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Timber Engineering 2009, VSM196

Status: Avslutad
Öppen för svar: 2009-03-19 - 2009-03-30
Antal svar: 23
Procent av deltagarna som svarat: 56%
Kontaktperson: Björn Engström»
Utbildningsprogram studenten tillhör: Väg- och vattenbyggnad 300 hp

Your own effort

1. How many hours per week did you spend on this course?

We mean total time, that is, it comprises the time you spent in class and the time you spent on your own work. Try to estimate the average time per week over the entire study period.

23 svarande

At most 15 hours/week»0 0%
Around 20 hours/week»4 17%
Around 25 hours/week»6 26%
Around 30 hours/week»8 34%
At least 35 hours/week»5 21%

Genomsnitt: 3.6

- The design task was really time consuming.» (Around 25 hours/week)
- design task !!!» (Around 30 hours/week)
- I like this course» (At least 35 hours/week)

2. How large part of the teaching offered did you attend?

23 svarande

0%»0 0%
25%»2 8%
50%»2 8%
75%»7 30%
100%»12 52%

Genomsnitt: 4.26

- They didnt seem to be as important as spending time working on the tasks» (50%)
- I stopped attending the exercises after a while because I think it wasn"t really useful to do them in full class, and because the correction didn"t differ from the one on the portal. So I found better to practice on my own. » (75%)
- both the two parts(lecture and exercise) are well prepared.» (100%)

Goals and goal fulfilment

The course syllabus states the course goals in terms of learning outcomes, i.e., knowledge, skills and attitudes to be acquired by the student during the course.

3. To what extent have you reached the following goal?

The student should be able to:
- understand the specific aspects of timber construction and have basic knowledge of wood-based products as a structural material

23 svarande

0-20%»0 0%
20-40%»0 0%
40-60%»2 8%
60-80%»5 21%
80-100%»16 69%

Genomsnitt: 4.6

4. To what extent have you reached the following goal?

The student should be able to
- design structural systems using timber and panel products.

23 svarande

0-20%»0 0%
20-40%»0 0%
40-60%»1 4%
60-80%»10 43%
80-100%»12 52%

Genomsnitt: 4.47

5. To what extent have you reached the following goal?

The student should be able to:
- understand the main points of how to design a stabilising system for multi-storey timber buildings.

23 svarande

0-20%»0 0%
20-40%»0 0%
40-60%»4 17%
60-80%»6 26%
80-100%»13 56%

Genomsnitt: 4.39

- I guess I need more IRL experience» (40-60%)
- I think I have understood it. I found the explanation for the tilting quite difficult to understand. It did not seem as the teachers had fully understood it either. It might be that it is hard to interpret the Eurocode.» (80-100%)

6. To what extent have you reached the following goal?

The student should be able to:
- design complex timber components and simple structural elements.

23 svarande

0-20%»0 0%
20-40%»0 0%
40-60%»2 8%
60-80%»14 60%
80-100%»7 30%

Genomsnitt: 4.21

- Är inte "complex timber components" och "simple structural elements" två skilda saker? Förstår inte riktigt vad det senare syftar på och antar att det förstnämnda syftar på exempelvis limträ och svaret är baserat på det.» (80-100%)

7. To what extent have you reached the following goal?

The student should be able to:
- understand mechanical behaviour and ways to design different connections used in timber construction..

23 svarande

0-20%»0 0%
20-40%»1 4%
40-60%»3 13%
60-80%»13 56%
80-100%»6 26%

Genomsnitt: 4.04

8. To what extent have you reached the following goal?

The student should be able to:
- understand how different properties of floor components affect the dynamic behaviour of wood-based floors.

23 svarande

0-20%»0 0%
20-40%»0 0%
40-60%»3 13%
60-80%»16 69%
80-100%»4 17%

Genomsnitt: 4.04

9. To what extent have you reached the following goal?

After the course the student should be able to:
- understand the strength and weaknesses of timber construction and some specific problems related to timber design.

23 svarande

0-20 %»0 0%
20-40 %»0 0%
40-60 %»2 8%
60-80 %»6 26%
80-100 %»15 65%

Genomsnitt: 4.56

10. How understandable are the course goals?

23 svarande

The goals are difficult to understand»0 0%
The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer»9 39%
The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn»14 60%

Genomsnitt: 2.6

11. Are the goals reasonable considering your background and the number of credits?

23 svarande

No, the goals are set too low»1 4%
Yes, the goals seem reasonable»21 91%
No, the goals are set too high»1 4%

Genomsnitt: 2

- Actually could be higher. Was a lot of repition, but was ok.» (Yes, the goals seem reasonable)

12. Did the examination assess whether you have reached the goals?

The examination consists of design task, project work and final exam.

23 svarande

No, not at all»1 4%
To some extent»9 39%
Yes, definitely»13 56%
I don"t know/have not been examined yet»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 2.52

- I think the degree of difficulty was OK but the questions where pretty hard to understand and the hardest parts where just to get started. It seemed as the exam was full of trick questions that was there just to confuse the students.» (To some extent)

Teaching and course administration

13. To what extent have the lectures been of help for your learning?

22 svarande

Small extent»4 18%
Some extent»8 36%
Large extent»7 31%
Great extent»3 13%

Genomsnitt: 2.4

- It depends on the lectures some were of great help for my learning (mostly the general ones about timber structures in general). The one about connections could have been clearer and the exercises during lectures were not useful.» (Some extent)
- the Tasks did most of the learning.» (Some extent)
- Mr. Crocetti should focus less on formulas that are not important for the understanding of the behaviour of notches.» (Some extent)
- Very good lectures. Open. Informative. Easily digestive.» (Large extent)
- I think that the exercises could have been made a little bit clearer. They were good, but sometimes we were just told what to do and not why. » (Large extent)

14. To what extent has the design task been of help for your learning?

23 svarande

Small extent»0 0%
Some extent»1 4%
Large extent»12 52%
Great extent»10 43%

Genomsnitt: 3.39

- To fast lectures in the design task.» (Large extent)
- Although there should have been more presentation time, which I belive is the time where you verify your knowledge. More meetings between groups and teachers. Perhaps two groups one teacher to save time.» (Large extent)
- But maybe it was to big. It took a lot of time. » (Great extent)

15. To what extent has the FEM project contributed to a better understanding of the dynamic performance of timber floors?

23 svarande

Small extent»2 8%
Some extent»15 65%
Large extent»4 17%
Great extent»2 8%

Genomsnitt: 2.26

- It was a good project but a bit hard to follow in the beginning. It should be clearer what the students actually have to do. And smaller groups placed two computer rooms.» (Some extent)
- I followed the intruduction how to do the project but without or with little thinking.» (Some extent)

16. To what extent has the FEM-project contributed to a better understanding of the practical use of FE-analysis?

23 svarande

Small extent»3 13%
Some extent»12 52%
Large extent»6 26%
Great extent»2 8%

Genomsnitt: 2.3

- Didn"t learne more about the practical use of FE-analysis then what Ive learned from he FEM courses.» (Small extent)
- Ett FEM-projekt känns mycket relevant att ha med i kursen, men i detta fallet fungerade det inte helt felfritt enligt mig. Studiemiljön var inte alls trevlig eftersom alla kursdeltagare var tvungna att tränga in sig i en liten datorsal och samsas fyra personer runt en dator. Dels på grund av dålig luft, dels på grund av att ingen kunde programmet särskilt bra och det blev svårt att ta till sig av genomgångarna i och med att bara en person åt gången kunde kontrollera datorn.» (Some extent)

17. To what extent has the course literature and other course material been of help for your learning?

23 svarande

Small extent»5 21%
Some extent»3 13%
Large extent»14 60%
Great extent»1 4%

Genomsnitt: 2.47

- Didnt use the text book awfully much. It kind of seems like a waste of money so far (if im not going to use it in the future) adn would probably not bought it if I knew this before.» (Small extent)
- In the end, the book was not as useful as I had thought it would be...» (Small extent)
- I am very disappointed that the Mr. Kliger first speak well about a book that costs almost 900 SEK, and then when the book is bought says that he does not agree whit the content of the book, and it"s hardly ever used in the course.» (Small extent)
- First we were told that the book is very useful. But I did not understand why we had to get it. I hardly used it, and since it was expensive I was not very pleased with that.» (Small extent)
- EC were very useful, but I did not use the course book very much.» (Large extent)
- The book is not useful.» (Large extent)

18. How well did the course administration, web page, handouts etc work?

23 svarande

Very badly»0 0%
Rather badly»1 4%
Rather well»12 52%
Very well»10 43%

Genomsnitt: 3.39

- Framförallt var design task pm:et otydligt på många ställen. En del information om krav o dylikt fattades och gavs endast på föreläsningar, vilket resulterade i att den inte nådde alla. En del formuleringar var även så luddiga att det var svårt att förstå eller att de lätt missförstods.» (Rather badly)
- Good information in the handouts on the course homepage.» (Very well)

Study climate

19. How were the opportunities for asking questions and getting help?

23 svarande

Very poor»0 0%
Rather poor»5 21%
Rather good»9 39%
Very good»9 39%
I did not seek help»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 3.17

- It was good when there was time but you should be able to have time during most of the day, every day, as many other institutions. Perhaps more members in the staff.» (Rather poor)
- I would have liked to be able to get more consultation in the last third of the course.» (Rather poor)
- Both Robert and Kristoffer were helpful and if we sent emails they answered directly.» (Very good)

20. How well has cooperation between you and your fellow students worked?

23 svarande

Very poorly»1 4%
Rather poorly»3 13%
Rather well»5 21%
Very well»14 60%
I did not seek cooperation»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 3.39

- My groupmate in the design task took three courses and had selldom time to work with the task. I did about 90% of it. On the other hand I learned more.» (Very poorly)
- I wanted to go slower to take the time to understand, and he wanted only do the task as quick as possible and that"s all (without understand)... really strange» (Rather poorly)
- pretty bad in the FEM assignment (too many as I said before) but OK in the other tasks» (Rather well)
- Even though it"s just cooperation with one other student..» (Very well)

21. How much of your available time for studies in this study period did you spend on this course?

It is assumed that 50% of the time is used for Timber engineering and 50% for another course.

23 svarande

less than 20%»0 0%
20-40%»1 4%
about 50%»8 34%
60-80%»11 47%
more than 80%»3 13%

Genomsnitt: 3.69

- less at the beginning and more at the end» (about 50%)
- The design task in timber took a lot of time, but we also learned a lot.» (60-80%)
- It is a little heavy but I think it need to be this kind otherwise we cannot learn a lot.» (60-80%)
- The design task took a lot of time.» (60-80%)

22. What other course/courses did you follow in this quarter?

- FEM - applicatíons»
- FEM-Application»
- FEM applications and Teknik historia»
- FEM Applications»
- FEM application»
- Leadership and Communication»
- FEM - Application»
- FEM-Applications»
- FEM-application»
- FEM Applications»
- FEM-applications»
- FEM applications»
- building physics and finite element application»
- FEM-applications»
- Building physics»
- Build. Ph»
- Building Physics.»
- building physics»
- FEM-applications»

23. How was the course workload in Timber engineering?

23 svarande

Too low»0 0%
Low»0 0%
Adequate»6 26%
High»14 60%
Too high»3 13%

Genomsnitt: 3.86

- It was high, but at the same time I feel that it was time well spent because I really learned from the design task.» (High)

24. How was the total workload in this stydy period?

23 svarande

Too low»0 0%
Low»0 0%
Adequate»5 21%
High»10 43%
Too high»8 34%

Genomsnitt: 4.13

- The only reason that I didn"t spend more then 50 % off my spare time on the course is that the workload on the other course was high as well. IMPORTANT NOTE! This period is propably the toughest in workload in comparison to all other periods since I started. But it also should be.» (High)
- It is because I choose 3 courses. » (Too high)

Summarizing questions

25. What is your general impression of the course?

23 svarande

Poor»0 0%
Fair»0 0%
Adequate»5 21%
Good»14 60%
Excellent»4 17%

Genomsnitt: 3.95

- We learned a lot, but we had to spend a lot of time.» (Excellent)

26. What is the remaining value of the course in the future

23 svarande

Very small»0 0%
Rather small»0 0%
Rahter high»16 69%
Very high»7 30%

Genomsnitt: 3.3

- especially all the work with ULS and SLS.» (Rahter high)

27. What should definitely be preserved to next year?

- Project work»
- The design task»
- The design task, the memo and the description of the tasks could be much clearer though.»
- The tasks. »
- Design-uppgiften var mycket givande och borde absolut vara kvar, om än med tydligare pm. Även FEM-projektet borde kvarstå, men med några ändringar.»
- exersices and project»
- The design task.»
- The Design task. But maybe somewhat smaller.. The calculation exercises»
- Design Task»
- - Well , the project work was very detailed and took so long time to finish - Spend more time on the practical problems -Taking more considerations when correcting the final exam results .i.e. the task solution is more than a right numbers . »
- Both project works. FEM-project and design task.»

28. What should definitely be changed to next year?

- Better descriptions of the design task, better explinations of certain load and design arrangements..»
- Crocetti´,s lectures were very long. It would be very nice with more breaks in order to still be awake on the lectures. »
- We found really a lot of mistakes in the solutions of exercises on the portal. This makes it very confusing to learn for the exam as it is the only examples we have about one notion sometimes.»
- The lectures could be performed better by the teachers, the lecture notes/powerpoint-slides could be improved.»
- The explanations of the tasks and pretty much every assignment. They are not that well written (no offense) which creates a lot of misunderstandings.»
- Till exempel ändra gruppstorlekarna i FEM-projektet till 2 studenter och använd ytterligare en datorsal vid genomgångar för att ge alla möjligheten att lära sig hur Abaqus fungerar och hänga med på vad som analyseras i programmet.»
- nothing»
- See question 19.»
- The English used in writing was rather poor. Example from exam: "Deference" when meaning "difference". Consistently throughout the Rehearsal Questions and Design Task: Non-clear sentences, non-finished sentences. The scoring in the exam: Reducing 0.5 points without any mark what so ever in the solution indicating where the error or mistake is. Also reducing 0.5 points for the theoretical questions is a bit to much of a reduction, when most of the question is answered properly. »
- Make the project work less detailed ,the final exam should be corrected with more flexibility taking into account the way of understanding for the student and not the way he dealed with numbers .»
- Make the course without a book. »

29. Additional comments

- Some instructions in the design task could be more specific.»
- But its still a quite educational course and im glad i"ve taken it.»
- Some of the lecturers needs to learn how to follow the scheduled times. It"s no point to speak for 70-80 min when the students loose their concentration after 45 min.»

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