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Internet Technology, Lp 1 Ht2009, EDA386/DIT661

Status: Avslutad
Öppen för svar: 2009-10-12 - 2009-10-28
Antal svar: 43
Procent av deltagarna som svarat: 9%
Kontaktperson: Åsa Samdell»

Your own effort

1. How many hours per week did you spend on this course?

We mean total time, that is, it comprises the time you spent in class and the time you spent on your own work. Try to estimate the average time over the entire study period.

43 svarande

At most 15 hours/week»13 30%
Around 20 hours/week»12 27%
Around 25 hours/week»6 13%
Around 30 hours/week»10 23%
At least 35 hours/week»2 4%

Genomsnitt: 2.44

- It is so hard to spend time on this course when it is so boring (lectures). I have no problem spending time on a course if i find it good or interesting» (At most 15 hours/week)
- Exjobb samtidigt» (At most 15 hours/week)
- I was already somewhat familiar with the course contents, and didn"t have to study at home much.» (At most 15 hours/week)
- unfortunately, as it was in my first quarter and i was not so familiar with the quarter based courses, i spent a few time on this course. :(» (At most 15 hours/week)
- I have spent more time on project» (Around 20 hours/week)
- last 2 week more than 40 hours» (Around 20 hours/week)

2. How large part of the teaching offered did you attend?

43 svarande

0%»3 6%
25%»7 16%
50%»12 27%
75%»9 20%
100%»12 27%

Genomsnitt: 3.46

- The lecturer always goes off-track on the lecture to talk about life experiences. this just make waste of our time when it comes to learn internet technology. The lecturer talks about the intended topic for the lecture but then incorporates some other stuff and then comes back to the intended lecture. So personally it is hard to focus on the topic» (25%)
- The slides were chaotic and bad and the teacher could try to articulate more/talk slower.» (50%)
- I had a lot over overlap between this course another one.» (50%)
- I couldn"t attend all the classes because I had conflicts with an other course.» (50%)
- Exjobb samtidigt» (50%)
- It is rather difficult to understand the teacher.» (50%)
- By my own choosing I decided to attend 3 courses simultaneously, and due to other personal factors I had an overload of work sometimes, which required me to stay home and finish homework for this and other courses.» (50%)
- The teacher was not able to deliver the intended knowledge. The lectures were not focus. Putting copied pages from the book onto slides and just talking around does not give any help for the students.» (50%)
- unfortunately not useful enough» (75%)
- very very helpfull to understand the topics :)» (100%)
- 90%» (100%)

Goals and goal fulfilment

The course syllabus states the course goals in terms of learning outcomes, i.e., knowledge, skills and attitudes to be acquired by the student during the course.

3. How understandable are the course goals?

43 svarande

I have not seen/read the goals»5 11%
The goals are difficult to understand»3 6%
The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer»19 44%
The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn»16 37%

Genomsnitt: 3.06

- The course book was fine, but I felt that papers are really out of the scope.. I think the course should only concentrate on the course book..» (The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer)

4. Are the goals reasonable considering your background and the number of credits?

Answer this this question and the succeeding one, only if you do know the course goals.

38 svarande

No, the goals are set too low»1 2%
Yes, the goals seem reasonable»34 89%
No, the goals are set too high»3 7%

Genomsnitt: 2.05

5. Did the examination assess whether you have reached the goals?

39 svarande

No, not at all»3 7%
To some extent»13 33%
Yes, definitely»10 25%
I don"t know/have not been examined yet»13 33%

Genomsnitt: 2.84

- The exam omitted many of the central aspects of the course that a lot of time had been put into (for example TCP, DNS and mobile IP). Some of the questions were on very obscure parts of the course that had not been given any time at all during the lectures.» (No, not at all)
- The exam was just too broad and too many questions. It seems as though teachers want students to be computers to remember everything they have been thought within the 1st 7 weeks in Gothenburg. The standard of the exam was too high and not called for.» (To some extent)

Teaching and course administration

6. To what extent has the teaching been of help for your learning?

43 svarande

Small extent»15 34%
Some extent»14 32%
Large extent»12 27%
Great extent»2 4%

Genomsnitt: 2.02

- The teacher just some us pages ofthe book.» (Small extent)
- - I had problems to understand the teacher because of his accent - The major part of the slides used in classes were just copies of the course book.» (Small extent)
- It is more efficiently to read the book alone.» (Small extent)
- Often very unfocused lectures. Sometimes very hard to understand the teacher"s English.» (Small extent)
- Föreläsningarna var allt annat än bra. Kopiera inte sidor från en bok och lägg på overheaden. Prata tydligare och prata om saker som faktiskt har med kursen att göra.» (Small extent)
- The lectures was not so detailed and technical that I would have wanted them to be.» (Some extent)
- I joined classes on 2007» (Some extent)
- sometimes too much emphesise on some topics,but the lectures was very consistent and helpfull.» (Large extent)

7. To what extent has the course literature and other material been of help for your learning?

43 svarande

Small extent»2 4%
Some extent»11 25%
Large extent»24 55%
Great extent»6 13%

Genomsnitt: 2.79

- I prefered lecture notes but book figures also usefull.» (Small extent)
- I just read the book» (Large extent)
- but the time was really limited to be able to learn ans study all of them.but thiose were helpful» (Large extent)
- I could not access the new course materials of 2009 although I re-registered the course to access the new course materials. Actually I did not need to re-register the course to sit for the exam. The exam registration option came to my student account automatically within right time although I am an old student.» (Large extent)
- this applies for the course book only.. i felt that the papers were really out of scope.» (Large extent)
- Very good course book focusing on the important aspects without too much fuzz and unnecessary text.» (Great extent)
- Everything is about the book. The material is so vast that the teacher cannot reasonably cover it to the detail required in the exam in the time he is given.» (Great extent)

8. How well did the course administration, web page, handouts etc work?

42 svarande

Very badly»2 4%
Rather badly»8 19%
Rather well»25 59%
Very well»7 16%

Genomsnitt: 2.88

- I could not access the new course materials of 2009 although I re-registered the course to access the new course materials. Actually I did not need to re-register the course to sit for the exam. The exam registration option came to my student account automatically within right time although I am an old student.» (Very badly)
- some of the presentation which the lecturer used was not there» (Rather badly)
- Att Ping-pong ändrade inloggning i slutet är inte kursens fel, utan IT-service (eller liknande). Inte så himla smart, jag har inte kunnat logga in på kurssidan på snart 2 veckor och jag har varit i kontakt med IT-service både via e-mail och telefon, utan resultat ...» (Rather well)
- materials allways updated » (Very well)
- Only once I was confused with the deadlines for Labs 3 and 4 appearing before the deadline for Lab 2.» (Very well)

Study climate

9. How were the opportunities for asking questions and getting help?

42 svarande

Very poor»0 0%
Rather poor»8 19%
Rather good»17 40%
Very good»13 30%
I did not seek help»4 9%

Genomsnitt: 3.3

- Only possible to ask in the lectures?» (Rather poor)
- the teacher was great,he was spending almost half an hour after class to answer questions also he was always ready in class earlier than students so one can get help :)» (Very good)
- I joined classes on 2007» (Very good)

10. How well has cooperation between you and your fellow students worked?

42 svarande

Very poorly»2 4%
Rather poorly»1 2%
Rather well»21 50%
Very well»15 35%
I did not seek cooperation»3 7%

Genomsnitt: 3.38

- But only for the labs.» (Rather well)

11. How was the course workload?

43 svarande

Too low»0 0%
Low»3 6%
Adequate»19 44%
High»14 32%
Too high»7 16%

Genomsnitt: 3.58

- The level may be to low I think. Especially the labs. Most content in course was already learned in a prerequisite course in computer networks» (Low)
- I think there could be more topics to cover in this course.» (Low)
- But probably because I have some personal knowledge to the subject.» (Low)
- A lot of content. And seen in retrospective with the exam written, a LOT of minor details to be learnt as well.» (High)
- Blev tungt eftersom kursen inte startade fören i slutet på LV2» (High)
- the material is too loaded to be taken in one quarter..» (Too high)

12. How was the total workload this study period?

43 svarande

Too low»0 0%
Low»2 4%
Adequate»17 39%
High»15 34%
Too high»9 20%

Genomsnitt: 3.72

- since I am in my second year of master program,I could not find interesting courses with having examination dates far enough to study but during the quarter it was ok!» (Adequate)
- Two courses which both demanded a vast amount of reading.» (Too high)

Summarizing questions

13. What is your general impression of the course?

42 svarande

Poor»3 7%
Fair»9 21%
Adequate»13 30%
Good»15 35%
Excellent»2 4%

Genomsnitt: 3.09

- Could be so much better if the teacher was lecturing on what he was supposed to talk about and not other stuff. Labs was ok.» (Poor)
- Interesting content, but not very well carried out.» (Fair)
- The Exam was too tough and Course sylibus was too much!!!!!» (Fair)
- The lectures were not good but the labs interesting» (Adequate)
- Bad overview of the lectures notes on the web page.» (Adequate)
- Överlapp med tidigare kurs i datorkommunikation/kommunikationssystem. Kursen skall utgå från de kunskaper studenter som gått på skolan tidigare har, inte nyanlända. Bedrövligt att de flesta masterskurser har överlapp med gamla kurser.» (Good)
- I only have one major concern about the lecturer, so please take a few minutes in reading this complain and thinking about it. Once, the lecturer made a religious comment during his lecturing and I really found it unappropriate, specially for an experienced and a proffesional guy like him. To remind you, while you were talking about some problems concerning the DNS, you said: Now who is going to solve these problem?!! GOD?!!! ALLAH ?!!!.. you said it in a mocking way, and of course, some students, the ones who don"t care about religion, laughed at that, but on the other side, you hurt the feelings of other muslim students who are by the way about half the number of your students. I really felt bad and I didn"t attend the next 4 or 5 lectures.. I even tried to complain to the student centre, but they were not that cooperative, which is another problem. So I decided to just write about that in the evaluation, and hope that someone can think about it to know if he was right or wrong.... Sometimes human beings can be so good at something, but they can really mess up in more important things...» (Good)

14. What should definitely be preserved to next year?

- labs are interesting»
- Introduction to C, the course added in the beginning»
- Labs 1 and 3/4»
- the book is verywell designed for simple education, and easy to undrestand. it is really good,but the lecturer was not as i though.»
- The labs were quite interesting.»
- The labs can be preserved.»
- the teacher is very cooperative.»
- Föreläsaren!»
- the instructors are really good»
- The course book.»
- Book»
- teaching procedures»
- All the labs are good should be kept.»
- TCP/UDP programming in C»
- labs»
- Content of the course.»
- I appreciate the options to resit for the exam. It gives the student free opportunity to study until the student thinks that he can´,t go on no more.»

15. What should definitely be changed to next year?

- The C crash course should be parallel with the Internet Technology course, and delay of the Internet Technology course creates even more pressure in the late of this period.»
- use java instead of C»
- Lab 3&4. And add more scheduled lab occasions for lab 1»
- Lab 2: not really interesting to read documentation about a norm which is not used»
- the lecturer.his accent is awful. i really can not undrestand anything, he did not teach us evena principle concepts.»
- The slides should not just be copies of the book. If we want to read the book, we can do it at home. The courses should reflect the major aspects or points of the lesson.»
- lecturer!»
- maybe more topics should be added»
- Personer utifrån som klart och tydligt inte uppfyller kraven för en avslutning på D (vissa har aldrig programmerat förut?!). Ryktet kommer gå i botten om man fortsätter så här.»
- More technical lectures. And group excercises. This is the first course in networks and distributed systems. group excecrise would not only contribute to learning but to meet other students»
- specify which topics to emphasize for exams and for knowledge»
- The lectures need to be more focused and contain less anecdotes. The lectures also need to be held in a more understandable English.»
- Byt föreläsare. Labb pm för första labben var dåligt formulerat och det behöver framgå tydligare vad uppgiften går ut på.»
- i think it would be better if the course was not offered in the first quarter.»
- Professor»
- course contents should be trimmed........»
- The network programming aspect. It is totally unrealistic»
- More exam answers should be distributed.»
- nothing special»
- DCCP, multimedia networking»
- + The lecturer. + An overview should be given for the whole course (what it will cover) and also for each lecture. This was done very well in the course Computer Security - EDA263.»
- New course home page should be available for the old students who still could not pass the course. Otherwise, it would be more difficult for the old students to pass the course without accessing new course materials.»

16. Additional comments

- I think the course could be so much better with a better lecturer. I do not mean that he do not know Internet technology but he seems to go off track so often, so one feels the lectures are very unfocused»
- fairly check the examination there are students who are new to the technologies n study styles be more expressing n exemplary for the above mentioned students»
- Lecture Classes were not useful at all. Lab assignments was good. Book was excellent»
- The exam is extremely difficult because the study material is too vast and the questions though concrete, require a lot of writing to fullfill. It"s hard to remember all the details asked for in the exam over such a vast material.»
- No»
- too many topics in such short period»

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