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Design of Industrial Energy Equipment, KVM071

Status: Avslutad
Öppen för svar: 2010-03-09 - 2010-03-31
Antal svar: 29
Procent av deltagarna som svarat: 50%
Kontaktperson: Mathias Gourdon»
Utbildningsprogram som genomför enkäten: Chalmers


Your own effort and qualifications

1. How many hours peer week did you spend on this course?

We mean total time, that is it comprises the time you spent in class and the time you spent on your own work. Try to estimate the average time over the enture study period.

29 svarande

At most 15 hours»0 0%
About 20 hours»8 27%
About 25 hours»11 37%
At least 30 hours»10 34%

Genomsnitt: 3.06

- The amount of work was particularly high the second and the last week of the quarter (second week: projects 1-2-3 and last week: projects 4-5-6 with the HPSE project to submit as well). The timing was pretty bad for the MPSES-students, many projects had to be finished at the same time and too few days between the end of the projects and the examinations...» (About 25 hours)
- the projects took some time...» (About 25 hours)
- The work load was pretty steep.» (About 25 hours)
- Projects took a lot of time outside the timetable» (At least 30 hours)

2. How large part of the teaching offered did you attend?

29 svarande

0%»0 0%
25%»1 3%
50%»1 3%
75%»6 20%
100%»21 72%

Genomsnitt: 4.62

3. Do you consider that you hade sufficient knowledge to read this course?

29 svarande

Yes, absolutely»21 72%
In part, but I struggled in places»8 27%
No»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.27

- The Industrial Energy Systems course was, in my opinion, pretty necessary to read this course but there was some overlapping (heat pumps for example).» (Yes, absolutely)
- I am not following the master, I am an exchange student so I had a lack of knowledge because I am not so specialliced in energy systems.» (In part, but I struggled in places)


Goals and goal fulfilment

4. How understandable are the course goals?

29 svarande

I have not seen/read the course goals»5 17%
The goals are difficult to understand»0 0%
The goals give some guidance, but could be more clear»11 37%
The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to»13 44%

Genomsnitt: 3.1

5. Are the goals reasonable considering your background and the number of credits?

26 svarande

No, the goals are set too low»0 0%
Yes, the goals seem reasnoable»26 100%
No, the goals are set too high»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 2

- It might be a good idea to precise that this course is quite work-intensive and needs time-investment, especially when one reads the HPSE-course as well. » (Yes, the goals seem reasnoable)

6. Did the examination assess whether you have reached the goals?

29 svarande

No, not at all»0 0%
To some extent»14 48%
Yes, definitely»14 48%
I don"t know, I have not been examined yet»1 3%

Genomsnitt: 2.55

- I think that this course focusses a lot in the projects and they have no global weight in the final mark. I spent alomost the whole course struggling against the projects and reached the exam without time to learn by heart the goals for the examination» (To some extent)
- Well, the thing is that the examination assesses that about 5/6 chapters of 10 were understood since there are just 5 problems (with 2 theory related questions). Moreover, no real exercise sessions were done (I mean by that hand-calculations like we do in the examination) and it was sometimes quite hard to repeat (iterations for example) what we only did with Matlab.» (To some extent)
- Tricky exam. » (To some extent)
- The examination did not take into account a lot of topic. I liked the projects, we learned a lot from that actually. It might be good to give some credits for the projects.» (To some extent)
- I would say that almost all questions had an unexpected twist, but overall I believe the exam was fare.» (Yes, definitely)


Teaching methods

7. To what extent has the teaching been of help for your learning?

29 svarande

small extent»2 6%
some extent»4 13%
large extent»17 58%
great extent»6 20%

Genomsnitt: 2.93

- The introductory sessions of projects were necessary, without them it would have been impossible to start the projects.» (great extent)
- the tutors on the projects have been helpful» (great extent)
- The projects involve in the course are really helpful to understand the material.» (great extent)

8. To what extent has the course literature been of help for your learning?

29 svarande

small extent»1 3%
some extent»10 34%
large extent»13 44%
great extent»5 17%

Genomsnitt: 2.75

- The compendium is not written very well and cannot be understand well, it"s better to be revised. But the lectures and slides were very understandable. also the heat exchangers literature is very good.» (some extent)
- The course literature is not that adequate atleast for a person not from the Chemical engineering background.» (some extent)
- The second and third last chapter could be improved!» (large extent)
- The compendium "Design of industrial energy systems" holds a very low quality. Even though it"s cheap, unreadable plots (turbo comp chapter), spelling and printing errors and hard-to-understand texts doesn"t leave a very good impression. » (large extent)
- The compendium contents all the formulas which are needed, however it could be much better to give the meanings of the terms of the chapters 2-3 (furnace/boiling), it would be also good to correct the formula mistakes in the turbo-compressor chapter.» (great extent)

9. What was your overall impression of the lectures?

29 svarande

Excellent»2 6%
Good»22 75%
Moderate»5 17%
Poor»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 2.1

- The first lecture was not that interesting.» (Good)
- There were some lectures (for instance, lecture 10) where the teacher had old slides and they had some wrong data. » (Moderate)

10. What was your overall impression of the projects?

29 svarande

Excellent»10 34%
Good»14 48%
Moderate»4 13%
Poor»1 3%

Genomsnitt: 1.86

- The projects were great but some kind of rearrangement would be good. Now there were many project in the end at the same time as some of the first ones were revised. It some of them had been corrected faster id had been better, especially the first one.» (Excellent)
- The themes of the projects are really good and closed-related to the compendium content. However they take a lot of time (first submission of report+sometimes corrections) and using Matlab everytime might not be really adapted since we do not have the right to use it during the examination...» (Excellent)
- The projects are very good and the helping of the assistants were really appreciable. » (Excellent)
- Some of them were to big. Remove the hand calculation part from the first project, they were unneccessary. » (Good)
- The projects are very good for your learning, if you have 50h/week to spend on them. The project workload was HIGH!» (Good)
- The rhythm of the projects is quite intense, especially at the end of the quarter, during the revision time...» (Good)
- The instruction were sometimes a bit sloppy, but overall it was a job well done.» (Good)
- The projects were interesting and very useful for the course understanding. But the organisation was not optimal : some important informations were sometimes given late (after we already had spent time on trying to solve something that we weren"t supposed to be able to solve with the present datas for example... , problem with the non availagle Hysys program during the end of the project 4 (would have been better if we could have been in the K building during this whole project!)» (Moderate)

11. Do you consider that any of the project exercises were irrelevant for the course or need improvments? Please specifiy

Please state clearly which project your comment refers to. Start your comment as follows: "PXXX was not relevant because ..."

- PX06 is not relevant because we dont design the CHP. We are just looking on which turbine is good.So there is an improvement that you can do it for the next year.»
- Project 5 (choosing a compressor from graphs) could have been better. Now we just followed steps 1-12 without getting any better understanding of compressors.»
- the project 1 need somme more details to help»
- P1 would be nice to have gone through more precisely»
- The documentation about the heat exchangers is a bloody mess.»

12. What did you think of the industrial laboratory at Rya?

29 svarande

Very interesting»8 27%
Good but could be improved»14 48%
Less good, questionable»7 24%
Not interesting»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.96

- Really helped me to understand how heat pump works.» (Very interesting)
- It wasn"t very rewarding.» (Good but could be improved)
- Some industrial laboratories which look the same were done in the IES-course so it was kind of repeating the same staff. The supervisor (Roman) was however really nice and willing to answer to our questions.» (Good but could be improved)
- I didn"t feel that it contributed to my learning. Always fun to see a production plants however.» (Good but could be improved)
- It would be nicer if the guide were more structured. I would like a thorou description of the heat pump and all of its components.» (Good but could be improved)
- Didn"t give anything. The calculations were good but could be done at chalmers. » (Less good, questionable)

13. What did you think of the Study visit to Metso Power?

29 svarande

Very interesting»6 20%
Good but could be improved»13 44%
Less good, questionable»5 17%
Not interesting»5 17%

Genomsnitt: 2.31

- Gave a good connection to reality, what the equipment looks like.» (Very interesting)
- Nice with a study visit. It didn"t give much though.» (Good but could be improved)
- Keep it! Always good to see how it works, unfortunately they did not have so much going on this year neither.» (Good but could be improved)
- The visit to the factory was really good but i think the lecture was tiring or even unnecessary. » (Good but could be improved)
- I do no think that anything new were said there. The thing that were interesting was to see the production site, but not for 1.5h, 30min had been enough. » (Less good, questionable)
- I don"t mind visting companies. But the part of walking around the workshop was a bit waste of time.» (Less good, questionable)
- The guide did only talk about welding techniques.. and the lecture about pulp and paper have I seen four times before. » (Less good, questionable)
- We actually didnt see any reactor or waste heat recovery boiler at site. There were only pipe welding and frabrication stuffs. That I feel was not relevant enough for the course. » (Less good, questionable)
- It was really boring, just saw tubes and heard comments on that...» (Not interesting)

14. How well did the course administration, homepage, handouts etc work?

29 svarande

Excellent»12 41%
Good»14 48%
Moderate»3 10%
Poor»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.68

- The administration and homepage worked perfectly. Just some timing problems as said before...» (Good)
- Some lectures were updated less than 24 hours before the lecture» (Moderate)


Teaching staff and guest lecturers

15. Please rate Mathias Gourdon"s lectures

28 svarande

Excellent»8 28%
Good»19 67%
Moderate»1 3%
Poor»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.75

- He"s a keeper. » (Excellent)
- Mathias describes very good and understandable. I appreciate his help on the projects and the course materials.» (Good)
- Could go to a more details and explain the phenomenon.» (Good)

16. Please rate Lennart Elmeroth"s lectures

29 svarande

Excellent»3 10%
Good»15 51%
Moderate»11 37%
Poor»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 2.27

- specially the last lecture on the turbo compressors was really good.» (Good)
- He knows his stuff but Gourdon will be an excellent heir. » (Moderate)

17. Please rate Elin Svensson as exercise tutor

29 svarande

Excellent»9 31%
Good»17 58%
Moderate»3 10%
Poor»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.79

- Elin was a really nice exercise tutor, she manages to help people understanding by giving relevant guidelines and is always willing to help!» (Excellent)
- Helpful» (Good)
- She explains well but sometimes I couldn"t follow.» (Good)

18. Please rate Valeria Mora as exercise tutor

29 svarande

Excellent»9 31%
Good»16 55%
Moderate»4 13%
Poor»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.82

- Valeria was also a really nice exercise tutor, always willing to help and very efficient and clear in her explanations!» (Excellent)
- Appreciate her help on the projects, she explains very well.» (Excellent)
- Helpful» (Good)
- she sometimes told you things that was not correct» (Good)
- Kind and helpfull but I"m not sure her knowledge in Matlab is enought to be a tutor. » (Moderate)

19. Please rate Mathias Gourdon as exercise tutor

29 svarande

Excellent»17 58%
Good»10 34%
Moderate»2 6%
Poor»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.48

- I just love that he started at nine that day:)» (Excellent)
- Mathias was as well a very good exercise tutor and was willing to take from his time to help people finding possible mistakes in Matlab-codes and in our reasonings!» (Excellent)
- Very helpful with answering questions and correcting the projects.» (Excellent)
- Probably one of the best project instructors I"ve had! Very devoted.» (Excellent)
- Specially appreciate his availability and quick responses on the questions.» (Excellent)
- But project 1 was exteremelly hard» (Good)

20. Please rate Roman Hackl as Industrial Laboratory tutor

29 svarande

Excellent»18 62%
Good»10 34%
Moderate»1 3%
Poor»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.41

- Excellent Industrial Laboratory tutor, the best I had at Chalmers. Very nice and talkative guy willing to help people and to help them understanding.» (Excellent)


Study climate

21. What did you think about the overall work load in the course?

29 svarande

Too low»0 0%
Low»0 0%
Adequate»6 20%
High»16 55%
Too high»7 24%

Genomsnitt: 4.03

- The projects took a lot of time. Otherwise it was ok» (High)
- It was pretty work-intensive since the beginning... it was not realistic to say at the beginning of the course that the projects sessions should be enough to finish projects and reports, it actually only happened with the projects 3 and 5.» (High)
- projects took a lot of time... good that there was not so many lectures though.» (High)

22. How was the work load this study period?

29 svarande

Too low»0 0%
Low»0 0%
Adequate»4 13%
High»16 55%
Too High»9 31%

Genomsnitt: 4.17

- Really high sometimes, especially at the end of the quarter when a lot of assignments have to be done in parallel of other courses.» (High)
- I did read three courses though, so I probably have myself to blame.» (Too High)
- Not too high but very high.» (Too High)

23. How were the opportunities for asking questions and getting help?

29 svarande

Very poor»0 0%
Rather poor»0 0%
Rather good»8 27%
Very Good»21 72%
I did not seek help»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 3.72

- Elin, Valeria and Mathis were always willing to help! It was great since projects took extra-time and it was hard to finish by ourselves without asking teachers!» (Very Good)
- Something that made it possible to pass the course!» (Very Good)

24. How well has the cooperation between you and your fellow students worked?

29 svarande

Very poor»2 6%
Rather poor»2 6%
Rather good»5 17%
Very good»20 68%
I did not seek help»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 3.48

- I dont really see any interaction at all in the classes. But that is a problem in all the courses.» (Very poor)
- The comunication between me and my project partner wasn"t the best. It is hard completing 6 projects with that atmosphere, anyway, I have learnt more about threating with people :)» (Rather poor)

25. Students with various backgrounds are taking this course. How should the division into project groups be made in the best way?

* 2 groups are formed with various background. Choose project partner from the group you do not belong to

29 svarande

* See above»1 3%
As today, you choose freely»24 82%
You are placed into groups»4 13%

Genomsnitt: 2.1

- Current division is good!» (As today, you choose freely)
- Since it was a high work load it is important to work with someone you know!» (As today, you choose freely)
- I"m not taking this course to teach other people Matlab. » (As today, you choose freely)
- people should be randomly grouped by the course instructor himself, it is important because otherwise clusters of students are formed and students belonging to one cluster will not be able to communicate with other students.» (You are placed into groups)


Summarizing questions

26. What is your overall impression of the course?

29 svarande

Poor»0 0%
Fair»4 13%
Good»19 65%
Excellent»6 20%

Genomsnitt: 3.06

- Good course, but can be really improved » (Good)

27. What improvements can be made to next year?

- just on P6 exercise you can focus the attentions of student on the design part.»
- Perhaps you could post some kind of solutions to the old exams. I know there are not always one correct answer but it still sucks to do a task without having any clue if you are doing it right.»
- For future students, i strongly recomend that some calculation examples are handed out, 20-40 wirh a DEASENT SOLUTION. so thet the students can trye to solve the problems, and then check if they made it right.»
- If projects are soooo time consuming, I would weight them in that way. I spent around 80% of the whole time dedicated to this course with projects. I think projects are a good help for understanding the course but I lost too many time struggling in the way that matlab prgram worked and lost the core of the project: understanding how a industrial equipment works.»
- More problems to solve before the exam or that the old exams had solutions. »
- Better copied graphs in the handouts. Change compressor-project to make it more "useful"»
- more time for projects for the examination, maybe more old exams to help»
- > Timing: optimization of work load > Exercise sessions to prepare the examinations (not just one) > More time between the projects and the examinations... »
- Project exercises need more organization and labs should be properly arranged. It will be better if we work in KD1 or KD2, work in mechanical building was not so good. »
- The chapter about the turbo compressor needs to be renovated. Too many incorrect formulas which causes confusion on such easy calculations.»
- The compendium i not very good, it works as a handbook but is not very "readable".»
- The graphs in the course book! »
- More calculation examples, with solutions, to do at your own. Also solutions to the old exams! For me it was hard to understand exam question 1 because of lack of exercises to do. »
- The projects could be a little bit smaller. It felt unecessary with 10 turbines in P6 for example.»
- More improved explanations and introduction on the first project (boiler design) will be good. The compendium text is poor and not really helpful.»
- The course material should be improved especially the boiler part. A more practical approach can be adopted towards the project»

28. What should definitely be preserved to next year?

- study visits, specially Metso.»
- projects are a good way»
- Diversity of content & Exercise tutors!!!»
- Course content»
- The staff, did a great job.»
- The projects. Gourdon, Roman and Elin. »
- The projects as a whole.»
- The projects are really good. They should certainly be part of the course. Especially working with different programs (MATLAB, ansys, hysys) is very nice, it would be even better if they were involved more in the projects.»
- The exercises are very good and helps a lot.»

29. Additional comments

- Its a very good course.You know i love to work with design part.And this course really clears some questions in my mind.And i cant forget this course in the future.»
- Din svarskod är: 1915566155 »
- If possible try to formulate something that promotes interactions among the students.»


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