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Programming paradigms, Lp2 ht10, DAT120 / DIT330
Status: Avslutad Öppen för svar: 2010-12-07 - 2010-12-17 Antal svar: 33 Procent av deltagarna som svarat: 33% Kontaktperson: Victoria E»
Your own effort1. How many hours per week did you spend on this course?*33 svarande
At most 15 hours/week» | | 16 | | 48% |
Around 20 hours/week» | | 16 | | 48% |
Around 25 hours/week» | | 0 | | 0% |
Around 30 hours/week» | | 1 | | 3% |
At least 35 hours/week» | | 0 | | 0% |
Genomsnitt: 1.57 (bidrar till totalt genomsnitt/jämförelseindex) 2. How large part of the teaching offered did you attend?*33 svarande
0%» | | 0 | | 0% |
25%» | | 7 | | 21% |
50%» | | 10 | | 30% |
75%» | | 8 | | 24% |
100%» | | 8 | | 24% |
Genomsnitt: 3.51 (bidrar till totalt genomsnitt/jämförelseindex) Genomsnitt totalt för detta stycke: 2.54
Goals and goal fulfilment3. How understandable are the course goals?33 svarande
I have not seen/read the goals» | | 11 | | 33% |
The goals are difficult to understand» | | 2 | | 6% |
The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer» | | 12 | | 36% |
The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn» | | 8 | | 24% |
Genomsnitt: 2.51 4. Are the goals reasonable considering your background and the number of credits?24 svarande
No, the goals are set too low» | | 1 | | 4% |
Yes, the goals seem reasonable» | | 22 | | 91% |
No, the goals are set too high» | | 1 | | 4% |
Genomsnitt: 2 5. Did the examination assess whether you have reached the goals?33 svarande(på denna fråga var det möjligt att välja flera svarsalternativ)
No, not at all» | | 1 | | 3% |
To some extent» | | 4 | | 12% |
Yes, definitely» | | 10 | | 30% |
I don"t know/have not been examined yet» | | 14 | | 42% |
- We are going to have exam on 15 December.» ()
- Very difficult to understand what the goals were.» (I don"t know/have not been examined yet)
- Great exam, did almost cover the whole course. Some of the question regarding OOP were hard to interpret.» (Yes, definitely)
- The exam was too comprehensive. Yes, the course itself is comprehensive, but there were too many questions of things we had bearly touched. Like the question of which semantics Liskov"s principle was about. That was on one slide, from one lecture.» (Yes, definitely)
Teaching and course administration6. To what extent has the teaching been of help for your learning?33 svarande
Small extent» | | 4 | | 12% |
To some extent» | | 9 | | 27% |
Large extent» | | 17 | | 51% |
Great extent» | | 3 | | 9% |
Genomsnitt: 2.57 - I can"t assess how well I learned the material because I don"t know what I was supposed to learn.» (To some extent)
- I didn"t go to many lectures, some with J and downloaded and watched many of them at least. Went to one of R"s lectures but I left halfway through. He is not a good lecturer, I believe he"s new at it and he"ll probably learn, but right now it doesn"t work very well.» (To some extent) (den här kommentaren har blivit redigerad i efterhand)
- I think R could improve his speach. He talks too fast, and mumbing and stumbling on words. It was hard to following.» (To some extent) (den här kommentaren har blivit redigerad i efterhand)
- Went to some of J"s lectures» (To some extent) (den här kommentaren har blivit redigerad i efterhand)
- Hughes FTW» (Large extent)
- read papers afterwards» (Large extent)
- Since there were no litterature, lectures were the only referens.» (Large extent)
- Föreläsningen var bra, med han som hade hand om funktionella, parallela och logisk delen. Den andra verkade osäker och var svår att förstå.
Övningarna vad sisådär.» (Large extent)
- The lectures were good.» (Large extent)
- recorded teaching has been helpful» (Great extent)
7. To what extent has the course literature and other material been of help for your learning?31 svarande
Small extent» | | 9 | | 29% |
Some extent» | | 9 | | 29% |
Large extent» | | 8 | | 25% |
Great extent» | | 5 | | 16% |
Genomsnitt: 2.29 - There was no course literature.» (Small extent)
- Skaffade inte kurslitteratur.» (Small extent)
- It would be really nice to get more material or more information on the lecture slides. » (Small extent)
- The slides did just mention different concepts, deeper knowlage internet were a great source... as usual.» (Some extent)
- We hadn"t really any course litterature. It was the slides and the papers, but I also used wikipedia to learn more.» (Some extent)
- Great with recorded lectures» (Large extent)
- I miss having a textbook to read. I know there isn"t a book named "Programming Paradigms" but 2 or 3 strongly recommended books would be nice.» (Great extent)
8. How well did the course administration, web page, handouts etc work?33 svarande
Very badly» | | 2 | | 6% |
Rather badly» | | 7 | | 21% |
Rather well» | | 19 | | 57% |
Very well» | | 5 | | 15% |
Genomsnitt: 2.81 - The course homepage is awful! Please don"t ever use Studentportalen"s homepages again!» (Very badly)
- Where do i begin flaming? The fact that the teacher didn"t put a planning up, or that he never bothered putting slides up before the lectures? It was dreadful and it"s a shame for Chalmers that courses with this extremely low quality are under it"s name. One good thing was the google-group» (Very badly) (den här kommentaren har blivit redigerad i efterhand)
- In The start we received regular emails, but they stopped.» (Rather badly)
- It would be good to reduce the number of different site linked to this course (Homepage on the student portal, site only for the exercices, Google group ...)» (Rather badly)
- I was disappointed in the exercise sessions after the Erlang exercises because one of the solutions was incorrect (backup server) and the other used awkward code (custom function for force-killing processes instead of using built-in technique). After that I didn"t feel confident that future solutions would be helpful enough for me.» (Rather badly)
- Kursadministartion är alltid byråkratiskt och svåröverskådligt.
Webbsidan var det svårt att hitta i, mycket "tack vare" chalmers-mallen.» (Rather badly)
- Not very good structure with the handouts etc.» (Rather badly)
- The course was split to two homepages. I didn"t like when they put up one sample exam without solutions and solutions to an exam which questions were never posted.» (Rather badly)
- Shouldn"t they know that? Also, on the exercise on the 6th they asked if we wanted an exercise on the 9th. We said yes, if John had put up a sample exam before that. He did on the 7th. Still, when I came to the classroom at 8:00 (I knew it was rescheduled) it was noone there.» (Rather badly)
- All of the things that would end up there never did. Like the videos from the two logic-lectures. And the sample exam was really late. I think sample exams can be put up on the course page from the beginning. Also, it was from 2007, rather old. And the answers for it that was uploaded like a week before the exam was for another exam...
I never understood what the google group was for.
The supervisors didn"t know how to do to get hold of past exams (this was before the sample exam was up.) Shouldn"t they know that? Also, on the exercise on the 6th they asked if we wanted an exercise on the 9th. We said yes, if the teacher had put up a sample exam before that. He did on the 7th. Still, when I came to the classroom at 8:00 (I knew it was rescheduled) it was noone there.» (Rather badly) (den här kommentaren har blivit redigerad i efterhand)
- The handouts could be structured better using folders» (Rather well)
- I don"t get why there weren"t more old exams, preferably with solutions of course.» (Rather well)
Study climate9. How were the opportunities for asking questions and getting help?33 svarande
Very poor» | | 1 | | 3% |
Rather poor» | | 0 | | 0% |
Rather good» | | 14 | | 42% |
Very good» | | 10 | | 30% |
I did not seek help» | | 8 | | 24% |
Genomsnitt: 3.72 10. How well has cooperation between you and your fellow students worked?32 svarande
Very poorly» | | 0 | | 0% |
Rather poorly» | | 3 | | 9% |
Rather well» | | 10 | | 31% |
Very well» | | 6 | | 18% |
I did not seek coopeation» | | 13 | | 40% |
Genomsnitt: 3.9 - I talk to the same people as usual.» (Rather well)
Summarizing questions11. What is your general impression of the course?33 svarande
Poor» | | 3 | | 9% |
Fair» | | 5 | | 15% |
Adequate» | | 6 | | 18% |
Good» | | 15 | | 45% |
Excellent» | | 4 | | 12% |
Genomsnitt: 3.36 - really i don"t understand the goal of this course ??» (Poor)
- No planning or any other attempts from J to run a good course.» (Poor) (den här kommentaren har blivit redigerad i efterhand)
- A tricky topic and a widely spreaded subject makes it difficult to makes a course like this good. This was a good attempt but nothing more. We were just shown some different technichs and the lecturers were just talkning like "here is this concept, works lke this, here is the next".» (Fair)
- Lite flummig.» (Adequate)
- Very good general course on programming languages, I feel it"s given me quite a lot. Some things were hard, others easy, but this is unavoidable with people coming in with different backgrounds. » (Good)
12. What should definitely be preserved to next year?- John Hughes.»
- Hughes, languages (Thank you for no Java! I am so sick of it!)»
- exercise and web site.»
- recorded lectures»
- The good variety of programming languages.»
- Erlang, Smalltalk, and John Hughes.»
- Overall Im satisfid with the course.»
- The functional, concurrent and logical part»
- the OOP part isn"t say anything
also instead of learning different languish in explain two of the in detail is better »
- Den ena föreläsaren.»
- taping the lectures, maybe with a better microphone»
- It"s really good that John is recording his lectures.»
- Video lectures were good but I would like to download the slides from the lectures in functional programming, not just watch them on film.»
- The lecture videos were an awesome idea. Keep doing that.»
13. What should definitely be changed to next year?- The imperative and OO lectures.»
- Exercise *sessions* needs to be looked over. They feel superfluous. There is not much activity, only silence. More emphasis on collaborativity might help.»
- Having Laboratory Sessions with pass/fail would help»
- the guide for exam.»
- A planning would be nice. Pretty much everything was terrible, only exception is that the course contents course was interesting.»
- The first exercises about church numeral arithmetic and the parsing library in Haskell seemed like overkill for me, especially in the first week of the course. I haven"t talked to anyone in the class who felt they really understood the church arithmetic or @@ operator, and it can also demoralize people if the hardest exercises are in the first week.
Either the Prolog part should start earlier or should be more clearly delimited. Cuts, negation and other advanced concepts seemed like magic to me and I felt that one or two weeks was too little time to learn Prolog.
I"m also not so sure about including F# in the course. It seems like a fun language to learn but at the same time feels like one too much in a single course.»
- I found it hard to find purpose of the exercises regarding Haskell and erlang, they were mostly hard to understand, particulary the Haskell parser. Erlang were just code writing.»
- fewer languages or languages that bring out the main concept»
- Not so many different languages in the imperativ and object oriented parts»
- Standardmallen för kurswebbidor.»
- In my opinion the planning of the course was pretty bad. Since the lectures were given thursdays and fridays I had to all exercises during the weekend. Since most people have other things to address during that time, like me, it was a bit stressful to do everything on a very short time.
I would"ve prefered if the lectures were given at the begining of the weekend and the big exercise session taking place on fridays.»
- I think the exam was too long for 4 h. 5 h is a better time.
And, well, everything I have stated in my other comments.»
- The languages used to demonstrate the paradigms. What"s with choosing the most obscure ones you can possibly find? smalltalk and F#? »
- Better co-operation between the two lecturers. It seemed like J took very much space and R wasn"t able to get that much power.
Remove the assignments or change them into some compulsory but easier assignments with a clearer connection to the subject. This year the assignments were too difficult and it felt like they were very loosely connected to the course.» (den här kommentaren har blivit redigerad i efterhand)
14. Additional comments- Happy Holidays!»
- I really enjoyed John Hughes part of this course! Great lectures.»
Additional comments Genomsnitt totalt för alla frågor: 2.54 Beräknat jämförelseindex: 0.38* obligatoriska frågor
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