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Requirements engineering, Lp1 HT-10, DAT230 / DIT276

Status: Avslutad
Öppen för svar: 2010-10-25 - 2010-10-31
Antal svar: 56
Procent av deltagarna som svarat: 29%
Kontaktperson: Victoria Ewers»

Your own effort

1. How many hours per week did you spend on this course?*

56 svarande

At most 15 hours/week»6 10%
Around 20 hours/week»16 28%
Around 25 hours/week»15 26%
Around 30 hours/week»15 26%
At least 35 hours/week»4 7%

Genomsnitt: 2.91 (bidrar till totalt genomsnitt/jämförelseindex)

2. How large part of the teaching offered did you attend?*

56 svarande

0%»0 0%
25%»1 1%
50%»5 8%
75%»22 39%
100%»28 50%

Genomsnitt: 4.37 (bidrar till totalt genomsnitt/jämförelseindex)

Genomsnitt totalt för detta stycke: 3.64

Goals and goal fulfilment

3. How understandable are the course goals?

56 svarande

I have not seen/read the goals»9 16%
The goals are difficult to understand»1 1%
The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer»17 30%
The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn»29 51%

Genomsnitt: 3.17

4. Are the goals reasonable considering your background and the number of credits?

51 svarande

No, the goals are set too low»0 0%
Yes, the goals seem reasonable»47 92%
No, the goals are set too high»4 7%

Genomsnitt: 2.07

5. Did the examination assess whether you have reached the goals?

56 svarande

(på denna fråga var det möjligt att välja flera svarsalternativ)

No, not at all»3 5%
To some extent»24 42%
Yes, definitely»28 50%
I don"t know/have not been examined yet»4 7%

- The final exam consisted of much "What are your thoughts on ...?", "Argue why ... ", etc.. Such questions are hard for students to assess how much time they need to spend on each question. » (To some extent)
- Examinations in this kind of course will always be incomplete, and only messure the amount of names of methodes remembred.» (To some extent)
- the exam was too long to finish within 4h, I think the duration of the exam which had been done should be around 5h or the questions should minimized a little bit» (To some extent)
- Some of the questions in the examine were impractical and simply tested the student"s ability to do math quickly.» (Yes, definitely)
- We had no calculator to do one task properly and it was more oriented on memory rather than how well you understood overall picture of RE.» (To some extent, Yes, definitely)
- Exam questions do not focus on our understanding but memorizing. » (To some extent)
- Given the material covered in the course, I don"t think the written exam was very well designed. It tested certain pieces of information instead of broad area of knowledge.» (To some extent)
- I have not read the course goals explicitly, but feel that the exam tested what we worked with during the course» ()
- Very good exam in general. Would have been nice if you would have been allowed to write one requirement that covered many attributes instead of one for each.» (Yes, definitely)
- It could be much better with longer time and more challenging questions.» (Yes, definitely)
- The questions was good, however, the time of the exam was not much to answer all the analytical questions perfectly.» (Yes, definitely)

Teaching and course administration

6. To what extent has the teaching been of help for your learning?

56 svarande

Small extent»1 1%
To some extent»16 28%
Large extent»28 50%
Great extent»11 19%

Genomsnitt: 2.87

- Probably the worst lectures and exercises I have attended to at Chalmers. Speak as loud as you can exercises/lectures simply are not my cup of tea. Please bring some order in to class.» (Small extent)
- The ONLY plus side of the course has been adding a video presentation after each lecture.» (To some extent)
- Teaching have been extremely non-pedagogical. Topics go into each other and it was hard to find a red thread to follow.» (To some extent)
- There was too little concrete teaching of the different elicitation/specification techniques. There should have been thorough introductions of each technique in the lectures.» (To some extent)
- The more practice oriented exercises could had more potential I think. It was a good idea to have them, but the structure (or lack thereof) was causing it to be somewhat less useful than it could have been.» (Large extent)
- Excellent lectures by Dr.Robert Feldt. The exercises conducted by the assistants need a lot of improvement. » (Large extent)
- Robert Feldt is a good teacher!» (Large extent)
- The professor worked in industry and he has shared his experience with us and guided us extremely brillant» (Great extent)
- The lectures where very good! I especially liked the fact that it reffered to current research (a bit uncommon for other chalmers courses, unfourtunately). The fact that they where videorecorded was also really helpful! » (Great extent)
- Robert has explained every topic from an industrial view point which was great!» (Great extent)

7. To what extent has the course literature and other material been of help for your learning?

55 svarande

Small extent»3 5%
Some extent»17 30%
Large extent»30 54%
Great extent»5 9%

Genomsnitt: 2.67

- Just skimmed through the main coursebook. In my opinion the lectures and linked papers where so good the book did not offer anything of value. In fact it felt outdated, being based around "design-upfront" model based RE as apposed to more agile practices.» (Some extent)
- Ridicules that most supervisors think that the main course book is bad and that we should read the secondary book.» (Some extent)
- The books were not so good. Espacially the first one (In Practice)» (Some extent)
- The book called JERM was really helpfull, but the other book was not that good. Would probably been enough with the book JERM.» (Some extent)
- The main book was to academical, not interesting and not helpful for study.» (Some extent)
- "Just Enough Requirements Engineering" was without a doubt the most rewarding book to read. If possible, I believe it would be a better choice of main course book.» (Large extent)
- The JERM book was much better than the other book.» (Large extent)
- JERM was great. The other not so much.» (Large extent)
- It was good, however, I think some techniques such as I* were academical which are not use in the real world.» (Large extent)
- But there were too much resources and the time was limited. Better to have specific reference so that the time for the term can be easier to divide it for the assignment and reading.» (Large extent)
- Actually i like the course very much. The book and the articles were very helpful to understand the subject.» (Great extent)
- Just Enough Requirements was a lot better book than the actual course book» (Great extent)

8. How well did the course administration, web page, handouts etc work?

56 svarande

Very badly»1 1%
Rather badly»6 10%
Rather well»30 53%
Very well»19 33%

Genomsnitt: 3.19

- a lack of work/time by the supervisors.» (Very badly)
- There was some downtime and during that time an additional home page was used. » (Rather badly)
- Especially arranging the interviews » (Rather badly)
- Papers to be read before a lecture were often put on the web site rather late and it was unclear from the information there how the exercises worked.» (Rather badly)
- There should have been a correct timeedit-schedule or at least a correct and complete calender that could have been imported to google calendar. The schedule available on the homepage was badly updated and did not show e.g. exercises. Uploading of slides and audio from the lectures was very good.» (Rather badly)
- Things were anounced with to short notice! We were not able to plan our time.» (Rather badly)
- Announcements about further meetings were late, » (Rather badly)
- i think there is not frame for that and push to gather sometimes it was difficult find them and for example for P-langue there was not any teaching like BBDC and I* just introduce it and one link but one of the exam question was that but it was not mandatory in lab because some groups do not it in lab and that was reason some students cannot response this question » (Rather well)
- Well structured.» (Rather well)
- Some things (for instance workshop planning) was announced on the home page a bit late which makes it hard to plan against other group assignments otherwise the course homepage was excellent.» (Rather well)
- The course administration was good, but there was some times delay on posting the lecture and exercises.» (Rather well)
- Video-recordings was as stated before superb! » (Very well)

Study climate

9. How were the opportunities for asking questions and getting help?

56 svarande

Very poor»3 5%
Rather poor»5 8%
Rather good»18 32%
Very good»24 42%
I did not seek help»6 10%

Genomsnitt: 3.44

- I think the questions was not standard because just lab questions every body doing another lab in exam that was like match because the time was not enough for doing all questions really more questions and just lab questions if that was home exam yea it was good ever body can solve it without stress at home in 1 day for 4 hours really more. i think 4 hours exam time is suable for memorize exam not special and lab exam so tiredly » (Very poor)
- again a lack of time/work by supervisors » (Very poor)
- Basically no help with group assignment. All time went for the interviews.» (Rather poor)
- There was no supervision for project. We just had meetings with "customers". When we had some questions regarding methods we were supposed to use, it was no specials sessions and supervision» (Rather poor)
- It would have been nice if there was a little more time to get specific questions or issues handled. Although I do understand that with a group as large as this it"s very difficult to realize this.» (Rather good)
- Everyone were helpful, but as always times was severely limited.» (Rather good)
- Good under the circumstances (many students)» (Rather good)
- There was a barrier to talk to the teacher and assistance any time as the course was given in johannesburg and their office is in lindholmen.» (Rather good)
- The professor and the assistants were willing to help us. Thus, it was fun to have this course.» (Very good)

10. How well has cooperation between you and your fellow students worked?

56 svarande

Very poorly»6 10%
Rather poorly»8 14%
Rather well»22 39%
Very well»20 35%
I did not seek coopeation»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 3

- To many exchange students with weak English and writing skills.» (Very poorly)
- This was the only thing not working well. The foreign students in our group didn"t contribute with to much and of what they contributed it was all poorly written and had to be rewritten. The other problem was the language barrier. They couldn"t talk good enough english and this created problems within the group. So even if there is some language tests we feel that they have to be more advanced. Or in someway check that people can"t cheat on them.» (Very poorly)
- I was in a group where some people barely could speak english, this was a huge problem. In the group assignment 1 guy didn"t do anything at all and 2 other guys didn"t put in much of an effort either.» (Very poorly)
- All of our exchange student had very poor english, were always late or didnt show up too meetings, and we had to redo most of their contributions if any on the group assignment.» (Very poorly)
- As per usual when doing group work with random people without knowing their academic background the group dynamic is much up to chance or luck. If you are in a good group where people actually take their education seriously, you might get extra points on the exam. If not, then you are screwed and might have to put in extra hours in order to do their work as well.» (Rather poorly)
- We had little time to get to know each other, so lack of verbal communication, result in misunderstanding and work quality» (Rather poorly)
- The group I was in had a couple of members that did not contribute. Language skills were exceptionally bad in some cases.» (Rather poorly)
- The number of students in a group was too much and difficult to manage the aim.» (Rather poorly)
- since it was a randomly chosen group for the project, I had some difficulties but despite that we made a good project.» (Rather well)
- » (Rather well)
- Group of seven people is rather big for such project.» (Rather well)
- The group project was the smoothest, most enjoyable I"ve ever experienced in a university environment. And I say this despite having "lost" the little competition between pairs of groups..» (Very well)
- Some missunderstandingr in the beginning, but that is only natural eith students from so many countries and culturs.» (Very well)
- I think it went well.» (Very well)

Summarizing questions

11. What is your general impression of the course?

56 svarande

Poor»6 10%
Fair»2 3%
Adequate»11 19%
Good»28 50%
Excellent»9 16%

Genomsnitt: 3.57

- Personality test, poorly designed group assignment, bonus points on the exam based on group achievement, etc..» (Poor)
- Very immature course.» (Poor)
- First off, the examinator said that there should be a competition between 2 groups for 3 extra points on the exam. But in our groups competition neither of the groups got 3 extra points in the end. I think it"s aweful to tell the rules at the first day of the course and then change them after the presentations are done.» (Poor)
- Bad organisation of exercise sessions, no supervision for project, late schedule for meetings with customer, so overload during last days» (Poor)
- I like how the project part worked. It felt somewhat like a realworld scenario.» (Adequate)
- Would have been excellent if the group work would have worked.» (Adequate)
- We, the group members that where not exchange students, had to work our asses of to compensate for the rest of the group (3 members doing the work of 7 members ). » (Adequate)
- I would recommend this course to other students due to it"s content as well as Robert being a good teacher.» (Good)
- In general a very good course! Way too heavy work load though, especially depending on what kind of group you wound up in. My work in other course of the study period had to suffer a lot towards the end.» (Good)
- It was a great idea to record the lectures and share with students. It helps students who have poor listening.» (Good)
- The course is good, but the knowledge we got is only for water fall, like the requirements get gathered at first and then specified and then priotitize....... I would prefer if i did know more on agile. I personally did not get enough knowledge on how i can work with agile requirements in real. It was just one class about Agile. I would prefer if i had two or more lectured on Agile.» (Good)
- I am interested in this topic and this course broaden my mind.» (Excellent)

12. What should definitely be preserved to next year?

- The project (practical learning beats reading-only every time)»
- The group assignment & the post-mortem report.»
- The lectures and format of the lectures was very nice. In particular the combination of the lectures and the exercises and group project.»
- Everything should be same with this year, may be some additional guest lectures will contribute.»
- The project»
- The video recordings and the group assignment. (& Dr. Feldt ,)»
- the group project, but with additional time.»
- project groups competition, Robers Fedlet»
- group assignment»
- Recording of lectures.»
- The team is arranged perfectly. The interaction between the team and customers is a good design.»
- Everything except points mentioned in question 13 next.»
- Group working. Recording all lectures and putting it online to download. Not so formality behavior of lecturer should remain,it is fun and friendly.»
- Everything is fine.»
- Group Assignment »
- The SRS document»
- The group assignment, to practice the methods on a case was stimulating and handle the issues that rise when trying to elicit as many requirements as possible. It would have been fun to see the "facit", the percentage of requirements uncovered and what system Ali and Ana really had in mind»
- the project, the lecturer»
- The project.»
- The project work, all thu there should be a little bit more time for it. Not necessarily more time for doing the project, but more time for getting to know eachother before starting working on the project and to have some more meetings before the first elicitation meeting.»
- Robert Feldt and the supervisors, very nice and pedagogic.»
- The project (if possible with more time allocated for it). Lectures were great, especially that they were recorded and uploaded.»
- Clear source of studies and more working classes»
- The simulated RE project, which is a bit hard for me, but very good.»
- the home page and the recording for the lectures,,,it helps sooo much»
- The lectures maybe....»
- More practices to obtain requirements»
- I guess if we have more lectures it would be better in my opinion.»
- increase number of lectueres»
- Lectures, the way of teaching, group project»
- Additional book.»
- The lecturer and the assistance were good. »
- The group assignment is very useful to put all you learn into practice.»
- more time for the group assignment and more competent TS »

13. What should definitely be changed to next year?

- The customer interviews scheduled should be announced well before in advance.»
- The group assignment was very loosely defined and there was difficult to get a grip on how the grading would be done. The assignment was also missing an important individual report where student got to individually grade the other members of the group according to how much time/work that they had put in to the group assignment.»
- The main course book was rather difficult to read. The information itself was good, but the writing style was very dry and academic. »
- I did not see anything to be changed.»
- Maybe a little more time for the project»
- Exercises, lectures, pedagogy within the teacher and assistants (except Ali)»
- I found the invidual assignments lackluster. Actually, the one invidual assignment that was somewhat relevant to the course was cancelled. »
- I think if examiner decided take written exam with special question i think its beater spot a more than 4 hours or take a home exam no written exam.HOME exam instead of written exam 2-more home assignment because ever body in week trying do lab but cannot study course during quarter »
- The first individual assignment made me really angry, it had NOTHING to do with anything, and, to my knowlage, was not used in grading. The second assignment had something to do with software, but NOTHING to do with requirements.»
- 1. the teacher should send a copy of others group work to their opposite after the hand-in of project and before 2 days of the interview with the customer so they can show the customer why they should buy their project 2. the way and size of the exam... I think its not fair to have a simple exam that contains some questions which depends on the examiner"s way of evaluating the answers beside having it toooo long»
- none»
- Lecture structure. Course book. Group formation.»
- Most things are good.»
- -JERM book should be mandatory, the other one additional. -Exercises should be conducted better -Course project should commence sooner»
- Group working members must know each other from start of course and know each other more close before starting to work. Example of examination tickets must be provided to get acquainted with exam structure. Before presentation we must be guided and given good hints about ho to do it and guide it ,) »
- Group assignment take lots of time to do so it can be changed.»
- Exam questions should be improved. »
- The JERM book because it was not available»
- Competition mode felt a bit counterproductive to learning»
- more time with clients, more strict guidelines on what the SRS should contain. Somewhere in the course material it was stated that requirements does not contain solutions of a stated problem. We tried to avoid solutions in our SRS, unlike our opponents at the workshop had lots of solutions which seemed to attract the "customers". Rather annoying.»
- Less comprehensive assignment and groups should be self organized as I was not able to collaborate at all with my group peers. I think that a student should be responsible for creating his own knowledge and success, this was not the case as I felt that I could have done a better job alone than with the group I was assigned to, which resulted in me dropping the course.»
- The evaluation of the project. The one-to-one comparison is a very unfair system for dealing out bonus points. Also, we were informed that the SRS would be very important, yet in the end the points were only dealt out based on the presentation. While it was said that "this is how it works in industry", fact is this is academia which should be "fair".»
- It was difficult to work in such large groups, if possible, limit number of students on the course.»
- Exercises were super crowded and at times chaotic. BDDC lecture was sub par, heavily focused on Cucumber ruby/rails. Why?»
- Delete extra books and try to focus just on the materiel which we need to know much better»
- Better planning of the practical aspects of the course»
- number of the members in the group assignment»
- Allow the students to make groups for the group assignment theirself instead of putting one together, that worked awefully bad this year. You should change the project scope aswell, it was way to big for the credits you earn from it.»
- If two or three extra lectures are added it will be great.»
- Nothing much»
- nothing»
- number of students in a group should be less than 6!»
- project to be startted very early in the course»
- Organisation of exercises and project, less students for the course and in each group.»
- It is not easy for a student to buy two books for one subject. Considering this, it is better to select one course book which can include all the required concepts. »
- The extension of the group assignment is huge, so it"d better be started sooner.»
- the TS maybe or the course schedule »

14. Additional comments

- The sound in the lecture videos was really low.»
- As i said it was a very beneficial course and it was fun to have this course with the professor and the assistants.»
- Excellent course by an inspiring teacher»
- 1-in this course, time was not enough for questions 2-more homework and assignment with out spot that students have a another course too a 3- the exam questions was just about lab and that take more time for example cost value questions i think it will be beater select home exam instead of written exam. »
- I learnt a lot from this course but unfortunately my grades will never reflect that. The written exam was extremely lengthy. It was at least a 6 hour exam! I could have scored 5 easily! But the way it went o the exam day was that I hurried into every question and could not answer to the best of my abilities. Which is harsh!»
- :) thanks»
- Very disappointed in this course.»
- Otherwise very satisfied with the course. Good job!»
- At times disrespectful attitude from TAs. They did seem to be overworked though.»
- Tnx :)»
- The simulated RE project is very good, offers us opportunities to learn by practise, and while using those methods, we know very clear about the advantages and drawbacks about them.»
- I think the attitude of some supervisors and the examinator were too hard. Try to make the students more motivated with a softer attitude instead of trying to get respect with an authoritarian attitude, that doesn"t work in 2010.»
- If we get more practices to gather requirements in the exercise classes it will be better for us.»
- Course is vast and it takes time to grab, and also the prescribed text book is not the best»
- I dont understand how so many of the exchange students even where able to be accepted to the masters program as, where you clearly state, this is a higher level of education than that of the bachelor programs. »
- We were supposed to spent 65 hours per person during two weeks. Groups consisted of students from different universities, that made it more difficult for group meetings»
- It will be good if teacher share the best 5 assignment tasks with all the students, so that they can see what was missing in their work, and what others did well as compare to others »

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Genomsnitt totalt för alla frågor: 3.64
Beräknat jämförelseindex: 0.66

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