
- Yes. But laboratory exercise takes too long to do, one has to rush through it to make it in time.»
21. Additional comments- Good job! Merry X-mas»
- none»
- The teacher was one of the best teachers i had have ever.»
- A good and very interesting course! Something that I missed in the course is a comparing of the different regulators (compare performance robustness etc..) Wich one is the best and when should I use which regulator?»
- The course was good!»
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