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Advanced Computer Aided Design evaluation, PPU080

Your own effort

1. How many hours per week did you spend on this course?

55 svarande

At most 15 hours/week»		9		16%
Around 20 hours/week»		18		32%
Around 25 hours/week»		17		30%
Around 30 hours/week»		8		14%
At least 35 hours/week»		3		5%

Genomsnitt: 2.6

- This course was rather time consuming.» (Around 25 hours/week)
- Was doing the project work by my self.» (Around 30 hours/week)
- Much more than 35 because it was very fun and easy to learn Catia. Which made it easy to use from the start. The RD&T program was much harder to get a grip on and it feels like it gets a little bit squeezed into the course. Of course it was fun to learn and use aswell, and it is a realy powerfull and interesting tool. But in my opinion it could be a 7.5 p course by its own. And that would be much nicer because then you realy get to learn the program. I would definately take a 7.5 p course in RD&T if it was offered.» (At least 35 hours/week)

2. How large part of the teaching offered did you attend?

55 svarande

0%»		0		0%
25%»		9		16%
50%»		12		21%
75%»		18		32%
100%»		16		29%

Genomsnitt: 3.74

- the lectures where ineffective and influenced by bad planning» (25%)
- The lectures are irrelevant for the skills needed in CATIA and are also badly performed.» (25%)
- Only read from the slides. No adding value» (25%)
- I had some Catia experience already» (25%)
- Due to other course conflicting in the schedule» (25%)
- kursen krockade med en annan så jag kunde inte gå på alla föreläsningarna.» (25%)
- Attended most lectures, but only the first exercise.» (50%)
- Nothing was learned from the lectures that could be read in the pdf:s.» (50%)
- Did not need the exercises at the end of the term» (75%)
- Very good with time for exercises in the computer rooms.» (75%)
- The other course I took this quarter often overlaped with this course. Otherwise, I would have attended 100%.» (75%)
- Some of them didn"t feel important so I left half way through.» (100%)
- i only missed one half of a lecture» (100%)

Goals and goal fulfilment

3. How understandable are the course goals?

I have not seen/read the goals»		9		16%
The goals are difficult to understand»		5		9%
The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer»		21		38%
The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn»		20		36%

Genomsnitt: 2.94

- the extra tasks were very diffuse. Didnt knwo how much there were supposed to be done on each task.» (The goals are difficult to understand)
- It was very unclear at the beginning (before the course started) what the course was all about. It was not mentioned anywhere that it was 80% Catia modelling.» (The goals are difficult to understand)

4. Are the goals reasonable considering your background and the number of credits?

48 svarande

No, the goals are set too low»		5		10%
Yes, the goals seem reasonable»		42		87%
No, the goals are set too high»		1		2%

Genomsnitt: 1.91

- But the RD&T part of the course was rushed and I didn"t feel that I learned that part at all as thorough as Catia. That is acheiving the RD&T golas was more focused on just doing that rather than learning the program.» (Yes, the goals seem reasonable)
- But I guess they were reasonable» (Yes, the goals seem reasonable)

5. Did the examination assess whether you have reached the goals?

No, not at all»		7		14%
To some extent»		31		62%
Yes, definitely»		9		18%
I don"t know/have not been examined yet»		3		6%

Genomsnitt: 2.16

- The examination has nothing to do with being able to cad and is not relevant in this type of course. It feels like it"s there just because there should be an exam.» (No, not at all)
- A written exam is definitively redundant! The project works is the best way of examination» (To some extent)
- Nothing that we did in project could be linked to the examination.» (To some extent)
- The main part was to understand and handle Catia. If that was not a goal i have totally misunderstand the goals.» (To some extent)
- I´,m not sure how my understanding of CATIA whould be improved by the lectures given.» (To some extent)
- The questions/answers were mostly "repeat after me".» (To some extent)
- There were some really weird questions on the exam... collision and z-buffer?» (I don"t know/have not been examined yet)

6. Was the setup of the project work good for learning CAD and CAT systems?

55 svarande

No, not at all»		1		1%
To some extent»		4		7%
Adequate»		13		23%
Yes»		19		34%
Yes, definitely»		18		32%

Genomsnitt: 3.89

- The information should have been clearer. Much time was spent on figuring out which level the details should be and many things had to be done again.» (To some extent)
- Good with a project, but too little guidance, goals, requirements for how the work should be performed by the students and valued by the teachers.» (To some extent)
- Because the project was done in pairs it was common that the different parts of the excavator were divided between the two and hence some important tools such as parameterisation was only learned by one individual. I am not saying the project should not be done in pairs, but that perhaps two parts should include parameterisation.» (To some extent)
- Gjorde ju bara samma sak många gånger. Alldeles för många som gjorde en riktigt ful/enkel kropp och sedan bara tjatade sig til extrapoängen...» (To some extent)
- The idea of the project work is good but the information on how to carry it out is spread out over at least three different sources. The definition of what extra tasks that will be accepted is also very vague.» (Adequate)
- To work in pairs are very good for problem solving. The excavator was a reasonable project to model, and had a nice variety with different parts. The setup for extra points didn"t really promote learning since it many times was easier to skim through many modules than learn them thouroughly. You didn"t benefit to the grade to look deeper into some things. Also it was more effective to divide work and work one by one, which lead to that one in the pairs didn"t get any experience of Geometry Assurance, Parametrization etc. There could have been more guidance on how to approach a CAD project, it was clear what you should do but sometimes unclear how to approach it and get it all together.» (Adequate)
- It was a fun project» (Yes)
- But also here, there was a lack of what level the exavater´,s parts should be at.A lot of the time in the beginning was mostly examine how an exavator is constructed. » (Yes)
- I think the project was relly inspiering. The description of RDnt was also very good, I understood the program and the result good in the end. The interaction between the excavator and RDnT was good. Didn"t do so manny extra tasks, wasnt that motivated to do that. That was however influenced by a poor colaboration in my group.» (Yes)
- project is the one which needs to be continued in future for the course as we learn more from the project in CAD and CAT tools» (Yes, definitely)
- Very good project. I"ve learned a lot» (Yes, definitely)
- Good that extrapoints were given for extra modules instead as it were last year» (Yes, definitely)

Teaching and course administration

7. To what extent has the teaching been of help for your learning?

Small extent»		19		34%
Some extent»		27		49%
Large extent»		9		16%
Great extent»		0		0%

Genomsnitt: 1.81

- Change the teacher. The lectures were a joke.» (Small extent)
- None extent!!» (Small extent)
- The people teaching has to be more involved, not just standing in front of the class reading word by word from the slides.» (Small extent)
- I skipped all lectures and read the PDF:s. Had Catia basic knowledge from the beginning.» (Small extent)
- Alldeles för många slides och bara rabbling av vad som stod på dem. Kunde ju inget egentligen! En anledning att salen bara var halvfull. De flesta gick inte dit..» (Small extent)
- Had some difficulties in the english language.» (Some extent)
- Most of the learning was through the online help.» (Some extent)
- A large part of the theoretical information for the exam is not really» (Some extent)

8. To what extent has the course literature and other material been of help for your learning?

Small extent»		15		27%
Some extent»		20		36%
Large extent»		17		30%
Great extent»		3		5%

Genomsnitt: 2.14

- The Catia book was good.» (Small extent)
- Expensive book that is only used during the first 2 weeks and is only useful to understand the basic. A more advanced book could is needed.» (Small extent)
- Didn"t even open the course book, nor did the tasks in it» (Small extent)
- using the CAT tools especially RD&T was used mostly from literature» (Some extent)
- The CATIA book exercises were good.» (Large extent)
- The Catia book with examples was good. Sometimes the explanations feel a little drawn out and redundant. But its understandable that it is hard to find relevant literature. The exercises for RD&T were good.» (Large extent)
- The lecture slides was my only knowledge source to pass the exam.» (Great extent)
- The exercises was good for my learning» (Great extent)

9. How well did the course administration, web page, handouts etc work?

Very badly»		1		1%
Rather badly»		7		12%
Rather well»		30		55%
Very well»		16		29%

Genomsnitt: 3.12

- Smarteam funka inte. Lägga ut Cathia filen på portalen istället för CD» (Rather badly)
- smartTeam is a joke.» (Rather badly)
- SMARTeam didnt work and it took too long time to get the different parts in the project graded.» (Rather badly)
- What happened to "smart team"?» (Rather badly)
- Information was difficult to get a hold of, because vital information was not collected into one document. You would have to look at many documents to get the entire information e.g. infortmaion vital to the project. Hence it was difficult to know if you actually did the right thing in the project, becuase maybe you would have missed something. And the instructions for the project were bad. Like the parameterisation of the wheel, how the wheel was to be parameterised was not at all mentioned. more than just me thought that the ENTIRE wheel was to be parameterised. This is an important piece of info but this did not come across to the students. There were more examples like this but i will not go through them. » (Rather badly)

Study climate

10. How were the opportunities for asking questions and getting help?

Very poor»		1		1%
Rather poor»		6		10%
Rather good»		27		49%
Very good»		20		36%
I did not seek help»		1		1%

Genomsnitt: 3.25

- För få bokade timmar i datorsalarna. Kunde få vänta i två timmar och sedan gå utan att ha fått hjälp!» (Rather poor)
- Too few teachers/too many students» (Rather good)
- In the beginning it was good, in the end more extra help would have been appreciated.» (Rather good)
- Good in the beginning. In the end they were tied up with grading the projects» (Rather good)
- Good at first, but later on when we wanted to show our work, it took about 1 hour to be examined» (Rather good)
- I felt that the teachers did not have more than basic Catia knowledge.» (Rather good)
- But more time in the computer rooms whould have been nice. especially in the end of the course when everyone wanted to be approved.» (Rather good)
- It depended. Near the finish of the course» (Rather good)

11. How well has cooperation between you and your fellow students worked?

Very poorly»		1		1%
Rather poorly»		1		1%
Rather well»		12		21%
Very well»		41		74%
I did not seek cooperation»		0		0%

Genomsnitt: 3.69

- Didnt work well in my group, my colleage didnt do the exercices in the beginning of the course. So he had poor knowlege of CATIA in the beginning of the project. » (Rather poorly)

12. How was the course workload?

Too low»		1		1%
Low»		2		3%
Adequate»		45		81%
High»		6		10%
Too high»		1		1%

Genomsnitt: 3.07

- A lot of time spent on the project, but why must there be an exam? Make the project bigger and skip the exam!» (Adequate)
- The basic parts required quite a lot of work, but still adequate I think. The extra points felt unbalanced, too easy to get full points without learning that much. The exam was too simple, and the result from the exam meant less than the extra tasks.» (Adequate)
- A bit too high due to that I worked by myself» (High)
- With catia exercises, project, extra exercises and especially RDnT + an examina with a LOT of pages to go through, the course is rather extensive. It might be better with a "dugga" and put more focus on the catia model for grading.» (Too high)

13. How was the total workload this study period?

Too low»		1		1%
Low»		3		5%
Adequate»		35		63%
High»		11		20%
Too high»		5		9%

Genomsnitt: 3.29

- Personally i was into another course which was a project in automotive engineering and so i had to find time for the project both in Adv. CAD and other course as well prepare for the exam.» (High)
- Had three courses. And this course took a lot more time than expected.» (Too high)
- However, this was more due to my own ambitions increasing my workload. » (Too high)

Summarizing questions

14. What is your general impression of the course?

Poor»		7		12%
Fair»		11		20%
Adequate»		10		18%
Good»		22		40%
Excellent»		4		7%

Genomsnitt: 3.09

- There is nothing advanced about this course. The level should be increased.» (Poor)
- Well you told us about the Catia introduction, but besides that...» (Poor)
- It could be greatly improved.» (Poor)
- The lack of information and instruction in the project brought down my impression of the course. » (Fair)
- lectures where not very understandable» (Fair)
- I really know Catia by now.» (Adequate)
- I love modelling, good project. The examn didnt gave much (I will not construct my own cad software), better to concentrate on modelling and create advanced stuff in catia. That is really something to put in your CV. SKIP EXAMN» (Good)
- A fun course that gave a very good solid foundation for 3D modelling.» (Good)
- There were too few computers at some occations.» (Good)

15. What should definitely be preserved to next year?

16. What should definitely be changed to next year?

17. Additional comments

18. What master program do you attend?*

Product development»		40		68%
Systems, control and mechatronics»		5		8%
Automotive engineering»		9		15%
Engineering design»		0		0%
Advanced Engingineering Materials»		0		0%
other»		4		6%

Genomsnitt: 1.74

- I like CAD and was intrested in Catia but this was a poor course showing what it could do. The reason to my low grade and lack of motivation depended on bad exercises with almost zero help and difficult to show your project. Other courses became more important and the opportunity to get higher grade was neglected. The exam should then be used to give a higher grade to and mirror the course content better.» (Systems, control and mechatronics)
- Too much ppu stuff like RDnT, it should be a cad course right???» (Automotive engineering)
- Industrial design engineering» (other)
- Inustrial Design Engineering» (other)
- Industrial Design Engineering» (other)
- industrial design engineering» (other)

* obligatoriska frågor