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Logic in computer science, Lp1-H10, DAT060/DIT201

Status: Avslutad
Öppen för svar: 2010-10-14 - 2010-10-31
Antal svar: 27
Procent av deltagarna som svarat: 21%
Kontaktperson: Victoria Ewers»

Your own effort

1. How many hours per week did you spend on this course?*

27 svarande

At most 15 hours/week»16 59%
Around 20 hours/week»8 29%
Around 25 hours/week»3 11%
Around 30 hours/week»0 0%
At least 35 hours/week»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.51 (bidrar till totalt genomsnitt/jämförelseindex)

2. How large part of the teaching offered did you attend?*

27 svarande

0%»1 3%
25%»4 14%
50%»1 3%
75%»10 37%
100%»11 40%

Genomsnitt: 3.96 (bidrar till totalt genomsnitt/jämförelseindex)

Genomsnitt totalt för detta stycke: 2.74

Goals and goal fulfilment

3. How understandable are the course goals?

27 svarande

I have not seen/read the goals»9 33%
The goals are difficult to understand»1 3%
The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer»5 18%
The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn»12 44%

Genomsnitt: 2.74

4. Are the goals reasonable considering your background and the number of credits?

24 svarande

No, the goals are set too low»2 8%
Yes, the goals seem reasonable»22 91%
No, the goals are set too high»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.91

5. Did the examination assess whether you have reached the goals?

27 svarande

(på denna fråga var det möjligt att välja flera svarsalternativ)

No, not at all»2 7%
To some extent»3 11%
Yes, definitely»7 25%
I don"t know/have not been examined yet»14 51%

- Nice exercises, different levels of difficulty. From all chapters.» (Yes, definitely)
- It was hard to know what was expected on the exam.» (To some extent)
- The exam was too hard, as compared to the course material and the lectures" level of difficulty.» (To some extent)

Teaching and course administration

6. To what extent has the teaching been of help for your learning?

27 svarande

Small extent»4 14%
To some extent»13 48%
Large extent»8 29%
Great extent»2 7%

Genomsnitt: 2.29

- having 2 teacher is not good ,I think Thiery should be only lecturer» (Small extent)
- I had personally studied most of the course contents through other courses.» (Small extent)
- The book is also pretty clear» (To some extent)
- I could not attend some courses because of overlapping.» (To some extent)
- good, but a bit slow» (To some extent)
- I especially liked Håkans exercise sessions.» (Great extent)

7. To what extent has the course literature and other material been of help for your learning?

27 svarande

Small extent»1 3%
Some extent»5 18%
Large extent»11 40%
Great extent»10 37%

Genomsnitt: 3.11

- Only slides were available. The book was not available at Cremona.» (Some extent)
- the lectures specially problem solvings can not be found in course homepage which is anoying if u don`t write anything during the class if u r absent for any kind of reason.» (Some extent)
- Good book.» (Large extent)
- The book was very helpful and well written.» (Large extent)
- The book is pretty clear» (Great extent)
- The book is really awesome!» (Great extent)
- The book lacked on exercices that later came on the exam. I would have prefered more execrices conserning CTL and LTL formulas. Excersices on natural deduction was perfect, it could have been more difficult problems on the exam.» (Great extent)

8. How well did the course administration, web page, handouts etc work?

27 svarande

Very badly»2 7%
Rather badly»6 22%
Rather well»17 62%
Very well»2 7%

Genomsnitt: 2.7

- There were 2 different home pages with different information. There were a lot of documents, to download, but no explanation of what to use them for. I could also only found one old exam, the same exam that was presented in class. I would prefer more exams.» (Very badly)
- Two different course homepages.. Also I didn"t like that ALL exercises were recommended in some parts of the course since it was impossible to do them all.» (Very badly)
- Get your shit together about the course web pages. One is adequate. » (Rather badly)
- to get the course problem solving sessions must be found in course homepage,but there are just some recomended excersises that most of them doesn`t have solutions. » (Rather badly)
- there were two versions of course webpage, the URL was unknown/unreachable for the first few weeks, poor web administration » (Rather badly)
- It would be great to have more old exams available online, and also some written notes for the lectures.» (Rather well)
- There was some confusion about which URL the course website really had, because there were two versions.» (Rather well)
- Good overall, though the exercise sessions were somewhat disorganized.» (Rather well)
- In the beginning of the course, two homepages were available, which was very confusing » (Rather well)

Study climate

9. How were the opportunities for asking questions and getting help?

27 svarande

Very poor»3 11%
Rather poor»2 7%
Rather good»8 29%
Very good»4 14%
I did not seek help»10 37%

Genomsnitt: 3.59

- There were no exercise sessions where the teachers were simply available for questions, no office hours and when I asked whether there were any opportunities to seek help I got a very vague answer. However, once I had e-mailed the teachers and managed to get the office hours of Thierry he was VERY helpful and took the time to explain concepts in detail. So "Very poor" is a bit of a stretch, it was very difficult to get help but once I got help the help was very good.» (Very poor)
- I would like booked class room where I could ask questions and also sit down and do the excercices.» (Very poor)
- I have sent 3 email with questions before exam to Hakan and teacher 1 out of 3 replied.» (Rather poor)
- The teachers were very helpful and willing to answer questions. The TA in charge of the exercises was unable to answer several questions which were not truly difficult.» (Rather good)

10. How well has cooperation between you and your fellow students worked?

27 svarande

Very poorly»1 3%
Rather poorly»3 11%
Rather well»7 25%
Very well»4 14%
I did not seek coopeation»12 44%

Genomsnitt: 3.85

Summarizing questions

11. What is your general impression of the course?

27 svarande

Poor»1 3%
Fair»0 0%
Adequate»6 22%
Good»16 59%
Excellent»4 14%

Genomsnitt: 3.81

- Thierry, your teaching style is way cool. It"s impossible to hear a word your saying, but that"s ok. French is cool.» (Adequate)
- too much time spent on Predicate and Propositional logics. The exercises seemed a bit always the same.» (Adequate)
- The exercise sessions were not so well organized.» (Good)
- except for the exam, which was horribly hard.» (Good)
- The course covers a wide range of topics and manages to go in-depth on them without becoming too much. Unfortunately, the exercise sessions were somewhat unorganized and the TA seemed thoroughly unmotivated.» (Good)
- I loved the course, and I would liked to spend more time on it, but I couldn"t because of lack of accommodation in first weeks.» (Excellent)

12. What should definitely be preserved to next year?

- The course book, it was really good and easy to learn from»
- The very good framework given for exercises and assignments. I was really surprised of having that nice interfaces!»
- exercise sessions»
- The course book»
- Thierry»
- Not the first, but the rest of Thierry"s lectures.»
- The course book is excellent.»
- Books, Jan Smith. »
- Thierry Coquand.»
- The choice of course literature, the overall planning of the course.»
- Th exercise sessions. The teachers. The course book»
- The course is indeed coherent»

13. What should definitely be changed to next year?

- should specify more which exercises that are important to do, instead of just writing "do all"»
- The information on Erlang should be more detailed. It was a very hard beginning with Erlang because of missing basic knowledge of the compiler.»
- include assignments and tests. »
- Either add an exercise session for questions or explicitly state the office hours of the teachers. The first two lectures (about the history of logic) were not very relevant to the course goals and should be skipped. The exercise sessions with a teacher solving exercises from the book had too slow a pace and the exercises should be listed before hand.»
- Faster introduction? Most master students know what implication, disjunction etc. is, don"t they?»
- There should be a better way to organize the exercises. Maybe also some assignments.»
- It seemed weird that we"re supposed to remember the SAT algorithm for CTL well enough to write it down on the exam. One needs to spend a lot of time on it (because it"s so intricate) and it"s only a few points on the exam anyway. Or maybe the book just didn"t demonstrate its simplicity?»
- The course home page. Supply more old exams, so that one knows what to expect and can practice. The book is not enough.»
- It would be helpful if exercises to be covered were published a few days before the exercise sessions. That way, students would be able to solve them on their own and use the exercise sessions to get feedback and an answer to compare with.»
- Maybe have times when the teachers are available to ask questions about specific exercises, but in person.»

14. Additional comments

- Jan has a funny accent, that is great.»
- The material in this course could have filled an entire day of reading in the bathtub while sippin" on a nice glass of wine.»
- The teacher could do a SMALL effort about his accent... French students can surely understand but for the rest of us it is pretty hard to get what he says.»
- I loved this course»
- If the intuitionists reject LEM they should reject not-elim too, because not-elim assumes there is nothing between falsehood and truth, which is what LEM is based on. Perhaps or-elim should be rejected as well, because one should disprove this "middle" before assuming it"s not there, right?»
- ments, the TA answered "Well, that doesn"t make my job any less boring, but OK". I find this attitude unprofessional. It was his job to hold the sessions and his amusement with the task should not be a top priority.»
- Slides can be used sometimes, instead of handwriting»
- HB, who held the exercise sessions, seemed umotivated and lazy. His pace during these sessions was unnecessarily slow and he put a large portion of the burden of managing the session on the students. The general attitude was highlighted very well during one session. After pointing out how boring it was to go thorugh exercises on the blackboard, Mr. Burden asked students if they could think of a better way of structuring the sessions. After some students came with constructive comments, the TA answered "Well, that doesn"t make my job any less boring, but OK". I find this attitude unprofessional. It was his job to hold the sessions and his amusement with the task should not be a top priority.» (den här kommentaren har blivit redigerad i efterhand)

Additional comments

Genomsnitt totalt för alla frågor: 2.74
Beräknat jämförelseindex: 0.43

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