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0910-3 Databases, TDA357/DIT620
Status: Avslutad Öppen för svar: 2010-03-11 - 2010-03-21 Antal svar: 52 Procent av deltagarna som svarat: 40% Kontaktperson: Börje Johansson» Utbildningsprogram som genomför enkäten: Chalmers Utbildningsprogram studenten tillhör: Informationsteknik 300 hp
Your own effort1. Which programme are you on?52 svarande
University of Gothenburg» | | 7 | | 13% |
Chalmers, Datateknik» | | 8 | | 15% |
Chalmers, Informationsteknik» | | 32 | | 61% |
Other programme at Chalmers» | | 5 | | 9% |
Genomsnitt: 2.67 - Did the weekly programming assignments, not the exam.» (Chalmers, Informationsteknik)
- MPSYS, Z» (Other programme at Chalmers)
- Z, system control and mechatronics» (Other programme at Chalmers)
- Intelligent systems design» (Other programme at Chalmers)
2. How many hours per week did you spend on this course?We mean total time, that is, it comprises the time you spent in class and the time you spent on your own work. Try to estimate the average time over the entire study period.52 svarande
At most 15 hours/week» | | 9 | | 17% |
Around 20 hours/week» | | 21 | | 40% |
Around 25 hours/week» | | 15 | | 28% |
Around 30 hours/week» | | 6 | | 11% |
At least 35 hours/week» | | 1 | | 1% |
Genomsnitt: 2.4 - I"d say at most 20, usually around 15h.» (At most 15 hours/week)
- Varierade, tog mer tid mot slutet.» (Around 20 hours/week)
- I was working with databases for about 6 years so it didn"t need so much effort from me, but the course was quite demanding.» (Around 20 hours/week)
- The time varied with the weeks but approx 25 hours/week.» (Around 25 hours/week)
3. How large part of the teaching offered did you attend? 52 svarande
0%» | | 1 | | 1% |
25%» | | 1 | | 1% |
50%» | | 7 | | 13% |
75%» | | 27 | | 51% |
100%» | | 16 | | 30% |
Genomsnitt: 4.07 - Måndag 15-17 vad tänkte ni?» (50%)
- Could not attend the second lecture each week because of another obligatory lecture.» (50%)
- I did attend most of the lectures but none of the supervised practice-sessions» (50%)
- not all the tutorials» (75%)
- all lectures, but not all excercises.» (75%)
- Between 75-100%, I didn"t attend any tutorial lectures except the last one. » (75%)
- Did not attend to as manny exercises as I would wanted to (had lecture in another course at that time)» (75%)
- alla föreläsningarna, två övningspass (övningspassen var bra)» (75%)
- Did not attend the tutorials on wednesday» (75%)
- Very good lecturer. » (100%)
- Missed 1 class» (100%)
Goals and goal fulfilmentThe course syllabus states the course goals in terms of learning outcomes, i.e., knowledge, skills and attitudes to be acquired by the student during the course.4. How understandable are the course goals?51 svarande
I have not seen/read the goals» | | 5 | | 9% |
The goals are difficult to understand» | | 0 | | 0% |
The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer» | | 2 | | 3% |
The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn» | | 44 | | 86% |
Genomsnitt: 3.66 - the teache new what is he doing» (The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn)
- Very nice to see the goals and exam questions at the end of the lectures.» (The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn)
- Crystalclear» (The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn)
- Goals clearly stated by lecturer several times during the course, to check that we had learned what we should.» (The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn)
- Absolutle one of the clearest goals I have seen in a course» (The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn)
- Very clear and constantly repeated in class what is to be achived.» (The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn)
5. Are the goals reasonable considering your background and the number of credits?Answer this this question and the succeeding one, only if you do know the course goals.47 svarande
No, the goals are set too low» | | 0 | | 0% |
Yes, the goals seem reasonable» | | 47 | | 100% |
No, the goals are set too high» | | 0 | | 0% |
Genomsnitt: 2 - A lot of work, but all useful.» (Yes, the goals seem reasonable)
- Very good!» (Yes, the goals seem reasonable)
6. Did the examination assess whether you have reached the goals?48 svarande
No, not at all» | | 0 | | 0% |
To some extent» | | 6 | | 12% |
Yes, definitely» | | 37 | | 77% |
I don"t know/have not been examined yet» | | 5 | | 10% |
Genomsnitt: 2.97 - The A B C format för the test is awful. It stresses people out to the maximum. If you do the A question you might think well maybe I should have done the B question instead. If you aim for the higher grades you might, try with the B or C, then loose 20 min just thinking about how to solve until you realize you don"t have the knowledge. Now you"r even more stressed that you lost 20 minutes and got nothing done. So I suggest you scrap that kind of test. The timepressure is huge.» (To some extent)
- Why were some topics covered in the lectures, but were not tested on the exam or in the lab assignment?» (Yes, definitely)
- All seven blocks were tested and you could choose difficulty for yourself.» (Yes, definitely)
- Odd exam form but very good at testing your knowledge in the different parts of the course.» (Yes, definitely)
- Very good!» (Yes, definitely)
Teaching and course administration7. To what extent has the teaching been of help for your learning?51 svarande
Small extent» | | 3 | | 5% |
Some extent» | | 3 | | 5% |
Large extent» | | 28 | | 54% |
Great extent» | | 17 | | 33% |
Genomsnitt: 3.15 - Since I didn"t attend to more than one lecture. » (Small extent)
- the course theacher was goooooood» (Large extent)
- The teacher was very good. Sometimes it was a bit much material for one lecutre but I guess it"s not much you can do about that. » (Large extent)
- Great teaching, kept me interested even though I have a knowledge of databases.» (Large extent)
- Most of the learning was done through lectures and the lab.» (Large extent)
- Did not need the book at all, only used lecture notes and googled some information.» (Great extent)
- apart from previous knowledge, all learning has come in form of lectures and assignments» (Great extent)
- Väldigt bra föreläsningar, kudos!» (Great extent)
8. To what extent has the course literature and other material been of help for your learning?52 svarande
Small extent» | | 20 | | 38% |
Some extent» | | 17 | | 32% |
Large extent» | | 11 | | 21% |
Great extent» | | 4 | | 7% |
Genomsnitt: 1.98 - Slides were really good, but didn"t use the recommended, or any, course literature.» (Small extent)
- köpte inte kursboken. slides mkt bra» (Small extent)
- Did not buy the book. I did consult it on one occasion, but it did not help very much.» (Small extent)
- say none.» (Small extent)
- Kände inget behov av att köpa boken» (Small extent)
- I did not open the book, literally» (Small extent)
- Did not purchase or use the course book, did well enough without it.» (Some extent)
- Did not buy course book but lecture notes were good.» (Some extent)
- The book was good but the lecture notes had most of the information needed. I used the book mostly for reference and to find certain specific information during the labs. » (Some extent)
- Have hardly read anything in the book. It was easier to read the pdf"s on the homepage and google for information.» (Some extent)
- Bra med föreläsningsslides, boken nyttjades väldigt lite.» (Some extent)
- Book was ok, nothing special.» (Some extent)
- Really good slides!» (Large extent)
- The slides from the lectures.» (Large extent)
- The book was not really necessary, even though it is very good. Someone could learn everything necessary from the course slides.» (Large extent)
9. How well did the course administration, web page, handouts etc work?52 svarande
Very badly» | | 0 | | 0% |
Rather badly» | | 1 | | 1% |
Rather well» | | 29 | | 55% |
Very well» | | 22 | | 42% |
Genomsnitt: 3.4 - apart from tycho, everything worked fine. Tycho dislikes triggers and needs to be reset before usage for every login. Also gives errors when there are none at occasions.» (Rather well)
- The courses" web page worked like a charm, so did the handouts and the information. However the feedback on the assignment was rather slow and often the assistant didn"t clarify what was wrong with a task that where rejected.» (Rather well)
- slides...» (Very well)
- Only remark is that we got our remarks on the handins written in swedish so I had to translate them for my partner.» (Very well)
- The web page was exactly as a course web page should be.» (Very well)
Study climate10. How were the opportunities for asking questions and getting help?51 svarande
Very poor» | | 0 | | 0% |
Rather poor» | | 2 | | 3% |
Rather good» | | 23 | | 45% |
Very good» | | 20 | | 39% |
I did not seek help» | | 6 | | 11% |
Genomsnitt: 3.58 - Sven Arne kunde inte hjälpa oss någon gång, gav dålig kritik, gav oss godkänt på deluppg 2 trots fel vilket gjorde allt jobbigt... skaffa kompetenta handledare. Läraren och tutorialsnubben var bra dock!» (Rather poor)
- För få labbhandledare, kändes inte som om man fick ordentliga svar» (Rather poor)
- Emil was very qualified, otherwise they seemed to lack knowledge. Especially the older man.» (Rather good)
- During the labs it was sometimes hard to get help.» (Rather good)
- There were often too few assistents on the laborations.» (Rather good)
- När man väl fick chansen att fråga så fick man bra hjälp, dessvärre är det väl svårt för de assistenter som är där under handledningspassen att hinna med då det är många där som vill ha hjälp.» (Rather good)
- Emil var väldigt bra, Phu och Sven-arne har inte samma förmåga att ge förståellse för uppgiftern» (Very good)
- There was a high level of interaction during the lectures.» (Very good)
- It was nice to have a google group to ask questions, even though most of my questions arose the evening before the exam. :)» (I did not seek help)
11. How well has cooperation between you and your fellow students worked?52 svarande
Very poorly» | | 0 | | 0% |
Rather poorly» | | 2 | | 3% |
Rather well» | | 15 | | 28% |
Very well» | | 31 | | 59% |
I did not seek cooperation» | | 4 | | 7% |
Genomsnitt: 3.71 - My lab partner was rather passive.» (Rather poorly)
- Chalmerister är trevliga?» (Very well)
12. How was the course workload?52 svarande
Too low» | | 0 | | 0% |
Low» | | 1 | | 1% |
Adequate» | | 30 | | 57% |
High» | | 20 | | 38% |
Too high» | | 1 | | 1% |
Genomsnitt: 3.4 - (high)» (Adequate)
- Some parts of the lab were intensive.» (Adequate)
- Labbarna var i sig av okej svårighetsgrad, men efter tre returer redan på första labben fick vi ganska mycket jobb de sista veckorna då vi inte kunde påbörja nästkommande labbar.» (Adequate)
- Between adequate and high but more towards adequate» (Adequate)
- Sql delen tog tid, triggers och views, skulle vara bra med tips som inga semicolon på sql statements i JDBC, Vanliga fel som handledanra ser typ faq?» (High)
- High but manageable, what you expect from a course here at Chalmers.» (High)
- High but it should be since it"s a good course.» (High)
13. How was the total workload this study period?52 svarande
Too low» | | 0 | | 0% |
Low» | | 1 | | 1% |
Adequate» | | 24 | | 46% |
High» | | 23 | | 44% |
Too high» | | 4 | | 7% |
Genomsnitt: 3.57 - double programming, where the other course was to a large extent a repetition of previous courses» (Low)
- Not on a standard course schedule.» (Adequate)
- läste 150%» (High)
- Read 3 courses» (High)
- Between adequate and high but more towards high» (High)
Summarizing questions14. What is your general impression of the course?52 svarande
Poor» | | 0 | | 0% |
Fair» | | 0 | | 0% |
Adequate» | | 1 | | 1% |
Good» | | 24 | | 46% |
Excellent» | | 27 | | 51% |
Genomsnitt: 4.5 - i realy liked the course, the environment was great specially the teacher» (Good)
- May have been a bit broad, for instance the XML part felt redundant.» (Good)
- Very useful course. Could have included a bit of analysis of the problem domain, otherwise excellent. (Quizzes are also a bit overrepresented in the slides in my opinion.)» (Excellent)
- Very good course, should be mandatory for IT students.» (Excellent)
- Känns som jag verkligen har fått koll på databaser.» (Excellent)
- One of the best courses I"ve read so far.» (Excellent)
- Exactly what I had hoped for» (Excellent)
- I really like this course!» (Excellent)
- Best course I have attended (after 7 years of studies). If all courses were like this, I would be a wizard.» (Excellent)
15. What should definitely be preserved to next year?- The assignements was nice»
- The teacher!»
- labbarna är en mycket bra förberedelse inför tentan»
- Everything.»
- Lecturer/Lectures,»
- Niklas Broberg!»
- Labb tillfällen.»
- Everything»
- Niklas Broberg!»
- The lab.»
- Just about everything»
- Assignment»
- Labbs and teatcher »
- +Teacher
+Practice and teacher
+Jumping up and down during lectures (should be mandatory in all classes at 30-35min)»
- Most of it»
- The exercise lessons were a good opportunity to repeat the subject from the lectures and thus remember them more easily. This should be kept.»
- The clear stating of what you should learn, the course book, Niklas Broberg, »
- The slides»
- the teacher! and the assignments»
- Everything.»
- The Teacher»
- Labbarn och föreläsaren. Nicklas är riktigt duktig och föreläsningarna är mycket bra. Hela upläget med målen och labbarna gör att man känner att man verkligen har lärt sig något i kursen.»
- Lab assignment was very helpful in learning, it should be preserved definitely»
- The programming assignment was great. The whole structure of the course should be preserved.»
- The labs.»
16. What should definitely be changed to next year?- Nothing really»
- More structured lab-PM though it"s a big assignment and, thereby, sometimes hard to keep track of what should get done. And it would be really good if you could connect to the database from home, and not only on the NOMAD-network. I also believe that you should recommend to use some other developer tool which allows the student to "see" whats happening. It"s rather hard to work with a blindfold as a beginner. »
- Sven-Arne»
- Nor the course litterature or lectures give much introduction to PL/SQL and since we are using Oracle for the programming assignments, I would like to see more on that subject.»
- I remember our first lecture when Niklas said that there had been complaints from the previous year about the level of knowledge of the course assistants, followed by a statement that the course would have MORE assistants this year. One interesting thing was asking three different people what FDs are and getting three different answers..»
- More focus on what things are used for, for example I couldn"t learn independences because of I couldn"t see the meaning of it. Either more focus on the "unimportant" things or don"t include them at all.
I would also like to see more examples in the lecture slides, things like "X -> Y" makes no sense while putting it into context makes it so much easier.»
- tycho»
- Fler handledare mot slutet, 2 sista labbarna.»
- 3 teachers every lab would be nice.»
- Allow the students to start Task 2 & 3 of the assignment before Task 1 is accepted. In case the code for task 2 & 3 is incorrect it can be corrected after the feedback from Task 1 is delivered, however it is easier to change the code from task 2 & 3 rather then not being allowed to start at all. There is allot of time spent waiting for the feedback for task 1, this could be used to start making the foundation for the later tasks.
Also there are to few assistants present during the scheduled laborations. One thought is that the assistants check what areas that the students need help with and then round up several groups and explain it to all of them at the same time, this way only one assistant could help several groups at the same time to save time.»
- I think that the algebra thing was quite unnecessary. Sure It was intressting to no the connection to sql and so on. But I don"t see the point in having it in the exam.»
- Höja nivån på viss handledare»
- less or more exml »
- -all practice sessions on same day. if you wasn"t able to attend on a Wednesday there was no other slots to attend at.»
- Cant think of anything»
- Nothing that I can think of at the moment.»
- More assistants at the laboration lectures»
- Skippa BCNF, relational algebra och andra mer formella saker»
- The A B C type tests.»
- I can"t come up with anything.»
- Phu Phung. Denna handledare borde inte få rätta. Vi hade han på alla labbar och vi fick ingen som helst hjälp och jag känner att det hämnade vårt inlärande. För det första går det knappt att begripa vad han skriver. Engelskan är i bästa fall nästan förstålig. Kommentarerna i sig är obegriplig och har man samma fel två gånger i rad så skickar han tillbaka EXAKT samma feedback igen (förutom att han lägger till ungefär 5 utropstecken för varje retur). Han godkänner labbar och efteråt så kommer han på att det är fel i redan godkända labbar. Han hittar även nya fel som han inte sett innan vid returer. Ibland e det inte ens någon kommentar utan bara en felutskrift från Oracle. Om denna kille ska va handledare igen så snälla ge studenterna en chans att välja vem som ska rätta, man får ingen hjälp från han. Kan tilllägas att vi undvek hans hjälp på labbtillfällena då de andra var mycket bättre.»
- There was quite a big delay between submitting and checking of the tasks (4-5 days sometimes), while deadline of the next task is 7 days after previous submition. So sometimes we needed to do the next assignment, while being not sure at correctness of the previous one. It is better to get faster responce from the assistants.»
- I can"t find something.»
- No comments»
17. Additional comments- Not a word about SQL injection and other security issues?»
- this guy is a real theacher, he has got the talent, keep him and dont let him go(the young guy)»
- There seems to be some hype growing about NOSQL databases, the course only addressed relational databases it would have been interesting to see Niklas take on non-relational. »
- En av dom bästa lärarna jag har haft, bra jobbat Niklas!»
- Maybe have a lecture about security in databases instead of the algebra focus? Like how to avoid sql injections and so on.»
- Bra kurs.»
- gr8 course»
- I would have benefited from more basic exercises in the beginning. (the ones in the book dont have answers)»
- Oracle is great! Why do you criticise it? (okay, that was a joke, but Oracle is great indeed)»
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