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Kursutvärdering - Structural systems, VBB122

Status: Avslutad
Öppen för svar: 2007-10-30 - 2008-01-21
Antal svar: 41
Procent av deltagarna som svarat: 69%
Kontaktperson: Björn Engström»

Your own effort

1. How many hours per week did you spend on this course?

We mean total time, that is, it comprises the time you spent in class and the time you spent on your own work. Try to estimate the average time over the entire study period.

40 svarande

At most 15 hours/week»1 2%
Around 20 hours/week»19 47%
Around 25 hours/week»13 32%
Around 30 hours/week»6 15%
At least 35 hours/week»1 2%

Genomsnitt: 2.67

- Between 25 and 30h/week» (Around 25 hours/week)
- Normal time consuming course. Some times much more then 25hour/week som times less.» (Around 25 hours/week)

2. How large part of the teaching offered did you attend?

40 svarande

0%»0 0%
25%»1 2%
50%»1 2%
75%»20 50%
100%»18 45%

Genomsnitt: 4.37

- 75 -90%» (75%)
- It was very good to have so many guest lecturers, each on an expert in their area!» (75%)
- probably 85% or more» (75%)
- more than 75% but not quite 100%» (100%)
- In general, the lectures are really interesting» (100%)
- Very good lectures and lecturers » (100%)

Goals and goal fulfilment

The course syllabus states the course goals in terms of learning outcomes.

3. To what extent have you reached the following goal?

After completion of the course the student should be able to
- describe the realisation process of buildings concerning conceptualisation, design, construction, and the operation period including inspection, maintenance, structural assessment, repair, strengthening and demolishing.

40 svarande

0-20%»0 0%
20-40%»1 2%
40-60%»4 10%
60-80%»23 57%
80-100%»12 30%

Genomsnitt: 4.15

4. To what extent have you reached the following goal?

After completion of the course the student should be able to
- describe typical requirements on buildings with regard to needed safety, performance, durability and efficient use of resources.

40 svarande

0-20%»0 0%
20-40%»0 0%
40-60%»6 15%
60-80%»21 52%
80-100%»13 32%

Genomsnitt: 4.17

5. To what extent have you reached the follwing goal?

After compeltion of the course the student should be able to
- describe how typical buildings are composed of structural systems and systems for climate protection and in-door comfort

40 svarande

0-20%»0 0%
20-40%»3 7%
40-60%»5 12%
60-80%»21 52%
80-100%»11 27%

Genomsnitt: 4

6. To what extent have you reached the following goal?

After completion of the course the student should be able to
- use a systematic approach to solve open problems in conceptual design, including analysis of risks and uncertainties and service life considerations

40 svarande

0-20%»0 0%
20-40%»1 2%
40-60%»7 17%
60-80%»17 42%
80-100%»15 37%

Genomsnitt: 4.15

7. To what extent have you reached the following goal?

After completion of the course the student should be able to
- describe the mechanical behaviour of typical structural systems for buidlings concerning actions, load transfer and stabilisation, and need for movements

40 svarande

0-20%»0 0%
20-40%»0 0%
40-60%»3 7%
60-80%»21 52%
80-100%»16 40%

Genomsnitt: 4.32

- I am not so good at this part!» (40-60%)
- Sometimes very hard and complex structures, in normal case 100%» (60-80%)

8. To what extent have you reached the follwing goal?

After compeltion of the course the student should be able to perform preliminary design and preliminary sizing of structural systems

40 svarande

0-20%»0 0%
20-40%»0 0%
40-60%»9 22%
60-80%»18 45%
80-100%»13 32%

Genomsnitt: 4.1

9. How understandable are the course goals?

40 svarande

The goals are difficult to understand»0 0%
The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer»9 22%
The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn»31 77%

Genomsnitt: 2.77

10. Are the goals reasonable considering your background and the number of credits?

Answer this this question and the succeeding one, only if you do know the course goals.

39 svarande

No, the goals are set too low»0 0%
Yes, the goals seem reasonable»38 97%
No, the goals are set too high»1 2%

Genomsnitt: 2.02

- The course is very wide and perhaps the knowledge of the different parts in the course will not be so deep.» (Yes, the goals seem reasonable)
- I come from another university for me was hard follow the lectures sometimes. » (No, the goals are set too high)

11. Did the examination (project work including the hand-in and seminar) assess whether you have reached the goals?

40 svarande

No, not at all»0 0%
To some extent»20 50%
Yes, definitely»18 45%
I don"t know/have not been examined yet»2 5%

Genomsnitt: 2.55

- I think the learning process would be better if the hand-in hade been with a report aswell.» (To some extent)
- The time for carrying out the project compared to the goals that should be met is somehow insufficient. I think it is better that supervision being hold by a team of university lecturers and individuals from industry.» (To some extent)
- The project took very much time ==> little time to look at the lecture notes and learn about more systems and detatils than those we we"re looking at.» (To some extent)
- The examination does show my knowledge i the subject but the project work did not. Since we were five students with different views for how to handle things, the students own opinion for what was important and what was not for the work couldn"t be distinguished. In our group this problem led to many arguments.» (To some extent)
- I was really happy with the project work. I learned a lot from that. » (Yes, definitely)
- I hope so» (I don"t know/have not been examined yet)

Teaching and course administration

12. To what extent has the teaching been of help for your learning?

40 svarande

Small extent»0 0%
Some extent»7 17%
Large extent»29 72%
Great extent»4 10%

Genomsnitt: 2.92

- It´,s very hard to stay awake when only looking at "boring" powerpoint slides.. please combine powerpoint with other education methods. » (Some extent)
- The lectures we"re very good in giving an overview and I would have preferred the project to be smaller (or more guidance in how to limit the project) in benefit of reading the lecture notes through at least once after the lecture.» (Large extent)

13. To what extent has the contact with your external supervisor been of help for your learing?

40 svarande

Small extent»3 7%
Some extent»16 40%
Large extent»16 40%
Great extent»5 12%

Genomsnitt: 2.57

- He did´,nt want to answer questions, because he wanted us to seek for them ourself (?)» (Small extent)
- The first times, they had not really read through our material. So it was more like time for questions, but that was a lot of help!» (Some extent)
- She was good for us Swedish students but spook to little English to be of good help for the exchange students. » (Large extent)

14. To what extent has the the course material and links on the course home page been of help for your learning?

40 svarande

Small extent»5 12%
Some extent»12 30%
Large extent»21 52%
Great extent»2 5%

Genomsnitt: 2.5

- It was very few calculation examples, which made it hard to get a fully knowledge of that area. » (Some extent)

15. How well did the course administration, web page, handouts etc work?

40 svarande

Very badly»0 0%
Rather badly»0 0%
Rather well»14 35%
Very well»26 65%

Genomsnitt: 3.65

- Handouts were not always avaleble before the lesson, thats not good» (Rather well)
- but I would prefer to get the slides and lecture notes at least 2 days earlier!» (Very well)
- The only comment is that it gets a lot of papers to keep in order, I miss an index to know where to look. At least I will miss it in a couple of years when I don"t remember when we spoke about what. I will keep the notes since they were really good.» (Very well)

Study climate

16. How were the opportunities for asking questions and getting help from your external supervisor?

40 svarande

Very poor»0 0%
Rather poor»3 7%
Rather good»15 37%
Very good»21 52%
I did not seek help»1 2%

Genomsnitt: 3.5

17. How were the opportunities for asking questions and getting help from the teachers?

40 svarande

Very poor»0 0%
Rather poor»2 5%
Rather good»14 35%
Very good»18 45%
I did not seek help»6 15%

Genomsnitt: 3.7

- Missed you the last week before hand in. It seemes like many techers from your department were away.» (Rather good)
- It felt like it was more up to us to seek information. That doesn"t have to be bad...» (Rather good)

18. How well has cooperation between you and your fellow students worked in the project team?

40 svarande

Very poorly»1 2%
Rather poorly»5 12%
Rather well»18 45%
Very well»16 40%

Genomsnitt: 3.22

- 30% of the group did´,nt work much at all.. ..and they did´,nt want to cooperate either..» (Very poorly)
- See comment on 11!» (Rather poorly)
- The ambition level seemed to be very different for the students involved n my group.» (Rather well)
- We were 6 people and 4 of us worked very well together, 1 had som problems speaking both english and swedish and the last one just did"t like schoolwork I guess» (Very well)
- Except for the spanish guy.» (Very well)

19. How much of your available time for studies in this study period did you spend on this course?

It is assumed that 50% of the time is used for Structural systems and 50% for Material performance

40 svarande

less than 20%»0 0%
20-40%»4 10%
about 50%»9 22%
60-80%»26 65%
more than 80%»1 2%

Genomsnitt: 3.6

- 35-40%» (20-40%)
- Not sure I understood the question but I defenetly spent more time on this course than on MP» (60-80%)
- The project work did take lot of time compared to what we had to do in Material Performance.» (60-80%)
- but i spent almost asmuch time on the Material Performance so I was totally exhausted when we had the exam and just wanted to get home.» (60-80%)
- As an international student I didn"t take part in the MP course. But I followed an english course instead.» (60-80%)

20. How was the course workload?

40 svarande

Too low»0 0%
Low»3 7%
Adequate»30 75%
High»6 15%
Too high»1 2%

Genomsnitt: 3.12

- The MP-part of the projekt was mabye a bit to big, and also kept adding up after every other lecture when they had new ideas of what could be included» (Adequate)
- Adequate cus the Material performance course took quite much time!» (Adequate)
- Aqeduate in the beginning. but wery high in the last 2 weeks» (High)
- But it still connected with our group being in my opininon too focus on this course and to get a really good result. More about reasonable limitations would have been good.» (Too high)

21. How was the total workload this study period?

40 svarande

Too low»0 0%
Low»4 10%
Adequate»27 67%
High»8 20%
Too high»1 2%

Genomsnitt: 3.15

- hard to study over 1000slides in MP» (Adequate)
- To high towards the end...» (Adequate)
- (I took only one course, but started with 2)» (Adequate)
- But not due to the content of the courses.» (Too high)

22. To what extent were there connections between the two courses in this study period?

37 svarande

Very small extent»7 18%
Rather small extent»20 54%
Rather high extent»9 24%
Very high extent»1 2%

Genomsnitt: 2.1

- I didn"t take the other course» (?)
- Don`t know I only follow this course» (?)
- I didn"t follow the MP course» (?)
- It felt like the material performance part had a very low activity the first weeks and more in the end, which made it hard to use any knowledge learnt from the material performance course in the project.» (Rather small extent)
- The Material Performance assignment was give much too late.» (Rather small extent)
- A little unclear about the connections.. Maybe make the assignments that are connected between courses a bit clearer from the start.» (Rather small extent)
- I don"t need the courses to be more connected than they were.» (Rather small extent)

Summarizing questions

23. What is your general impression of the course?

40 svarande

Poor»0 0%
Fair»0 0%
Adequate»4 10%
Good»28 70%
Excellent»8 20%

Genomsnitt: 4.1

- Getting an overall overview» (Good)
- It felt like a really good course to start a master program with in order to get an over view!» (Good)
- I would say very good.» (Good)
- Except there were not enough time for the "load"-test, at least another hour is needed. Frustrating when you know you can solve the problem but don"t have enough time» (Excellent)

24. What is the remaining value of the course in the future?

39 svarande

Very small»0 0%
Rather small»3 7%
Rather high»31 79%
Very high»5 12%

Genomsnitt: 3.05

- this groupwork made me only learn on some specific parts. So I did´,nt learned so much about the other parts, like calculations and materials..» (Rather small)
- usefull knowledge from stabilisation and conceptional design» (Rather high)
- Although I will not be doing structuralkengineering, it was very useful to see how a project develops.» (Rather high)
- It was very helpful to envision in rough how to build and get general concept of what the most important to have in consideration» (Rather high)
- The time given for the examination was way to short. I know that I could have answered the last question if more time had been available.» (Rather high)
- This course worked as an eye opening for me. It was the first time in my studies that I"ve had to think of a building as a whole unit and see how the structural system works. Before I had only dealt with very detailed and precisely defined tasks. The project made me think of possible problems and solutions that I had never considered before. The knowledge I gained is definitely going to help me a lot in the future.» (Very high)
- When I have read the lecture notes again» (Very high)

25. What should definitely be preserved to next year?

- To have supervisors from the "real" world. It´,s good to get their perspective.»
- the project work»
- projekt work»
- Lectures, trips around the city with practical examples, engineers from companies giving some lectures.»
- The whole concept of this course is great and should be kept onward. The presentation of the project was a very good practice.»
- the project work»
- It is good to have groupwork so early in the program, the lectures were all good»
- The interaction with people from industry, especially with the group work and the external supervisors and the presentation jury. This is why I chose the course and I thought it was excellent. Study trips were also great!»
- the project is a very good experience»
- The project work»
- The keeping of the course content into small blocks»
- The Project work, and the load calculations. The study trips were also a good way to bring the reality to the classroom»
- The supervisor function. Good to get connections with "real life"»
- The structure and the contents in the lectures.»
- Att jobba med projekt i grupparbete.»
- The project should be preserved»
- seminar, project work»

26. What should definitely be changed to next year?

- A better connection between the 2 courses.»
- nothing»
- more about how the different types of structural systems behave in a building. Focus more on the structural system.»
- Longer time for the load-test»
- Be free to decide in wich workgroup do you want to work»
- Regarding the grading system in this course, I don"t find it logical to have the grade of the project a dominating part of the final grade. Even if the work load of the project is maybe around 60% of the total work load the grade should weight less. In projects like this people make a very different effort and spend different time on it, but still everyone have the same grade. From what I"ve heard, there was too large group of students in this course that were able to float on others work and avoid doing anything by themselves. »
- Smaller groups or no groups. Harder control: that every member of the group must cooperate and be present when working with the project.»
- Have the rules for the project should be more clear, Should we be students presenting a study project or should we role-play as engineers presenting our proposal. It is important to know witch to know how to act and present the project. »
- More time or less extensive questions on the dugga.»
- I think the course was very complet and well carry»
- The lecture on HVAC need pehaps to be improved to get a better connection with rest of the topics. »
- the size of the project»
- More Connections to Material Performance, in some exercise not necessarily in the project work»
- There were some lectures that didn"t seem to try to provide us with knowledge for the design task but that were presenting the different fields of civil engineering just as if the course should help the students to choose their courses in the rest of the master program. So, some lectures should maybe be more related to the design task.»
- To be able to, in some way, choose one or two students which you like to work with in the project.»
- Att ha kurslitteratur och inte bara föerläsningsanteckningar som läromedel.»
- Maybe more feedback from teachers after first hand-in!»
- Try to have more links between Material Performance and Structural Systems»
- the dugga was only on loads and therefore didn"t necessarily helped those who worked more in the project.»
- Do a small report as well as the power point presentation. »

27. Additional comments

- to similar with the bachelor thesis (for swedish students with construction project). The only difference is that we have a house instead of a bridge.»
- well structured course»
- In general i enjoy really much the course and i leran a lot in lectures and trips as well as doing the project.»
- Maybe some more information on actual construction processes?»
- Because of my past experience in the industry, I was interested in this course and found it practical and informative. Specially, the study trips were very educative»
- It would be perfect if the lecture notes would be put on the course homepage the evening before each lecture. I do realize that it can sometimes be difficult, but nobody is perfect »
- Good and intresting course!»

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