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Applied signal processing, SSY130, HT2007

Status: Avslutad
Öppen för svar: 2007-12-14 - 2008-01-11
Antal svar: 54
Procent av deltagarna som svarat: 54%
Kontaktperson: Madeleine Persson»

Your own effort

1. How many hours per week did you spend on this course?

We mean total time, that is, it comprises the time you spent in class and the time you spent on your own work. Try to estimate the average time over the entire study period.

54 svarande

At most 15 hours/week»3 5%
Around 20 hours/week»17 31%
Around 25 hours/week»10 18%
Around 30 hours/week»15 27%
At least 35 hours/week»9 16%

Genomsnitt: 3.18

- Should be a higher workload.» (Around 20 hours/week)
- The most of the time was spent on the projects» (Around 20 hours/week)
- a lot of time were spent with the project, including weekends.» (Around 25 hours/week)
- Was hard to find an efficient way to work. Bad teamworking made everything take a long time.» (Around 30 hours/week)
- This course is pretty bad......» (Around 30 hours/week)
- very high course load. 3 handin-problems, 3labs plus 2 oral exams + written exam is to much, considering that i had one more course to cope with.» (Around 30 hours/week)
- This course was so time consuming that I could never spend enough time on my other course that was really important for me in the program that I am in.» (At least 35 hours/week)
- Come on, it was too much work to do» (At least 35 hours/week)

2. How large part of the teaching offered did you attend?

54 svarande

0%»0 0%
25%»3 5%
50%»5 9%
75%»16 29%
100%»30 55%

Genomsnitt: 4.35

- Incompatible schedule with Wavelet Analysis. How can two courses in the same domain be scheduled at the same time. There are still free-movers who don"t belong to a Master"s program!» (25%)
- too much notes, can"t you just print it? wast of time copying all the time» (75%)
- I attended 100% of the lectures and maybe 80% of the exercises» (75%)
- almost all of the classes, missed out a few exercise sessions.» (75%)
- Good lectures and exercises, however the level of the exercises was rather simple.» (100%)
- very high tempo at the begining» (100%)
- Did not help at the exam at all, might as well stay at home. Too much variables on the blackboard, too few examples. With all the summation-signs you get confused.» (100%)

Goals and goal fulfilment

The course syllabus states the course goals in terms of learning outcomes, i.e., knowledge, skills and attitudes to be acquired by the student during the course.

3. How understandable are the course goals?

54 svarande

I have not seen/read the goals»4 7%
The goals are difficult to understand»16 29%
The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer»22 40%
The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn»12 22%

Genomsnitt: 2.77

- not know what to learn» (The goals are difficult to understand)
- I almost didn"t learn anything from the lecture » (The goals are difficult to understand)
- The goals seems to be made for the old course and not well adjusted to this new one which for example includes an exam.» (The goals are difficult to understand)
- The goals were not obvious during the course» (The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer)
- haven"t seen the goals until now, when i searched the studenportal for the course. the goals are not stated on the course homepage.» (The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer)

4. Are the goals reasonable considering your background and the number of credits?

Answer this this question and the succeeding one, only if you do know the course goals.

50 svarande

No, the goals are set too low»3 6%
Yes, the goals seem reasonable»28 56%
No, the goals are set too high»19 38%

Genomsnitt: 2.32

- Some students with other backgrounds had to ride on the backs of others to be able to follow some times.» (Yes, the goals seem reasonable)
- Difficult for those students who come from MPSYS. Miss communincation background» (No, the goals are set too high)
- The goals seems ok but the teacher take them to a more difficult level than the goals describes.» (No, the goals are set too high)
- Actually this course was based on a communication engineering background, while I had control engineering background! » (No, the goals are set too high)
- Too much towards the "Communication" area. They had a big advantage compared to the people who studies Control.» (No, the goals are set too high)

5. Did the examination assess whether you have reached the goals?

52 svarande

No, not at all»10 19%
To some extent»21 40%
Yes, definitely»7 13%
I don"t know/have not been examined yet»14 26%

Genomsnitt: 2.48

- The course itself is very applied with labs and so on but the exam had very little connection to this. The problems on lectures and tutorials was not even close to like any of the problems on the exam.» (No, not at all)
- No, the exam was like a different course. Taking up different parts that we haven"t work with.» (No, not at all)
- Come on, the focus was said to be about understanding and not so much calculations. But the exam consisted of something like 80 % calculations. To say one thing and do another thing is not very nice towards us.» (No, not at all)
- Lost points on the projects because of bad teamworking which I would"ve had if it was individual tasks. To get highest grade then the exam will have higher demands than normal.» (To some extent)
- What was on the exam had litle to do with the course in general.» (To some extent)
- Way to hard final!» (To some extent)
- However the exam did not follow at all what was presented in the course exercises.» (To some extent)
- Very hard to prepare yourself for an exam that you have no idea how it"s going to be like. » (To some extent)
- The final exam questions were not so much relevant to the course material. I mean the course material was much more complete than the final exam.» (To some extent)
- Almost every part were tested, in alot of different ways.» (Yes, definitely)

Teaching and course administration

6. To what extent has the teaching been of help for your learning?

53 svarande

Small extent»16 30%
Some extent»20 37%
Large extent»14 26%
Great extent»3 5%

Genomsnitt: 2.07

- It had nothing to do with the exam» (Small extent)
- The lectures have been quite ok, the tutorials worthless!» (Small extent)
- Actually, the course book that was chosen was so heavy and tough that even the teacher couldn"t cope with it! and that was natural. Come on! nobody can teach such a book in less than 2 months. I really don"t know what was the goal of choosing such a book!!!» (Small extent)
- Didnt learn anything at the exercises, the TA"s just sat there and did nothing, didnt get any help and they just say read the book, or you shuld already know this, Very bad!» (Small extent)
- Tomas makes it too complicated. Try to teach us less things properly, instead of trying to make us understand a 1300 page book...» (Small extent)
- Tomas main goal on the lectures is to write down as many boards as possible. would be better to focus on some parts, and let us read the other things by ourselves.» (Some extent)
- Good lectures, but the teacher was away for the last week, which is when you really need to get in contact with him» (Some extent)
- Understanding labs and projects the teaching was ok. understanding the assignments in the literature and the exam was impossible from the teaching in class.» (Some extent)
- Lektionerna har varit bra, men inte om man ser till vad som kom på tenta. Kändes inte som tentan speglade lektionerna någonting» (Some extent)
- The lectures are good but should be better coupled with the course literature for self study. Exercise classes were really bad.» (Large extent)
- Tomas is a very good teacher.» (Great extent)

7. To what extent has the the course literature and other material been of help for your learning?

54 svarande

Small extent»14 25%
Some extent»27 50%
Large extent»10 18%
Great extent»3 5%

Genomsnitt: 2.03

- I had alot of questions about things during the course and I doubt the book was able to answer a single one of them.» (Small extent)
- Reading directions came out 5 days before the exam!!!!» (Small extent)
- The reading recommendations should be more restrictive. Why weren"t any "old" exams handed out?» (Small extent)
- The book is waaaaaaaaaaay to thick. Change to another one.» (Small extent)
- To much text to be able to grasp it all. And the reading instructions came but rather late.» (Some extent)
- The book is very bad IMO. Way to big for this kind of course. last years book was much better, why did tomas change book? The excersices in the book cannot be solved by reading the chapter first. One has to guess how things should be, look at the solutions manual and try to figure out what they have done.» (Some extent)
- No reading instructions was handed out. Very bad.» (Some extent)
- It was ok. The book may be a little to much for this course. Many chapters where neglected.» (Some extent)
- As I mentioned before, that book needs at least 3 months of full work for a student to get along with. » (Some extent)
- This course is very expensive for erasmus students: You have to buy the book, because there are not all informations in the lecture. Then you have to buy the book with the formulas. Because it is not allowed to take other transformations-tables to the exam. And then you have to buy a Chalmers proved calculater (But the Professor can"t tell you what models of calculaters are proofes). After you have bought this new calculater, you can read in the exam that every calculater is allowed. But before in every Hand-out you could read that only the Chamlers proved is allowed. :-(» (Some extent)
- The book is good.» (Great extent)

8. How well did the course administration, web page, handouts etc work?

54 svarande

Very badly»17 31%
Rather badly»16 29%
Rather well»16 29%
Very well»5 9%

Genomsnitt: 2.16

- exercise sessions were totally different from what we are supposed to learn» (Very badly)
- The readinginstructions came out 4 days before the exam. No idea what the labreports should contain.» (Very badly)
- Tutorials not updated since Week 1. Hand IN assignments where not delivered at the designated time. Poorly administration between labs. » (Very badly)
- The course should end before Christmas, not after. Because of the oral examination in January I will receive my Master"s degree several weeks later than planned. This can create large problems for students leaving Gothenburg after finishing their studies. Why aren"t the students allowed to plan their own time? I can understand deadlines for hand-ins during the course but why aren"t the assignments handed out all at once? It seems like the examinator had taken for granted that attending the course is equivalent to being available at school all the time during the course period. » (Very badly)
- Det har varit jättesvårt att kunna få svar på frågor både via mail å hemsida. Eftersom läraren var bortrest sista veckan och inte svarade på några mail va det helt omöjligt att få reda på någonting så.Handledaren fick inte ens tag på honom. Dessutom har vi ännu inte fått reda på poängen som skall kunna ersätta tentan. Helt bedrövligt dålig!!!» (Very badly)
- not enough information, maybe should give the lecture notes» (Rather badly)
- The course administration was greatly lacking. » (Rather badly)
- Overload on the teacher» (Rather badly)
- Results on different tasks in the course where posted very late, acctually some of the results are not even posted yet.» (Rather badly)
- Slow response from Tomas. The TA:s didn"t know what to do.» (Rather badly)
- It is a problem that the informations comes too late. Theer should be a strict timetable for all projects in the first week of the course. So that the student have a possibility to plan. The results were published very late. The excercise number-sheet get only updated in the last week for the exam.» (Rather badly)
- But it could be a little more friendly, not that time consuming. » (Rather well)
- The course homepage has been updated freuently, which is good.» (Very well)

Study climate

9. How were the opportunities for asking questions and getting help?

54 svarande

Very poor»7 12%
Rather poor»11 20%
Rather good»20 37%
Very good»13 24%
I did not seek help»3 5%

Genomsnitt: 2.88

- TA are very aggressive and sick!!!!!» (Very poor)
- The iranian guy yelled at everyone, pangiota were nice but didnt really understand anything» (Very poor)
- The male teachers assistant was the worst assistant i"ve ever met» (Very poor)
- Never asked Tomas about anything. The teaching assistants try their best to help, but they also think that the course is difficult and way to advanced. » (Rather poor)
- Co-teachers where not intrested in helping students. Tutorial lessons where very bad and meaningless/ had no connection to the rest of the course what so ever.» (Rather poor)
- Handledarna har varit underbara vad gällande att svara på allt som hon kan, men de som hon inte visste var svårare att få reda på.» (Rather poor)
- the teaching assistants were not good at all. tomas answered questions well.» (Rather good)
- Tomas was hard to reach. Panagiota was very helpful.» (Rather good)
- Panagiota helped well.» (Very good)

10. How well has cooperation between you and your fellow students worked?

54 svarande

Very poorly»1 1%
Rather poorly»6 11%
Rather well»20 37%
Very well»27 50%
I did not seek cooperation»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 3.35

- Different level of skill.» (Rather poorly)
- My teammates had other ambitions than completing the assignments, effecting my final results...» (Rather poorly)
- I had some bad luck with my groupmates. One was lazy and one didn"t know matlab, so I did most of the work myself. This is ofcourse not someting that I blame on the course staff/organization. » (Rather poorly)
- Admitting exchange students to the Master"s programs without assuring that they have the necessary language skills is a disaster. The other students surely can cope with project team members not being able to communicate, and thereby contribute, but it is not fair for the exchange student who pays a lot a money to travel to and live in Gothenburg without being able to follow the lectures and pass the exams. The cooperation with the project team members which were able to communicate worked very well.» (Rather poorly)
- Fun to work with studenst from other countries» (Rather well)
- sometimes difficult to cooperate with people you don"t know, but it went ok after a while.» (Rather well)
- the projects were great» (Very well)
- It is important to realize that some of the exchange students have problems with the english language, which will make the workload for the other studens much higher.» (Very well)
- Godd opportunity to work with other people from other programs.» (Very well)

11. How was the course workload?

54 svarande

Too low»0 0%
Low»2 3%
Adequate»11 20%
High»24 44%
Too high»17 31%

Genomsnitt: 4.03

- The work load was adequate in time, BUT the tasks performed were not optimal. Three hand-ins and three lab projects means that too much time is spent on writing reports. Reports that are hardly read and surely not commented. Remove the project reports and only keep the oral examinations!» (Adequate)
- Have not taken any signal course before so the strating weak was rather massiv.» (High)
- hip is too much» (High)
- the over all load of this quarter was very high.» (High)
- Project and labs takes time» (High)
- Because of the other course Digital Communications, we always had 2 overlapping projects with different groups» (High)
- too much topics and not too much time» (Too high)
- 3 Hand Ins, 3 labs, 3 rapports 2 Oral exams and 1 exam which had nothing to do with the rest is too much workload indeed for 5 points.» (Too high)
- The labs were to big, the teacher didnt have time to correct anything until after course were finished, the last oral exam was sceduled in january!» (Too high)
- Definitly too high. 3 Projects, 3 Oral Exams, 1 written Exam, Lectures, Escercises, Studio-Excercises. » (Too high)
- Six things to hand in, two oral examinations and one written exam, are you kidding me!???» (Too high)

12. How was the total workload this study period?

54 svarande

Too low»1 1%
Low»4 7%
Adequate»4 7%
High»18 33%
Too high»27 50%

Genomsnitt: 4.22

- I took 17.5 old credits worth of courses and spent two weeks abroad. For a student staying in Gothenburg the whole time and taking only 10 credits worth of courses the workload is FAR too low.» (High)
- With deadlines on fridays and often hand-in problems for monday (in ASP) or a quiz, little free time even on weekends.» (Too high)
- two course at the same time gave total 4project 3quiz 3hip » (Too high)
- 2 badly planned courses.» (Too high)
- Both courses together was very tough.» (Too high)
- Two courses with this workload, its to much, didnt have time to read any books until 3 days before the exam.. that is not good at all!» (Too high)
- But mostly because of this course. Financial Management was okay.» (Too high)

Summarizing questions

13. What is your general impression of the course?

54 svarande

Poor»15 27%
Fair»13 24%
Adequate»9 16%
Good»16 29%
Excellent»1 1%

Genomsnitt: 2.53

- could have been a great course, but the bad book. unpedagogical lectures, very bad excersice session. We were not prepared to be able to solve the excersices on the studio session. tomas should have given more examples on his lectures.» (Poor)
- Very bad tutorials and an exam that had almost nothing to do with the things brought up during the course. Everything "applied" (labs and homeassignments) were ok but the exam and tutorial felt like it didn"t fit in the course.» (Poor)
- Badly planned and administrated. The teacher went away the last week without informating about exam material, updating tutorial assignments, holding oral exam (persponed to january) or answering questions. The exam didnt identify with the course material. All teachers where not interested in helping at all. The last laboration was quite useless and led to an even more useless oral exam. Strange way to determine a grade (with a formula which wasnt weighted per points). » (Poor)
- Another problem of mine, was one of the TAs. He corrected my hand-in assignment so badly that nobody even the other TA couldn"t imagine. He gave me a zero while I had done a lot of work on that assignment. Come on! what does that mean? Should there be any difference between a student who has done something and one who hasn"t handed anything in or not? Of course there must be. I think giving this much power to a TA is not a good idea at all. This can affect the final grade of students severely and more important, it can kill all the enthusiasm of the student who is suffered.» (Poor)
- Seems Thomas doesn"t really want to teach students!» (Poor)
- The idea is good, but try to remove some parts, there are too many things to keep track of.» (Poor)
- Helt värdelöst pga läraren. Har aldrig varit så arg och kännt mig så hjälplös som i denna kurs.» (Poor)
- Lectures were good, administration was lacking and exercise sessions were quite bad.» (Fair)
- Some parts were ok, but the tutorials and exam were a total disaster» (Fair)
- Could have been much beter. » (Fair)
- Far too many administrative constraints, e.g. time disposal, lectures at a very slow pace, the absence of proof-reading, an expensive book, and no old exams available for preparation purposes make my answer tend more towards "poor" than "adequate".» (Fair)
- the lecture is hard to follow» (Adequate)
- Thomas is a good teacher» (Adequate)
- Took up alot of time but hopefully not time wasted.» (Good)
- Don"t really have time to learn it good, since we also have digital communication, which is also of high workload.» (Good)
- Learned alot of signal processing. Hands on in the lab.» (Good)
- However, because of the content it should in my opinion be a project course, with smaller projects where you test the different algorithms...» (Good)
- It would have been better if the entire course is on adaptive filtering only.It gives more detail understanding on the adaptive filtering.» (Good)
- Interesting contents.» (Excellent)

14. What should definitely be preserved to next year?

- Points for hand-ins and projects go unshortened to the total points of the course.»
- teachers and TA»
- Hand in problems»
- The lab excersices and the lecture form. »
- the tutor»
- print out some slids for the lecture or print out the notes, stop writing on the bord for endless»
- projects»
- points distribution.»
- Lectures and course literature. Projects were also quite good.»
- nothing»
- project and hip»
- This course should be cancelled !!! we are wasting the time !!!!!!»
- The assignments and lab»
- hand-in problem 2 and 3 where good. »
- Project and all Matlab exercises.»
- projects»
- The projects and the hand-in problems. The really helped in the learning process.»
- The projects»
- The labs were good but they should be squeeze into the first 6 weeks so that you can start studying in the 7th week. »
- i don"t know»
- The 2 first lab projects. One or two hand ins.»
- The laborations was good.»
- Tomas McKelvey with communication engineering students, not control engineering students. »
- Eavery thing is ok»
- Some parctical things are okay.»
- I don"t know...»
- The projects and the handin"s»
- The lab projects»

15. What should definitely be changed to next year?

- Results from hand-ins and projects should be given and published quicker, if there is not time to grade them there is probably too much of them. Studio lab session could be more guided. Exercises should follow the lectures and not lag a few weeks behind or cover a different topic.»
- less project,more exercises»
- Project 2»
- Try to conect the tourtorial excercises better with the lectures. »
- more information about the final exam, results of the project before the final written exam»
- the course home page. it update slow and few things r there»
- Both Teaching Assistant of this should be changed for the next year.And authority should ensure for the qualified teaching assistant of particular courses who is knowledgable and helpful.»
- tutoral class»
- Studio was not useful at all, The TAs were not good at teaching and Tomas seemed unprepared at the lectures. bad planning on the projects. Difficult to understand the goal of the 3rd project!»
- administrative issues.»
- Exercise sessions should focus on theory and should assume that students have done the problems. Having students do the problems in class with TA"s that don"t know too much is a bad idea! Also knowing beforehand what problems to do for each exercise session is a minimum requirement.»
- The exercises. The male TA does not intend to teach anything during exercises. And he speaks some unknown language that most students cannot understand during exercises! VERY IRRITATING!! The teacher should give us the reading directions early in the study period, not two days before the exam.»
- everything,epecially the TA.The text book is not easy to read.»
- don"t need to change.»
- The tutorials.»
- give example exams. change book. more examples on lecture. remove some material from the course. emphasize others more. »
- there are a lot of parts to read instead it could be less general but concentrating on some special parts.»
- The oral presentations should be during the period, no after christmas.»
- Get more assistans!!!»
- final exam should be cancelled since we spent too much time on the projects.»
- The exam, or the exercises because the content on the exam had nothing to do with the exercises at all.»
- The reading directions for the vast number of pages should be given out earlier than the 7th week. The exam should be read through so that there are not 20 errors, very frustrating for the students and very disrespectful from the teacher. The reports should be corrected within a few weeks after handed in, if the students are supposed to hand them in, the teacher should be able to correct them in time. »
- teacher,TAs,projects and exam»
- administration. teacher and co-teachers. workload per points. exam should be removed/better handled. grading. course material. planning.»
- The exercises. Didn"t have anything to do with the exam. The TA:s wasn"t motivated to teach and so on... »
- The course literature. The way that TA behaves and thinks, otherwise he"d better go home!»
- The TA"s! They have to start changing the exercises, start to explain the theory and solve some questions for us.»
- LAB Projects should be more clear»
- The book, it is too expensive. Make sure that the exam has been proof-read before the examination. It is not acceptable that five of six exam questions have typos, especially when the typos render the questions incoherent, e.g. question 1. The lab material used in lab 2 (echo cancellation) was extremely instable. The grading system. Use the traditional system with a normal exam and bonus points for the labs and hand-ins. Equalize the workload between the lab projects. Lab 1a demanded a fair amount of time while lab 1b was just a copy-and-paste exercise. Also, hand out the two parts at the same time so that the students don"t risk doing the same things twice and so that the assignment will be easier to understand. Proof-reading. Please proof-read hand-in assignments, the written exam and the lab projects instructions BEFORE handing them out.»
- The last oral exam should not be after deadline for this evaluation. And I think to this deadline should be later, I Think this last examination should be earlier. The workload should be smaller. The results should be published earlier. There should be old exams too learn or the exam should be more similar to the excercise or a test-exam without grading, so that you know what would be the main points of the exam.»
- Less work»
- Time schedule i.e all the oral exams should be taken before the written exam...the exercises....»
- Exercise sessions should be improved»
- The designing of the exercises sessions is not so good.The problems discussed there are not useful to understand the course material.»

16. Additional comments

- The assistants could be more motivated. It seems there was more work for the course personnel than expected. The projects should be finished and graded before the exam, not in january.»
- the teachers good. but i think the tutor is not that good»
- The course is bad.It has very few study materials,and We have no idea what to learn.»
- it is very good for the lecture, but the exercise should add some thing such as a further explanation of the topic related in the lecture.»
- A little strange planning of course. It was theoretically posibble to being able to pass course without taking the exam due to good results of project and hand ins during period. But for the last oral part doesn"t take part until after exam and the grade of first project and oral exams where not posted before exam so we couldn"t know if we passed it or not before.»
- The worst course ive taken on chalmers so far,»
- lab 2 felt a bit unescessary to have the week before the exams. the exam did not have the content that tomas stated on the homepage. i thought the exam would have more system and understanding feel to it. but it turned out that there was alot of calculations, which tomas said it wouldn"t be.»
- Alot of errors in the exam paper.»
- there was a bad synchronization between the teacher and the assistants. project grades should be posted before the final exam. and oral exam after one month is not logical at all.»
- It"s not ok to have so many errors in the final examination thesis. But i guess you already know this.»
- Tomas is kind, but not in a good way of teaching. He should study from 2 Eriks(Erik Strom and Erik agrell). We need slides, not copying notes in the lecture, which makes that we have no time to consider but just copy. About the 2 TAs, the lady is kind but her voice in too low, and she should explain the solution to us, and the angry guy should be changed. Too many projects in this quarter and without enough guild, oral exam is useless, we need to understand the content instead of memorizing it. And the written exam is too bad, we didn"t get enough information from the teaching staff.»
- Se other comments! This type of course need a lot of improvements!»
- I home my comments work. Because I and a lot of other students have passed a nightmare last quarter.»
- It"s always easier to write the bad things of a course, than the good things.»
- It would have been better if the reading directions is given well in advance.»
- - Planering Vi anser att kursen har en struktur på det sätt att det är svårt för den enskilde studenten att kunna planera och ha framförhållning. Finns mycket dålig information på vad som kan pluggas på. Exempelvis har det legat ett dokument på hemsidan med övningsuppgifter som gås igenom på övningstillfällena. Detta dokument innehåller bara lv 2 uppgifter, sedan dess har det inte blivit uppdaterat. Den sista muntan som hålls för projekt 3 har inte läraren lyckats planera in denna period. Eftersom projektinlämningen inte ska ske förrän fredag innan tentaveckan så hinner man inte med att ha muntan innan lovet. Dessutom är läraren bortrest lv 7, så man har inte möjlighet att göra muntan tidigare. Ganska stressande att inte ha möjligheten att avsluta kursen under planerad tid. - Poängen Hela kursen är uppbyggd på att studenter genom bra arbete skall kunna klara kursen utan att behöva skriva tentan. Detta förutsätter dock att man fått reda på sina poäng innan tentatillfället, eftersom poängen från projekt och handin endast gäller ordinarietentan. Eftersom sista muntan inte görs förrän efter jul är detta omöjligt. Dessutom har vi fortfarande inte fått reda på poängen på varken muntorna eller projekten ännu och då är det 7 dagar kvar till tentatillfället. Eftersom man som student ofta har mer än en tenta så kan prioriteringen på hur mycket pluggtid man lägger på de olika tentorna definitivt bero på hur många bonuspoäng man har samlat ihop. Deadline för inlämningarna har varit: hand in 1 - måndag lv3 , uppgiftsbeskrivning utlämnad tis lv2 projekt 1a - fredag lv 3, uppgiftsbeskrivning utlämnad mån lv2 hand in 2 - måndag lv 5, uppgiftsbeskrivning utlämnad tis lv4 projekt 1b - fredag lv 5, uppgiftsbeskrivning utlämnad mån lv4 hand in 3 - måndag lv 7, uppgiftsbeskrivning utlämnad tis lv6 projekt 2- fredag lv 7, uppgiftsbeskrivning utlämnad mån lv6 Kunde kanske även ha påbörjat inlämningarna tidigare, så att inte sista datumen blivit i lv 7. - Tenta Eftersom det är första året som man har tenta i denna kurs, finns inga tidigare tentor att plugga på. När man då inte har några direkta uppgifthänvisningar och heller inga direkta sidhänvisningar, är det mycket svårt att veta på vilket sätt tentan är utformad och vad den kan komma att innehåll. Vad som finns är ett planeringsdokument som innehåller titeln på varje föreläsning. -Kommunikationen med läraren Vad som troligtvis är det som är mest irriterande förutom det att man inte får reda på vilka poäng man får, är att det stundtals är mycket svårt att få tag på läraren. Man får en uppfattning om att han svarar på de mail som han känner för. Bland annat har ett mail för ungefär en vecka sedan skickats angående vad som man bör koncentrera sig på inför tentan. Detta har vi ännu inte fått något svar på, inte ens ett mail där det står att han inte kan svara på detta. Eftersom han är bortrest denna veckan har man istället valt att prata med övningshandledarna, men då dessutom dessa verkar ha mycket svårt att få tag på honom, börjar man känna sig något uppgiven. »

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