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Discrete event control and optimization, SSY220, HT2010

Status: Avslutad
Öppen för svar: 2010-10-11 - 2010-10-25
Antal svar: 17
Procent av deltagarna som svarat: 41%
Kontaktperson: Madeleine Persson»

Your own effort

1. How many hours per week did you spend on this course?

We mean total time, that is, it comprises the time you spent in class and the time you spent on your own work. Try to estimate the average time over the entire study period.

17 svarande

At most 15 hours/week»2 11%
Around 20 hours/week»2 11%
Around 25 hours/week»6 35%
Around 30 hours/week»2 11%
At least 35 hours/week»5 29%

Genomsnitt: 3.35

- Paper writing tasks were quite time consuming» (Around 30 hours/week)
- Way too much, teacher have to understand that his course is based on 20 h per week, with additional work at home. With all this handins all other courses are suffering!» (At least 35 hours/week)

2. How large part of the teaching offered did you attend?

17 svarande

0%»1 5%
25%»2 11%
50%»2 11%
75%»1 5%
100%»11 64%

Genomsnitt: 4.11

- The lectures were not interesting enough. » (25%)
- Because of lack of time because of too many handins!!!» (50%)
- all but one» (100%)
- More or less 100%.» (100%)

Goals and goal fulfilment

The course syllabus states the course goals in terms of learning outcomes, i.e., knowledge, skills and attitudes to be acquired by the student during the course.

3. How understandable are the course goals?

17 svarande

I have not seen/read the goals»4 23%
The goals are difficult to understand»2 11%
The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer»3 17%
The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn»8 47%

Genomsnitt: 2.88

- I think there should be a backtrack in the end of the course to see that all the course goals have been fulfilled.» (The goals are difficult to understand)
- The goal mostly talks about SCT (supervisory control theory) but it has been given a very small time within the lectures.» (The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer)

4. Are the goals reasonable considering your background and the number of credits?

Answer this this question and the succeeding one, only if you do know the course goals.

16 svarande

No, the goals are set too low»3 18%
Yes, the goals seem reasonable»13 81%
No, the goals are set too high»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.81

- The course should deal with discrete event systems a little more than optimization.» (No, the goals are set too low)
- didn"t read them» (Yes, the goals seem reasonable)

5. Did the examination assess whether you have reached the goals?

17 svarande

No, not at all»0 0%
To some extent»4 23%
Yes, definitely»6 35%
I don"t know/have not been examined yet»7 41%

Genomsnitt: 3.17

- Some questions were very easy while some were ridiculously hard. Where is the balance? How can the last question be solved in 2-3 hours, considering it was harder than the assignment, which we had several weeks available to solve, in groups...» (To some extent)

Teaching and course administration

6. To what extent has the teaching been of help for your learning?

17 svarande

Small extent»3 17%
Some extent»3 17%
Large extent»7 41%
Great extent»4 23%

Genomsnitt: 2.7

7. To what extent has the course literature and other material been of help for your learning?

17 svarande

Small extent»6 35%
Some extent»5 29%
Large extent»5 29%
Great extent»1 5%

Genomsnitt: 2.05

- The only course literature we got was some handwritten lecture notes.» (Small extent)
- What course literature?» (Small extent)
- Not much course literature to talk about. Just some lecture notes. I would liked to have some kind papper with exercises and solution to.» (Small extent)
- No litterature, this is not Okey with careless notes in pdfs. Last year you did got bad evaluation of your material and this year no improvement are done.» (Small extent)
- Old exams were most helpful.» (Some extent)

8. How well did the course administration, web page, handouts etc work?

17 svarande

Very badly»0 0%
Rather badly»2 11%
Rather well»11 64%
Very well»4 23%

Genomsnitt: 3.11

- got started very late» (Rather badly)
- old exams were not uploaded rather it was told to find them in the archived home pages three days before examination.» (Rather well)
- Worked, but it could be better to have some automated grouping and hand-in system. Was not very convenient to use just e-mails.» (Rather well)

Study climate

9. How were the opportunities for asking questions and getting help?

17 svarande

Very poor»0 0%
Rather poor»2 11%
Rather good»4 23%
Very good»10 58%
I did not seek help»1 5%

Genomsnitt: 3.58

- The only opportunity was to ask during breaks in classes, or in the office of the teacher.» (Rather poor)
- This was very good!» (Very good)

10. How well has cooperation between you and your fellow students worked?

17 svarande

Very poorly»0 0%
Rather poorly»2 11%
Rather well»2 11%
Very well»13 76%
I did not seek cooperation»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 3.64

11. How was the course workload?

17 svarande

Too low»1 5%
Low»0 0%
Adequate»2 11%
High»6 35%
Too high»8 47%

Genomsnitt: 4.17

- It would be nice with more hand-ins. I feel they have helped me evolve as a student.» (Too low)
- Ridiculous amount of handins, reviews, reviews of reviews, reviews of reviews of reviews, reviews of reviews of reviews of reviews of reviews...» (High)
- Too many hand-ins and deadlines» (High)
- T o much focus on writing reports. Sure you learn the material, but you learn it even better if you are forced to use it in an assignment. Maybe 1 large (graded) report and 2 assignments next year?» (Too high)
- This course has a lot of assignments, peer reviews, rework» (Too high)
- The hand-ins were time consuming, taking time from doing exercises and from the other course. On the other hand I learned a lot from the hand-ins and prefere that way to learn theory, rather than studying for an exam.» (Too high)
- Too many papers, reviews, reviews of reviews and rework on papers not to mention the assignment.» (Too high)
- As said before, to much focus on handind» (Too high)
- During these weeks I"ve been doing nothing but writing DECO reports and hand-ins, I didnt have time to prepare for the exam in neither of my subjects...» (Too high)
- The theory tasks took too much time in regards to the actual content. One theory task would have been enough!» (Too high)

12. How was the total workload this study period?

17 svarande

Too low»0 0%
Low»1 5%
Adequate»2 11%
High»9 52%
Too high»5 29%

Genomsnitt: 4.05

Summarizing questions

13. What is your general impression of the course?

17 svarande

Poor»1 5%
Fair»4 23%
Adequate»5 29%
Good»4 23%
Excellent»3 17%

Genomsnitt: 3.23

- Not what I was seeking.» (Poor)
- Not much new knowledge gained. The only thing is simplex.» (Fair)
- There are other courses that deal with optimization continuous and discrete and should be taken as a pre-requiset for this course. the course should have briefly discuss optimization in no more than two weeks and focus the rest on discrete event systems.» (Fair)
- Seems like a merging of the Introduction to Discrete Event Systems course and Optimization, basic course.» (Adequate)
- The course is very interesting but the lectures are very boring. some measures should be taken to make the lectures interesting.» (Adequate)
- It was a lot to do with all hand-ins, but it is a realy good way to learn.» (Good)

14. What should definitely be preserved to next year?

- The hand-ins and assignments. »
- The assignment and the hand-ins.»
- The assignment was interesting, should be preserved»
- The assignment. Also the way lectures have been. Both handing out notes and writing on the board is good, because I can choose how to learn best. I"m happy with how things have been explained and illustrated.»
- Nothing. Maybe one assignment and a paper.»
- The assignment was quite good!»

15. What should definitely be changed to next year?

- More hand-ins and assignments. Maybe some course literature.»
- Remove course»
- The amount of report writing/reading. A paper with exercises and solutions should be added.»
- The course material, since almost every student I talked to think that around 90% of the course is just repetition.»
- The teacher should change his style and give lectures in a more interesting way in order to attract students" attention.»
- Probably too many hand-ins. It is useful for the students that are going to PhD, but for others more practical tasks could be better. Lecture notes could also be written better. Not just a hand-written scans.»
- Maybe two hand-ins are enough, encouraging doing more exercises.»
- The course outline.»
- Think about fewer steps in each handin. To write coursematerial on your own, in computer.»
- No review of review of the review of the reviews please! And more information on how to solve the assignments, they were very hard.»
- The theory tasks. One group should do one instead of three theory tasks and then two groups could review them more carefully, In that way every group will get the necessary information but will only be the author to one task. In order to lessen the work load of the course!»

16. Additional comments

- the course must get started earlier in the period. This period I had two courses that didn"t start properly until the middle of the second week. This meant a large work load from the sixth week and forward»
- The course is a bit strange, it"s basically a mixture of optimization and introduction to discrete event systems, why mix those two? Also the exam was nearly only about optimization.»

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