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Applied mechatronics, SST155, VT10

Status: Avslutad
Öppen för svar: 2010-03-02 - 2010-03-14
Antal svar: 21
Procent av deltagarna som svarat: 29%
Kontaktperson: Madeleine Persson»

Your own effort

1. How many hours per week did you spend on this course?

We mean total time, that is, it comprises the time you spent in class and the time you spent on your own work. Try to estimate the average time over the entire study period.

21 svarande

At most 15 hours/week» 7 33%

Around 20 hours/week» 8 38%

Around 25 hours/week» 4 19%

Around 30 hours/week» 2 9%

At least 35 hours/week» 0 0%

Genomsnitt: 2.04

- Just repetition from the basic courses, nothing new.» (At most 15 hours/week)
- Only the handins» (At most 15 hours/week)
- Assignment 1 took most time» (Around 20 hours/week)
- On useless work since we didn´,t get our questions answered.» (Around 25 hours/week)

2. How large part of the teaching offered did you attend?

21 svarande

0%» 2 9%

25%» 8 38%

50%» 4 19%

75%» 5 23%

100%» 2 9%

Genomsnitt: 2.85

- The lectures were not good enough to attend.» (0%)
- Bad lectures, use your own slides, not prof. Sjöberg!» (25%)
- Too much administrative information was brought up on the lectures, thought I might be more efficient reading on my own.» (25%)
- The lectures felt badly structured, and I had trouble listening to Esteban speaking. He gave a shy impression and didn"t seem very enthusiastic at all, and I just found my mind drifting off to other places all the time instead, so I quit going to the lectures after a while.» (25%)
- Not good lectures, the best and most teaching lecture was the guest lecture from Volvo, Mikaela Öhman.» (75%)
- Missed the last week» (75%)

Goals and goal fulfilment

The course syllabus states the course goals in terms of learning outcomes, i.e., knowledge, skills and attitudes to be acquired by the student during the course.

3. How understandable are the course goals?

21 svarande

I have not seen/read the goals» 5 23%

The goals are difficult to understand» 3 14%

The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer» 8 38%

The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn» 5 23%

Genomsnitt: 2.61

- It took an hour for the teacher to explain them.» (The goals are difficult to understand)

4. Are the goals reasonable considering your background and the number of credits?

Answer this this question and the succeeding one, only if you do know the course goals.

17 svarande

No, the goals are set too low» 6 35%

Yes, the goals seem reasonable» 10 58%

No, the goals are set too high» 1 5%

Genomsnitt: 1.7

- I"m not sure about the goals, but I think the course wasn"t very well adapted to us comming from the product development master. I know several people in my class that dropped the course in the first week because it just felt overwhelming. The people in our class that came from M or Z hadn"t studied control for about 2 years and it felt more like everything was adapted to the MPSYS class that just came directly from another control course, and we were just expected to have the same knowledge as them. There should be some kind of quick recap at least that covers the basics for the PD class.» (?)
- The whole course is just repetition.» (No, the goals are set too low)

5. Did the examination assess whether you have reached the goals?

19 svarande

No, not at all» 1 5%

To some extent» 8 42%

Yes, definitely» 0 0%

I don"t know/have not been examined yet» 10 52%

Genomsnitt: 3

- I was very greatfull that I had a background in electrical engineering. I think that others may have found the exam to very hard and unfair.» (To some extent)
- Yes, but the problem was that the two preparation exams on the course"s web page were a lot easier than our real exam. Even though it was said that the exam was going to be similar to the preparation exams...» (To some extent)

Teaching and course administration

6. To what extent has the teaching been of help for your learning?

21 svarande

Small extent» 11 52%

Some extent» 10 47%

Large extent» 0 0%

Great extent» 0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.47

- Not at all, the teacher couldn"t teach, it went to slow, everything was repetition» (Small extent)
- Every lecture: "This subject is very wide and we do not have time to go into details". We learnt nothing about everything.» (Small extent)
- More focus should be put on the important part of the course. It was not easy to determine what was of greatest importance.» (Small extent)
- I do not like lecturer only read the slides during the class, otherwise, I can read it myself!» (Small extent)
- The teacher and assistants were happy to help when we came to the with problems, that was really good and helpfull.» (Some extent)

7. To what extent has the course literature and other material been of help for your learning?

21 svarande

Small extent» 4 19%

Some extent» 7 33%

Large extent» 7 33%

Great extent» 3 14%

Genomsnitt: 2.42

- The labs and computer exercises and such were great. I learned a lot from them. The course book was awful to read, boring and very lacking in the explanatory parts that was needed. I mainly used wikipedia instead, it had everything that was needed anyway with much better explainations.» (Small extent)
- I used the book "Introduction to Mechatronics" by Alciatore and Histand, and it proved to be a lot better than the recommended mechatronics book by Cetinkunt. But most information was found on wikipedia.» (Some extent)
- completely» (Great extent)
- preparation for the exam was mainly done with the old exams provided. for learning about the subject in general the computer assignments and laboratory exercises were suited also, but they had not much in common with the things needed to know to pass the exam. (Which is not bad itself.)» (Great extent)

8. How well did the course administration, web page, handouts etc work?

21 svarande

Very badly» 1 4%

Rather badly» 2 9%

Rather well» 15 71%

Very well» 3 14%

Genomsnitt: 2.95

- The handouts need revision. There is some bad grammar which make the persons responsible look bad.» (Rather well)
- Didn"t use it much, except when grabbing pdfs for papers and such.» (Rather well)
- Solutions to some problems were missing.» (Rather well)
- Everything that was essential for the course was to be found at one place, so the course web page has been very satisfactory.» (Very well)

Study climate

9. How were the opportunities for asking questions and getting help?

21 svarande

Very poor» 1 4%

Rather poor» 2 9%

Rather good» 6 28%

Very good» 8 38%

I did not seek help» 4 19%

Genomsnitt: 3.57

- we didn´,t get any answers since "the task could give us bonus points".. I think thats a poor pedagogy.» (Very poor)
- In one of the assignments we were told that no guidance woulde be given since it result in bonus points. That is fair, but a hint would be nice. Except for this, the lecturer were available and responded fast and that is appreciated.» (Rather poor)
- Esteban, nikolce and roozbeh does always seem happy to help with problems and hand ins. Very good!» (Very good)
- There was always someone in the "headquarters" to help with questions.» (Very good)
- Got help every time i needed it. Mosty by comming to the teachers and assistants room. They felt happy to help.» (Very good)

10. How well has cooperation between you and your fellow students worked?

21 svarande

Very poorly» 0 0%

Rather poorly» 0 0%

Rather well» 6 28%

Very well» 14 66%

I did not seek cooperation» 1 4%

Genomsnitt: 3.76

- This was the only way to gain information.» (Very well)

11. How was the course workload?

21 svarande

Too low» 0 0%

Low» 2 9%

Adequate» 12 57%

High» 5 23%

Too high» 2 9%

Genomsnitt: 3.33

- All time went to the handins» (Adequate)
- Periodically very high. The first computer assignment was very hard.» (High)
- It was unclear how much time should be spent on the assignments, and we probably worked too much with the assignment reports.» (High)
- since we got poor help» (Too high)
- Far too many assignments. All in all, five assignments with complementing reports. On top of this, two laboratory assignments which should be prepared in advance and finally a regular exam. » (Too high)

12. How was the total workload this study period?

21 svarande

Too low» 0 0%

Low» 1 4%

Adequate» 6 28%

High» 11 52%

Too high» 3 14%

Genomsnitt: 3.76

- and high. It was quite high, but it"s full time study and on a high level at a good university, therefore the workload should be high (and for sure not low!) to be adequate.» (Adequate)
- A lot of time is needed for the project course. » (High)
- one of my modules, mcc060 which is supposed to be in the 4th period has started earlier in the 3rd period.» (Too high)
- I took 3 courses this Sp» (Too high)
- See number of assignments above...» (Too high)

Summarizing questions

13. What is your general impression of the course?

21 svarande

Poor» 9 42%

Fair» 7 33%

Adequate» 4 19%

Good» 1 4%

Excellent» 0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.85

- Useless course, dont understand why this course is still in the master MPSYS, it is just repetition.» (Poor)
- The reading assignments were very uninteresting and I did not feel that they contributed any relevant information to the course. The topics seemed to be randomly picked and maybe they should be discussed in lectures so that students feel the connection better.» (Poor)
- The course feels like an repetition of the mechatronics course that we had the 2nd year in the M-program, but the exam was a big lot harder.» (Poor)
- Doesn"t seem very well planned. » (Poor)
- Not much was taught during the lectures. Once again, the number of assignments meant that in almost every lecture time was spent on explaining an upcoming assignment. » (Fair)
- The contents of the course are actually good but the teachers must be able to give better lectures/exercise sessions.» (Fair)
- This course should definately be on a bachelor level in the Z programme! A bit messy with the bonus point system, should be clearer to next year! The teacher should focus a bit more on lectures, many of us who took the course had never seen describing functions etc, and that was only given a very brief introduction, yet 10 points on the exam was on describing functions.» (Adequate)

14. What should definitely be preserved to next year?

- Not much really, since this course does not give any new information, for us from the Z-section.»
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- -»
- Good data labs, but the first needs more supervision and instructions.»
- I dont know»
- The computer assignments, both the compulsory and the voluntary were educational. Another part of the course that should be preserved is the second laboratory assignment.»
- computer exercises and assignment but not include paper reading!»
- Exams:I think it was a step forward not to use the exact same problems as previous years, but the problems should preferably be possible to solve without wikipedia. »
- The computer excercises and assignments»
- The DC-motor lab and the other automatic control/driveline/backlash lab. The first computer assignment (backlash modelling) was also very good.»
- Give old exams to the students for preparation for the exam.»

15. What should definitely be changed to next year?

- The material, the course is given and recommended for MPSYS and should definitely be something new for us Z-students.»
- answer questions. get a more bonus system that is easier to understand. Don´,t change the bonus system during the course!»
- -»
- The first problem-solution session was not very clear.»
- the lecturer needs to be more dynamic»
- Examinator»
- A teacher that can teach his subject. Dont have it as a mandatory course for those who want the specialisation mechatronics. If the cours must continue next year, go through the content and replace all the repetition, this course teach the same as the basic cources and is just as basic to, NOT master level.»
- First of all, exclude the paper reading assignments. I don´,t know what purpose they serve, we have other courses where we learn to read critical and review other peoples work, i.e. bachelor and masters thesis. The first laboratory assignment needs to be updated or excluded. And also the course syllabus should be determined before the course start and not be changed a week into the period as it was this time. »
- Teaching method»
- The reading assignments»
- Exchange the Cetinkunt book for the superior Alciatore & Histand book, eliminate bonus system, have mandatory assignments starting early, do not fiddle with the exam: include 5 problems and use normal grading, i.e. 40, 60 and 80% for 3, 4 and 5 respectively. Pretty much just make the course follow usual Chalmers standards!»
- Better introduction to the course for the PD students. Felt misplaced in the start of the course, like I"ve gotten tossed right into an MPSYS class without having the proper prerequisites. We hadn"t studied control for several years and still we"re expected to remember all of it from the start.»
- Make the lectures and exercise sessions better. And remove the paper reading assignment which only is waste of time - it is an APPLIED course and not a paper reading course.»
- I know that the students attending the course have a very different level of knowledge, and therefore it"s hard to find the right difficulty of the matter presented. But there was too much time spent with trivialities, whereas more complicated things were not explained well enough. Sometimes the points in the powerpoint slides were more or less told again to the listener, but in a very slow way and without adding value, therefore at times it became boring. Either go fast through the points already visible on the slides or add substantial amount of information and really explain them.»

16. Additional comments

- This course is not very "applied" as the name implies. Only the guest lecture was applid i think.»
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- When arriving in exercise sessions, sometimes we didn"t know in what the lectures where useful. Because some lectures does correspond to any exercise.»
- The teacher seemed a bit insecure, new with teaching? Anyway, he doesn"t have to be because otherwise the lectures were good. Just don"t spend too much time on forml matters like exam structure, hand ins and labs.»
- How can this course still exist as it is when older students also has complained about its low levle and repetition?»
- Not sure that this course should be aimed at several programs. It felt like those who are taking the master in systems, control & mechatronics has great advantage otherwise it must be too easy for them.»
- Esteban is new on Chalmers and he is doing a great job with the course. However, i believe that a it lies upon Chalmers as a whole or in this case on the S2 department to really have a thorough briefing on how things work here. I mean, the poor guy doesnt even know about cortegen! Make visiting doctors or professors feel more welcome!!!»
- I did not feel that the course was applied to anything special. There was a huge focus on motors, and less on other parts- which I felt was more important than motor stuff. But then again, I am in electrical engineering.»
- The describing function document was of no use whatsoever on the exam. There was really no point in being able to skip the first problem in the exam. This was the easiest problem on the exam and I did not feel that I gained anything by not having to do it.»
- A course in teaching practise (pedagogik) would be good for the lecturer. But so is the case for very many of chalmers lecturers...»

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