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MPDSD Design Systems ARK 176 vt10
Status: Avslutad Öppen för svar: 2010-03-10 - 2010-05-15 Antal svar: 29 Procent av deltagarna som svarat: 90% Kontaktperson: Jaan-Henrik Kain» Utbildningsprogram som genomför enkäten: Arkitektur 300 hp Utbildningsprogram studenten tillhör: Arkitektur 300 hp
Goals and fullfilment of goalsThe learning outcomes are given in the course programme. This is the knowledge, understanding, skills and perspectives you are expected to reach. Put down for each outcome how well they have been fulfilled.1. Learning outcome 1*After completion of this course, the student should be able to: Explain systems thinking and its relevance for design, architecture and planning.29 svarande
Very insufficient» | | 1 | | 3% |
Insufficient» | | 6 | | 20% |
Sufficient» | | 21 | | 72% |
Excellent» | | 1 | | 3% |
No opinion» | | 0 | | |
Genomsnitt: 2.75 (bidrar till totalt genomsnitt/jämförelseindex) - more discussion and input within the area needed» (Insufficient)
- I find system thinking very usefull, but the course may be to short to get all the things clear» (Sufficient)
2. Learning outcome 2*After completion of this course, the student should be able to: Select systems thinking approaches that are relevant for a specific design, architecture or planning task.29 svarande
Very insufficient» | | 1 | | 3% |
Insufficient» | | 7 | | 24% |
Sufficient» | | 19 | | 65% |
Excellent» | | 2 | | 6% |
No opinion» | | 0 | | |
Genomsnitt: 2.75 (bidrar till totalt genomsnitt/jämförelseindex) - not dealt with» (Insufficient)
3. Learning outcome 3*After completion of this course, the student should be able to: Structure knowledge through systems thinking by using selected approaches in descriptions.29 svarande
Very insufficient» | | 0 | | 0% |
Insufficient» | | 4 | | 13% |
Sufficient» | | 23 | | 79% |
Excellent» | | 2 | | 6% |
No opinion» | | 0 | | 0% |
Genomsnitt: 2.93 (bidrar till totalt genomsnitt/jämförelseindex) 4. Learning outcome 4*After completion of this course, the student should be able to: To tentatively analyze and synthesize complex knowledge by employing systems thinking in design work, i.e., by combining and integrating different systems approaches.29 svarande
Very insufficient» | | 1 | | 3% |
Insufficient» | | 7 | | 25% |
Sufficient» | | 15 | | 55% |
Excellent» | | 4 | | 14% |
No opinion» | | 2 | | |
Genomsnitt: 2.81 (bidrar till totalt genomsnitt/jämförelseindex) 5. Learning outcome 5*After completion of this course, the student should be able to: Translate such analysis and synthesis into a draft design proposals, using systems thinking as language of communication and justification (assignments 1 and 2).29 svarande
Very insufficient» | | 2 | | 6% |
Insufficient» | | 4 | | 13% |
Sufficient» | | 21 | | 72% |
Excellent» | | 2 | | 6% |
No opinion» | | 0 | | |
Genomsnitt: 2.79 (bidrar till totalt genomsnitt/jämförelseindex) - I know how to understand systems, but not how to apply them to a new design proposal.» (Insufficient)
6. Learning outcome 6*After completion of this course, the student should be able to: Reformulate such analysis and synthesis into a more complex design program (assignment 3).29 svarande
Very Insufficient» | | 1 | | 3% |
Insufficient» | | 4 | | 14% |
Sufficient» | | 20 | | 74% |
Excellent» | | 2 | | 7% |
No opinion» | | 2 | | |
Genomsnitt: 2.85 (bidrar till totalt genomsnitt/jämförelseindex) - more guidence needed» (Insufficient)
7. Are these objectives reasonable in relation to your pre-knowledge?*29 svarande
No, the goals are to elementary» | | 2 | | 7% |
Yes, the goals are reasonable» | | 25 | | 89% |
No, the goals are too ambitious» | | 1 | | 3% |
No opinion» | | 1 | | |
Genomsnitt: 1.96 - The goals are too ambitious because Design Systems was a whole new topic/way of working and, especially having to apply systems thinking in design, an area which is approached more intuitively rather than analytically. » (No, the goals are too ambitious)
8. Are the goals reasonable in relation to the scope and amount of credits?*29 svarande
No, the goals are to elementary» | | 1 | | 3% |
Yes, the goals are reasonable» | | 23 | | 82% |
No, the goals are too ambitious» | | 4 | | 14% |
No opinion» | | 1 | | |
Genomsnitt: 2.1 - Although I believe course could last longer, explain more and be worth more points.» (Yes, the goals are reasonable)
- ..if the basis of knowledge can be extended» (Yes, the goals are reasonable)
Genomsnitt totalt för detta stycke: 2.81
LecturesTo what extent did the lectures contribute to the learning outcomes and as support for solving the assignments?9. Systems thinking - Jaan-Henrik Kain*29 svarande
Not at all» | | 4 | | 14% |
To some extent» | | 9 | | 32% |
Quite well» | | 10 | | 35% |
Excellently» | | 5 | | 17% |
No opinion» | | 1 | | |
Genomsnitt: 2.57 - I really like most of the lectures. » (Excellently)
10. Exercise in System Dynamics - Patrik Wallman*29 svarande
Not at all» | | 1 | | 3% |
To some extent» | | 3 | | 11% |
Quite well» | | 13 | | 50% |
Excellently» | | 9 | | 34% |
No opinion» | | 3 | | |
Genomsnitt: 3.15 - The absolutley necesary lecture that gave the base for the whole course. » (Excellently)
- This was perhaps one of the most beneficial lectures because CLDs played a major role in all our assignments thereafter. The lecture was very interactive and applying the concepts in groups made it easier to grasp. There was a clear exercise which demonstrated how small systems can be combined to make larger, more complex systems using CLDs. » (Excellently)
11. Performance-oriented design - Michael Hensel*29 svarande
Not at all» | | 2 | | 7% |
To some extent» | | 4 | | 15% |
Quite well» | | 15 | | 57% |
Excellently» | | 5 | | 19% |
No opinion» | | 3 | | |
Genomsnitt: 2.88 - Very interesting» (Excellently)
- Very inspirational and interesting. I felt that we should have had more time for discussion.» (Excellently)
12. Nature and environment - Ulrika Palme*29 svarande
Not at all» | | 2 | | 7% |
To some extent» | | 10 | | 37% |
Quite well» | | 13 | | 48% |
Excellently» | | 2 | | 7% |
No opinion» | | 2 | | |
Genomsnitt: 2.55 - It was useful to the extent of understanding how biological systems work, but may have lacked in architectural relevance. » (Quite well)
- very interesting» (Quite well)
13. Buildings as systems - Liane Thuvander*29 svarande
Not at all» | | 2 | | 6% |
To some extent» | | 16 | | 55% |
Quite well» | | 8 | | 27% |
Excellently» | | 3 | | 10% |
No opinion» | | 0 | | |
Genomsnitt: 2.41 14. Collage - Lena Hopsch*29 svarande
Not at all» | | 10 | | 34% |
To some extent» | | 10 | | 34% |
Quite well» | | 7 | | 24% |
Excellently» | | 2 | | 6% |
No opinion» | | 0 | | |
Genomsnitt: 2.03 - That lecture was a joke and an insult to my intelligence.» (Not at all)
- it looked kind of unplanned, or I didn"t get the theme maybe.» (Not at all)
15. Risk Assessment - Krystyna Pietrzyk*29 svarande
Not at all» | | 5 | | 17% |
To some extent» | | 14 | | 48% |
Quite well» | | 9 | | 31% |
Excellently» | | 1 | | 3% |
No opinion» | | 0 | | |
Genomsnitt: 2.2 16. Economy - Anders Ekbom*29 svarande
Not at all» | | 0 | | 0% |
To some extent» | | 9 | | 32% |
Quite well» | | 14 | | 50% |
Excellently» | | 5 | | 17% |
No opinion» | | 1 | | |
Genomsnitt: 2.85 17. Politics - Sverker Jagers*29 svarande
Not at all» | | 1 | | 3% |
To some extent» | | 6 | | 21% |
Quite well» | | 17 | | 60% |
Excellently» | | 4 | | 14% |
No opinion» | | 1 | | |
Genomsnitt: 2.85 - He is interesting to listen to» (Quite well)
- He is great!» (Quite well)
18. Systems of systems - Jaan-Henrik Kain*29 svarande
Not at all» | | 2 | | 6% |
To some extent» | | 8 | | 27% |
Quite well» | | 13 | | 44% |
Excellently» | | 6 | | 20% |
No opinion» | | 0 | | |
Genomsnitt: 2.79 - At that point the name of the lecture "systems of systems" was a bit too much. I think many of us was confused and didnt know what the course would lead to. » (Quite well)
19. Systems and Architecture - Marcus von Euler*29 svarande
Not at all» | | 2 | | 7% |
To some extent» | | 7 | | 25% |
Quite well» | | 12 | | 42% |
Excellently» | | 7 | | 25% |
No opinion» | | 1 | | |
Genomsnitt: 2.85 20. Conservation - Inger Lise Syversen*29 svarande
Not at all» | | 2 | | 7% |
To some extent» | | 10 | | 38% |
Quite well» | | 12 | | 46% |
Excellently» | | 2 | | 7% |
No opinion» | | 3 | | |
Genomsnitt: 2.53 21. Functions and flows - Birger Sevaldson*29 svarande
Not at all» | | 1 | | 3% |
To some extent» | | 3 | | 11% |
Quite well» | | 15 | | 55% |
Excellently» | | 8 | | 29% |
No opinion» | | 2 | | |
Genomsnitt: 3.11 - Should have been in the beginning of the course» (Excellently)
22. Programs for planning and building - Henrik Levin and Anders Ekberg*29 svarande
Not at all» | | 4 | | 14% |
To some extent» | | 9 | | 33% |
Quite well» | | 11 | | 40% |
Excellently» | | 3 | | 11% |
No opinion» | | 2 | | |
Genomsnitt: 2.48
Education and course administration23. What support did you get for your learning from course literature and other material?*29 svarande
Very little» | | 2 | | 6% |
Rather little» | | 8 | | 27% |
Rather big» | | 16 | | 55% |
Very big» | | 3 | | 10% |
No opinion» | | 0 | | |
Genomsnitt: 2.68 - But it rather my fault not to use it. But I found it usefull to have some of the presentations lecturers were leaving after lectures. Especilly from Programs for planning and building» (Rather little)
- Not enough time for reading.» (Rather little)
- Interesting course literature and really help clarify areas which seemed to brief when presented in the lectures. Some literature was very long with rather difficult language, it was a little overwhelming because of this especially when also trying to grasp the new subject. Shorter literature which had more concrete examples of how systems thinking is applied in design etc. was more successful as a learning tool for beginners in Design Systems. » (Rather big)
24. Literature seminar. To what extent did the literature seminar contribute to the learning outcomes and as support for solving the assignments?*29 svarande
Not at all» | | 2 | | 7% |
To some extent» | | 11 | | 39% |
Quite well» | | 13 | | 46% |
Excellently» | | 2 | | 7% |
No opinion» | | 1 | | |
Genomsnitt: 2.53 - Well, unwatched discussion turned to talks about sustainibility rather than systems, I believe we have no idea what should be the outcome so we have really free talk.» (Not at all)
- I think the literature didn"t explain as well as when you were in the seminars.» (To some extent)
- The literature contributed to some extend, but not the seminar itself.» (To some extent)
25. How did the organisation, memoranda, direct information etc. function?*29 svarande
Very bad» | | 2 | | 7% |
Rather bad» | | 1 | | 3% |
Rather well» | | 17 | | 60% |
Very well» | | 8 | | 28% |
No opinion» | | 1 | | |
Genomsnitt: 3.1 - Exept for the last mail, thet specified what to hand in for the last assignment. It came when we didnt have any more time to work on, at the schedual. Not good.» (Rather well)
26. Assignments. To what extent did Assignment 1 contribute to the learning outcomes?*29 svarande
Not at all» | | 0 | | 0% |
To some extent» | | 6 | | 20% |
Quite well» | | 20 | | 68% |
Excellently» | | 3 | | 10% |
No opinion» | | 0 | | |
Genomsnitt: 2.89 27. Assignments. To what extent did Assignment 2 contribute to the learning outcomes?*29 svarande
Not at all» | | 0 | | 0% |
To some extent» | | 4 | | 13% |
Quite well» | | 21 | | 72% |
Excellently» | | 4 | | 13% |
No opinion» | | 0 | | |
Genomsnitt: 3 28. Assignments. To what extent did Assignment 3 contribute to the learning outcomes?*29 svarande
Not at all» | | 0 | | 0% |
To some extent» | | 7 | | 24% |
Quite well» | | 12 | | 41% |
Excellently» | | 10 | | 34% |
No opinion» | | 0 | | |
Genomsnitt: 3.1
Work environment29. How do you rate the possibilities to get assistance and ask questions?29 svarande
Very bad» | | 0 | | 0% |
Rather bad» | | 6 | | 20% |
Rather good» | | 19 | | 65% |
Very good» | | 4 | | 13% |
Genomsnitt: 2.93 - Could have been more assistence time» (Rather bad)
- Too little support during the consultation. In consultation you told my group that you were "not convinced" - since you are the teacher in my opinion it"s you who should "convince" us why systems thinking is a usable tool. One way could have been to explain why we didn"t "convince" you...
I also unfortunately feel that the assessment on the last day of the course was a disappointment. Something went completely wrong with the time there - def not enough time for any useful opinions from your part. I think it"s strange that we did a report that no-one has looked at, or at least not given us any feedback about. As you know the slideshow was only a brief presentation of what we worked on for assignment 3. It is strange that the "guest-critics" hadn"t looked through our work - why were they there? And no time for discussion which is what might have made their presence worth while. That was too bad, personally I think that the feedback, critique, assessment is a chance to understand the field, but that chance was lost.» (Rather bad)
- It would have been "very good" if it was possible to get assistance when it was needed rather than just at consultations because oftentimes there were many questions that where arising after consultations. Also, because of having guest lectures, getting assistance from them was not so straight forward, and therefore did not use them to our full advantage. » (Rather good)
- unfortunately the opportunities to ask questions to guests were not well coordinated with the project work» (Rather good)
30. How has the cooperation between the students in your group been?*29 svarande
Very bad» | | 1 | | 3% |
Rather bad» | | 5 | | 17% |
Rather good» | | 19 | | 65% |
Very good» | | 4 | | 13% |
No opinion» | | 0 | | |
Genomsnitt: 2.89 - We have spent alot of time on discussing meanings of words (we were multinational group). We have also problems with finding one strategy, everyone was rather pulling into his direction.» (Rather bad)
- Good in one group bad in another» (Rather good)
- I am not able to say very good because it was very challenging to get the whole groups to be on the same page in terms of what is required for the assignment. I think this is primarily to do with the fact that we had different levels of understanding of what systems thinking is and how it works in design. I think here needs to be a more clearly defined way of working within each group. There should be a designated project leader, note taker etc etc and these roles should be rotated amongst the group members for the different assignments.» (Rather good)
Concluding questions31. What is your overall opinion of the course?*29 svarande
Very bad» | | 3 | | 10% |
Bad» | | 2 | | 7% |
Good» | | 18 | | 64% |
Very good» | | 5 | | 17% |
No opinion» | | 1 | | |
Genomsnitt: 2.89 - it was a confusing course that I could not find how can we use it especially in Architecture market.» (Good)
- I think its an interesting approach but there is things that could be improved. I was looking for a course that gave structure to the design work. And in some ways it did. But in other ways it was really confusing. It is a really new field to work in for us and i think it needs more background information. More knowledge and basic info. » (Good)
- "Ok" would be more to the point.» (Good)
- Very interesting topics, but some rather difficult to understand though.» (Good)
- I actually enjoyed the course because it was an opportunity to forget about the studio project and learn about something else, though the last assignment was about the studio project, it helped me to have a different approach to it.» (Very good)
- That was the first time I have learned about system thinking and I liked it much. I like the approach to more systematical, analysis-based design.» (Very good)
- I think the course has been successful in the sense that I came in with little to no idea what Design Systems and systems thinking is about and now I am actually convinced that it should be applied and practiced in our designs. It is also something that I would be interested to explore further so it has been a good starting point. On the same note, there was so much to learn for new beginners in this subject and it became difficult to know how and where to apply different strategies of systems analysis in design. As a result, I felt that to many of use stuck to CLDs and SWOT diagrams rather than exploring other (perhaps more relevant) strategies. » (Very good)
32. What should be preserved next year?- Challenging assignments»
- Scope of lectures and number of assignments.»
- ...»
- the literature references»
- Many of the lectures was interesting. »
- the separated exercise »
- Patrik Wallman, Ulrika Palme, Michael Hensel and especially Birger Sevaldsson should all be invited to participate next year. Birger should also be invited to redesign the course for next year, so that we can enhance the design systems concept to not only include CLD:s. Even though it was evident that the CLD way isn"t the only tool, we weren"t explicitly shown anything else until Birger"s lecture. Some experience from Birger"s course should enrich the students on what design systems could be about from the start.»
- The groupwork. »
- - guest lectures because it gives a fresh insight and interesting fields in the topics
- selecting groups at random as it encourages students to mix and interact with others in the class
- structuring of the assignments, building on the details and context as we were learning more
»
- Birger Sevaldsson»
- Different approaches to systems.»
- the lecture with birger sevaldson was very rewarding. could the cooperation be extended? workshop?»
- Some lectures were realy boring. The lecture with Positive-Negative diagrams was excellent. Please more lectures from the same person !»
33. What should be changed next year?- Give all the requirments at the begining»
- The last assignment shouldn"t be about the studio, it would be good to continue with the same project as in assignment 1 and 2»
- ...»
- the timing of the third assignment, so that it is completed before the studio project»
- More basic info about systems and the history and contemporary use of it in the field of architecture. As it is today we didnt really know what to do and many times it was frustrating. At the end almost all groups did causal loop diagrams. But what more? I think it could have been a better learning outcome if we had more options. It is an enormous field, and we didnt really learn how to use the tools. If we should work with the causal loop diagrams it would be good to know even more about them. Now it was onley one lecture that really focused on it, I think it could be more. More info on how the diagrams work, the practical tools. What signs there is and so on... »
- i guess the number of the people should be decreased to 3 or two for each assignment, and every assignment needs more frequent supervision during the course.»
- Lena Hopsch should be removed, her lecture didn"t add anything of value to the course, and I must say: a waste of time. And PLEASE make the introduction lecture into something more inviting, as for now it"s a sleeping pill.»
- You need to be more clear on what systems thinking is. And also about what you want in the assignments - I"m thinking about assignment 3, where we got the wanted number of "functions" and "criteria" when we had one morning left before hand-in.
As I wrote above I was disappointed with the way the critique on the last day was conducted. A learning opportunity was missed there, mainly because of lack of time. If you take any of this serious you should really rethink the schedule for the critique - more time for discussion and opinions from external crits" (that obviously should look through the student"s work before hand)»
- - post all lecture notes before hand so that we could skim through prior to lectures and have the possibility to print notes before the lectures
- perhaps have two assignments rather than three, allowing for more time and therefore detailed work for each
- the lectures should have more emphasis on architecture and design so it is more relevant to our studies and easier for us to apply
- 100% attendance should be more flexible if one has a justifiable reason for being absent
- more time during presentations, 7 minutes was definitely not enough time to demonstrate a good understanding of the subject because we cannot explain the work process and thinking that went into our projects»
- Take away some of the lectures and focus more on the tools. »
- Try to be more specific in how to apply those analysis to a new project.»
- can more examples of systems in design be found, shown and discussed?»
- Boring lectures should be replaced with something better.»
34. Other comments...- maybe there should be a clearer approach on how to relate systems thinking to design proses. Use some existing examples and compare different succesfull approaches»
- ...»
- although the course was confusing at times, i found the literature very useful and the assignments good practice in applying what we"ve learned.»
- I think there has been a lack of communication in this group of students. If people do not understand they tend to be quiet an d it was the case here. The complicated subject restricted people from using there imagination and free thinking. I do not now how to deal with this but it has been a problem. »
- Jaan Henrik Kain should take help from others who likes to teach to a larger extent.»
- Overall a very interesting course, and I think it could be even better if it was spread out over a longer period of time just so that the subject can be explored in more detail. Thanks!»
Genomsnitt totalt för alla frågor: 2.81 Beräknat jämförelseindex: 0.57* obligatoriska frågor
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