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DIEE, KVM071

Status: Avslutad
Öppen för svar: 2009-03-13 - 2009-03-27
Antal svar: 29
Procent av deltagarna som svarat: 72%
Kontaktperson: Lennart Elmeroth»
Utbildningsprogram som genomför enkäten: Chalmers

Your own effort

1. How many hours per week did you spend on this course?

We mean total time, that is, it comprises the time you spent in class and the time you spent on your own work. Try to estimate the average time over the entire study period.

28 svarande

At most 15 hours/week»3 10%
Around 20 hours/week»9 32%
Around 25 hours/week»8 28%
Around 30 hours/week»4 14%
At least 35 hours/week»4 14%

Genomsnitt: 2.89

- the time allocated to the projects was rather big, specially for the last week, since I would have rather use this time for the review. » (Around 25 hours/week)
- Maybe one third of this was improving my Matlab skills.» (Around 30 hours/week)
- some projects demanded a lot of time, you may try to unify them in one big project to be handed secuencially, where each part that is designed is related to a big factory or where all the designed elemnts can work toogether» (At least 35 hours/week)
- Labbarna tar en hel del tid, även att bara skriva rapporten. Det är detta som drar upp tiden. Kurslitteraturen är ju inte så diger att det krävs 100-tals timmar att läsa den. The "labs" take quite some time, even if only to write the report. Course litterature is not that comprehensive. (translation)» (At least 35 hours/week) (den här kommentaren har blivit redigerad i efterhand)

2. How large part of the teaching offered did you attend?

28 svarande

0%»1 3%
25%»1 3%
50%»5 17%
75%»6 21%
100%»15 53%

Genomsnitt: 4.17

- I went to the lectures in the computer rooms, i did not think the "normal" lectures where worth going to.» (50%)
- Generellt bra föreläsningar. Kunde lägga till något föreläsningstillfälle, så att föreläsningarna ej behövde dra över på andra föreläsningar eller lab-tid. Generally good lectures. A few more lectures could have been scheduled in order to avoid intrusion in other lectures and "labs". (translation)» (100%) (den här kommentaren har blivit redigerad i efterhand)

Goals and goal fulfilment

The course syllabus states the course goals in terms of learning outcomes, i.e., knowledge, skills and attitudes to be acquired by the student during the course.

3. How understandable are the course goals?

27 svarande

I have not seen/read the goals»5 18%
The goals are difficult to understand»0 0%
The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer»5 18%
The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn»17 62%

Genomsnitt: 3.25

- I don"t remember the goals at this time» (?)

4. Are the goals reasonable considering your background and the number of credits?

Answer this this question and the succeeding one, only if you do know the course goals.

24 svarande

No, the goals are set too low»0 0%
Yes, the goals seem reasonable»23 95%
No, the goals are set too high»1 4%

Genomsnitt: 2.04

- N/A» (?)

5. Did the examination assess whether you have reached the goals?

24 svarande

No, not at all»0 0%
To some extent»11 45%
Yes, definitely»10 41%
I don"t know/have not been examined yet»3 12%

Genomsnitt: 2.66

- N/A» (?)
- It doesn"t really help to assess my understanding of a concept to work on iterative calculations on an exam.» (To some extent)

Teaching and course administration

6. To what extent has the teaching been of help for your learning?

27 svarande

Small extent»1 3%
Some extent»15 55%
Large extent»10 37%
Great extent»1 3%

Genomsnitt: 2.4

- The lectures where in general very bas. I thought the projects was to many and with bad structure. They should have started on a basic level and been built from that. Not it was a mixture of everything. » (Small extent)
- Mostly the project intros. » (Some extent)

7. To what extent has the the course literature and other material been of help for your learning?

27 svarande

Small extent»2 7%
Some extent»8 29%
Large extent»13 48%
Great extent»4 14%

Genomsnitt: 2.7

- Bad book, and the handouts where of litle help.» (Small extent)
- The litterature about heat exchangers design is a bit "messy". There are lot of information that we have to sort and put on the right order. It is maybe part of the skill, but it didn"t help for the good comprehension. » (Some extent)
- The book needs some serious revising however, plenty of mistakes around.» (Great extent)

8. How well did the course administration, web page, handouts etc work?

28 svarande

Very badly»0 0%
Rather badly»3 10%
Rather well»13 46%
Very well»12 42%

Genomsnitt: 3.32

- hand outs should be put up atleast 2 days before the lecture in question.» (Rather badly)
- To many misses in Course Book. Stuideportalen updated frequently=good» (Rather well)
- Både denna kurs och kursen innan med Simon Harvey är ett föredömme vad det gäller att få ut information (lektionsanteckningar m.m.) i tid. This course and the course with Simon Harvey (IES?) are master examples, how to publish information (lecture notes etc.) in good time. (translation)» (Very well) (den här kommentaren har blivit redigerad i efterhand)

Study climate

9. How were the opportunities for asking questions and getting help?

28 svarande

Very poor»0 0%
Rather poor»1 3%
Rather good»6 21%
Very good»19 67%
I did not seek help»2 7%

Genomsnitt: 3.78

- Thanks to Mathias and Stefan who didn"t lock their offices despite the number of times I went to ask questions!» (Very good)
- Everyone has been readily available and helpful» (Very good)
- Trevligt att ni ställer upp och svarar på frågor då det kör ihop sig. Nice that you are available for answering questions, when things are in a mess. (translation)» (Very good) (den här kommentaren har blivit redigerad i efterhand)

10. How well has cooperation between you and your fellow students worked?

28 svarande

Very poorly»0 0%
Rather poorly»0 0%
Rather well»7 25%
Very well»20 71%
I did not seek cooperation»1 3%

Genomsnitt: 3.78

11. How was the course workload?

27 svarande

Too low»0 0%
Low»0 0%
Adequate»12 44%
High»11 40%
Too high»4 14%

Genomsnitt: 3.7

- It was high, but not too high» (High)
- way too high» (Too high)

12. How was the total workload this study period?

26 svarande

Too low»0 0%
Low»0 0%
Adequate»8 30%
High»12 46%
Too high»6 23%

Genomsnitt: 3.92

- You mean both courses?» (High)
- I only had one more course during this quarter (heat and power), but the total amount of work was a bit too high, so that I didn"t get well prepared to the examinations. » (Too high)
- Många projekt resp stort projekt i andra kursen gör att arbetsbelastningen blir mkt hög, i synnerhet i slutet av perioden då allt kör ihop sig och man samtidigt måste tentaplugga. Many projects in this course and one big project in the other course (H&P?), make the the work load very high, especially at the end of the quarter. (translation)» (Too high) (den här kommentaren har blivit redigerad i efterhand)

Summarizing questions

13. What is your general impression of the course?

28 svarande

Poor»1 3%
Fair»2 7%
Adequate»5 17%
Good»16 57%
Excellent»4 14%

Genomsnitt: 3.71

- Bad lectures, bad projects with bad structure and with a very variating difficult level. » (Poor)
- You get knowledge that you feel you really can use in future engineering jobs» (Good)
- Bra med verklighetsrelaterade grejer. Känns som man får med sig kunskap man faktiskt kan ha nytta av då man kommer ut. Bra att man får känna på lite kommersiella program! Good with reallity-related things. It seems that you learn useful stuff for the profession. Good to get to know commercial soft-ware. (translation)» (Good) (den här kommentaren har blivit redigerad i efterhand)
- Great projects, a fine way to learn.» (Excellent)

14. What should definitely be preserved to next year?

- I must say that the concept with projects on every major block in the course is good but skip proj no 5, so that the gas turbine project does not come so close to the examination week»
- The projects are a really good help for the final exams»
- the project work is rather good to understand clearly the course contain.»
- projects »
- Mesto field visit»
- The projects are essential to the comprehension of the course.»
- The projects except for the Rya lab»
- Everything except the bit about ozone. Spending so much time on something we learned in high school felt irrelevant.»
- The project, they are very good for understanding.»
- The projects are good and you learn a lot from them.»
- The Projects»
- The projects, but maybe shorter ones, and done in the good order!!»
- help from project supervisors, mathias, stefan...»
- The project work and trip to Rya should be preserved.»
- suitable program for assignments»
- better time for assignments»
- The projects.»
- Labbarna, men plocka gärna bort en, och ha inte labbar så sent på perioden. Programvarorna, bra att få känna på "verkliga" program och arbeta med dem. "Labs", but one less, and not so late in the quarter. Soft-ware, good to get to know "real" programs and to work with them. (translation)» (den här kommentaren har blivit redigerad i efterhand)

15. What should definitely be changed to next year?

- It felt like we did all the projects at the same time, it would be better to do one project at a time.»
- The turbo compressor part. More information in the compendium, like why choise a 6 stage etc. »
- The projects are really time consuming so I think it would be fair to have some points for the exam by doing well these projects.»
- Some chapter in the compendium was not really good (chapter on the plate heat exchanger) because extract from text in wrong order or there are some missing parts...»
- The project load could be reduced if the projects are merged together»
- The projects. I known its been the same for years but they should have started on a more basic level and then be getting harder and harder. More Aspen and less Mathlab.»
- One project less (or less heavy) The study visit at Metso was not useful, but the one to Rya was good.»
- Answers to the old exams.»
- The bunching up of projects near the end of the period. Possibly give credits for the projects so that the (by hand) written exam doesn"t influence as much (compared to the actual knowledge that was gained through programming).»
- More time should be scheduled for project 1, the boiler.»
- I think that some steps in the projects were a bit unnecessary and made them more time consuming.»
- The wrong order of the projects, and the fact that they are too long to be done in 4 hours.»
- projects are way too long they end up being confusing, it would be better with shorter problems with hand-made calculations»
- Better prepared PM for project (especielly nr1) so that you can work on your own with every data needed.»
- Two things should change: 1) More credit for projects should be given, and less for exam. 2) The progression of learning about the design methods by lecture, and then project exercise should be supplemented by a review and overview of the method giving instruction about strategy and "tricks" to short cut the design for instance on the exam. It was only after the struggle of the exam did I realize the potential for understanding strategies for design that can short circuit the iteration process. This wasn"t needed for the project work, but was needed to score highly on the exam. I think it is useful to not give out these ideas at first, but after the project work is completed, this would really advance the understanding and skill level of the students.»
- time of assignments.those are very compressed near the exam.»
- assignments near the exam week»
- The Rya lab. Calculations could have been done at Chalmers instead. The guide was not preperred to speek english, which was sad, because he had a great knowledge that he could not share! Mabye some bonus included in the exam for the projects?!»
- Plocka bort en labb, så att det inte blir så mkt att göra sista veckan! Remove one "lab". Less to do in the last week. (translation)» (den här kommentaren har blivit redigerad i efterhand)
- Borde ge ut svaren till exempeltentorna, känns meningslöst att räkna tentor om man inte vet att man gjort rätt. Answers should be available for the sample exams. Meaningless to solve examinations problems, if you don"t know if you have done right. (translation)» (den här kommentaren har blivit redigerad i efterhand)

16. Additional comments

- The PhD students Mattias, Stefan Elin are the best ones ever when it comes to help and put up with alot of time »
- The projects schedule was a bit messy. I think it would be better if the schedule was more "linear" like in the IES course.»
- I liked how the projects seemed realistic, in that most details seemed as if we really were responsible for designing the particular equipment. Having detailed feedback is also very helpful.»
- Very good TAs during project time!»

Your own effort

17. How many hours per week did you spend on this course?

We mean total time, that is, it comprises the time you spent in class and the time you spent on your own work. Try to estimate the average time over the entire study period.

15 svarande

At most 15 hours/week»2 13%
Around 20 hours/week»6 40%
Around 25 hours/week»4 26%
Around 30 hours/week»1 6%
At least 35 hours/week»2 13%

Genomsnitt: 2.66

- This question has allready been asked above» (Around 25 hours/week)

18. How large part of the teaching offered did you attend?

12 svarande

0%»1 8%
25%»1 8%
50%»1 8%
75%»3 25%
100%»6 50%

Genomsnitt: 4

- This question has allready been asked above» (100%)

Goals and goal fulfilment

The course syllabus states the course goals in terms of learning outcomes, i.e., knowledge, skills and attitudes to be acquired by the student during the course.

19. How understandable are the course goals?

6 svarande

I have not seen/read the goals»2 33%
The goals are difficult to understand»0 0%
The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer»1 16%
The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn»3 50%

Genomsnitt: 2.83

- This question has allready been asked above» (?)
- N/A» (?)

20. Are the goals reasonable considering your background and the number of credits?

Answer this this question and the succeeding one, only if you do know the course goals.

4 svarande

No, the goals are set too low»0 0%
Yes, the goals seem reasonable»4 100%
No, the goals are set too high»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 2

- This question has allready been asked above» (?)
- N/A» (?)

21. Did the examination assess whether you have reached the goals?

4 svarande

No, not at all»0 0%
To some extent»2 50%
Yes, definitely»2 50%
I don"t know/have not been examined yet»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 2.5

- This question has allready been asked above» (?)
- N/A» (?)

22. Do you consider that you had sufficient knowledge to read this course

8 svarande

Yes, absolutely»7 87%
In part but I struggled in places»1 12%
No»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.12

- This question has allready been asked above» (?)

Teaching and course administration

23. To what extent has the teaching been of help for your learning?

6 svarande

Small extent»1 16%
Some extent»3 50%
Large extent»1 16%
Great extent»1 16%

Genomsnitt: 2.33

- This question has allready been asked above» (?)
- mostly the project work and also tacking with the teacher about project...» (Some extent)

24. To what extent has the the course literature and other material been of help for your learning?

6 svarande

Small extent»1 16%
Some extent»0 0%
Large extent»3 50%
Great extent»2 33%

Genomsnitt: 3

- This question has allready been asked above» (?)

25. How well did the course administration, web page, handouts etc work?

6 svarande

Very badly»0 0%
Rather badly»1 16%
Rather well»3 50%
Very well»2 33%

Genomsnitt: 3.16

- This question has allready been asked above» (?)

Study climate

26. How were the opportunities for asking questions and getting help?

6 svarande

Very poor»0 0%
Rather poor»0 0%
Rather good»2 33%
Very good»3 50%
I did not seek help»1 16%

Genomsnitt: 3.83

- This question has allready been asked above» (?)

27. How well has cooperation between you and your fellow students worked?

7 svarande

Very poorly»0 0%
Rather poorly»0 0%
Rather well»2 28%
Very well»5 71%
I did not seek cooperation»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 3.71

- This question has allready been asked above» (?)

28. How was the course workload?

7 svarande

Too low»0 0%
Low»0 0%
Adequate»5 71%
High»1 14%
Too high»1 14%

Genomsnitt: 3.42

- This question has allready been asked above» (?)

29. How was the total workload this study period?

7 svarande

Too low»0 0%
Low»0 0%
Adequate»5 71%
High»2 28%
Too high»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 3.28

- This question has allready been asked above» (?)

Teaching methods

30. Did you find Powerpoint presentations to be helpful?

22 svarande

Small extent»2 9%
Some extent»16 72%
Significant extent»4 18%

Genomsnitt: 2.09

31. Do you agree that project work is a good teaching method in this course?

22 svarande

Small extent»1 4%
Some extent»3 13%
Significant extent»18 81%

Genomsnitt: 2.77

- smaller projects! problems like exams» (Some extent)
- That"s the aim of this course!» (Significant extent)

32. What did you think of the Study visit to Metso Power

21 svarande

Very interesting»9 42%
Good but could be improved»7 33%
Less good, questionable»3 14%
Waste of time»2 9%

Genomsnitt: 1.9

- I missed it...» (?)
- Dock inte så kul när beläggningen är så låg att det inte finns mkt att se ute i verkstaden. Bättre då att fokusera på det som gjordes på kontoret.» (Very interesting)
- It was infact nice that it was down since we could have a good look without going deaf.» (Very interesting)
- The workshop was closed when we were there. It would be funnier if it would have been open.» (Good but could be improved)
- The part when we walk around was quite unnecessary. » (Less good, questionable)

Teaching staff

33. Please rate Lennart Elmeroth"s lectures

23 svarande

Excellent»1 4%
Good»10 43%
Moderate»10 43%
Poor»2 8%

Genomsnitt: 2.56

- Very good content, some time is the tempo too slow» (Good)
- After project work is handed in, review strategies and "tricks of the trade". This would really help.» (Good)
- To finish in time and to manage to go through all slides is a good thing» (Moderate)
- Kanske kunde fokusera mer på det viktigaste och utelämna detaljer. Might focus more on the important stuff and omit details (translation)» (Moderate) (den här kommentaren har blivit redigerad i efterhand)
- Slow» (Poor)

34. Please rate Mathias Gourdon as exercise tutor

23 svarande

Excellent»13 56%
Good»8 34%
Moderate»2 8%
Poor»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.52

- Very easy to get help and is he allways possible to reach if we have any questions. He give good feed back on our work» (Excellent)
- Very helpful and devoted.» (Good)

35. Please rate Stefan Heyne as exercise tutor

23 svarande

Excellent»15 65%
Good»8 34%
Moderate»0 0%
Poor»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.34

- One of the best tutors ever. He explains very well and he put up with alot of time for students.He give good feed back on our work» (Excellent)
- Very helpful and devoted.» (Excellent)

36. Please rate Lennart Elmeroth as exercise tutor

22 svarande

Excellent»4 18%
Good»13 59%
Moderate»4 18%
Poor»1 4%

Genomsnitt: 2.09

- N/A» (?)
- Knows very much and give good help» (Excellent)
- Some of the answers contain a bit too much details...» (Good)

37. Please rate Elin Svensson as Industrial Laboratory tutor

22 svarande

Excellent»5 22%
Good»15 68%
Moderate»2 9%
Poor»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.86

- We did not have this teacher as industrial laboratory tutor i think...» (?)
- Very good, she gives good feed back» (Excellent)

Summarizing questions

38. What is your general impression of the course?

16 svarande

Poor»1 6%
Fair»0 0%
Adequate»2 12%
Good»9 56%
Excellent»4 25%

Genomsnitt: 3.93

- It has to bad structure in both projects and lectures. The lectures are too long with to much information, 4 hours lectures is to much. Th course literature are not good» (Poor)
- One of my favourite courses» (Excellent)

39. What should definitely be preserved to next year?

- Mets»
- ALready answered this»

40. What should definitely be changed to next year?

- Project work»
- Already answered this»

41. Additional comments

- Känns värdelöst att svara då man hört från tidigare års elever att inget ändras ändå.»

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