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Course Evaluation Advanced Vehicle Dynamics, TME100

Status: Avslutad
Öppen för svar: 2008-05-27 - 2008-06-17
Antal svar: 30
Procent av deltagarna som svarat: 65%
Kontaktperson: Mathias Lidberg»
Utbildningsprogram som genomför enkäten: Chalmers

Your own effort

1. How many hours per week did you spend on this course?

We mean total time, that is, it comprises the time you spent in class and the time you spent on your own work. Try to estimate the average time over the entire study period.

30 svarande

<15 hours/week»5 16%
Around 20 hours/week»7 23%
Around 30 hours/week»12 40%
Around 40 hours/week»4 13%
>50 hours/week»2 6%

Genomsnitt: 2.7

- I had problems in the course and ended up screwing it all up by spending quite alot of time doing formula student instead» (<15 hours/week)
- eco marathon project in parallel» (<15 hours/week)
- feel happy during these hours.:)» (Around 20 hours/week)
- Mostly assignments work» (Around 30 hours/week)
- The assignments took all of the time available for the course. No time at all to read Pacjeka more than looking up what"s needed to do the assignments.» (Around 30 hours/week)
- Too much» (Around 40 hours/week)
- HUGE assignment workload!!!» (Around 40 hours/week)
- Much time was spended with the assignments. Both understanding and writing the reports.» (Around 40 hours/week)
- The assignments took too much time.» (>50 hours/week)

2. Attendance on lectures

How many per cent of the lectures did you attend?

30 svarande

<25%»1 3%
25-50%»1 3%
50-75%»5 16%
>75%»23 76%

Genomsnitt: 3.66

- eco marathon project in parallel» (50-75%)
- -think the lectures through at leas one more time before having class» (>75%)
- The lectures were good, but it"s really difficult and hard to understand totally.» (>75%)
- What is the point in just deriving equations on the black board? We have a hard time to follow and understand everything at the same time as we tries to write it down because it sometimes differs from the lecture notes. It is even harder to follow when the lecturer doesn"t even understand all equations himself and just derive half of it and tell us to read the rest in Pacjeka or that he will try to explain it at the next lecture.» (>75%)

3. Attendance on assignments sessions

How many per cent of the lectures did you attend?

30 svarande

<25%»2 6%
25-50%»3 10%
50-75%»7 23%
>75%»18 60%

Genomsnitt: 3.36

- eco marathon project in parallel» (25-50%)
- Too much matlab and not enough vehicle dynamics. Calculation seccions with tasks to practice which are less complex would probably be more rewarding» (>75%)
- I think it should been more session lectures.» (>75%)
- Good help that was needed to do the assignments and to understand and discuss.» (>75%)

Teaching and course administration

4. What is your opinion of the main course text book by Pacejka?

30 svarande

Very bad»0 0%
Rather bad»3 21%
Rather good»8 57%
Very good»3 21%
No opinion»16

Genomsnitt: 3

- too complitcate to understand the text.» (Rather bad)
- not very dig into it, just refer to when puzzles come out, seldomly read through. But they are solved whenever I turn to this book. so good.» (Rather good)
- The content is at quite high level.» (Rather good)
- very good, but for someone who knows vehicle dynamics rather good» (Very good)
- I bought the book and i realise i need to go through it. » (Very good)
- Didnt really read it, but what I have seen of the book alot from the lecture notes comes from Pacejka and the lecture notes where pretty good, see next question.» (No opinion)
- Only used lecture notes » (No opinion)
- Never red it! The ones how red it said that it was quite comlicated.» (No opinion)
- I never opened the book, used only the lecture notes.» (No opinion)
- Did not read it» (No opinion)
- havent looked in it, because you told us not to, due to issues with the licens...» (No opinion)
- not read» (No opinion)
- Haven"t had time toread it because all the assignents that took all the time.» (No opinion)
- Not read!» (No opinion)

5. What is your opinion of the lecture notes?

30 svarande

Very bad»0 0%
Rather bad»5 16%
Rather good»20 66%
Very good»5 16%
No opinion»0

Genomsnitt: 3

- They were not explaining why certain formulas was used, it more or less told us what to do, not why.» (Rather bad)
- No clear structure.» (Rather bad)
- sometimes messy» (Rather good)
- Too much repetition, alot of the things in the lecture notes are mentioned in every lecture note.» (Rather good)
- quite many type errors but they were almost always corrected quickly...» (Rather good)
- Very good and nice explanations (much more than in the basic course notes) 2 much mistakes on the notes...» (Rather good)
- Almost same as the course text book , except for some enlargement in the derivation» (Rather good)
- There should be a better connection to the assaignemnts and more examples solved on the blackboard. The lectures were too focused on deriving all the different equaitions instead of showing how to use them.» (Rather good)
- Usefull» (Rather good)
- Nice with a summary of the big Pacjeka book.» (Rather good)

6. How well did the course administration, web page, handouts etc work?

30 svarande

Very badly»1 3%
Rather badly»0 0%
Rather well»13 43%
Very well»16 53%

Genomsnitt: 3.46

- Why is the time for handin the assignments extended to after the exam. At least swedish students start to work by then to earn money to pay the rent! How can extra help time be added during daytime after the exam when people are workning? No point in having them. The last assigment ad to be skipped because it was impossible to get help during nights. Summary: Do not extend deadlines until after the exam, set a proper number of assignments with proper difficulty instead!!!» (Very badly)
- Some hand outs could have been handed out earlier» (Rather well)
- I was OK, would like to have the pre-exam questions earlier.» (Rather well)
- Worked well up until the week before the exam. The exercieses should have been handed out much earlier in the course. Solutions to the exercises should also been added.» (Rather well)
- Continous update of the homepage with handouts of lecture notes etc is appreciated.» (Very well)
- great job» (Very well)

7. What is your opinion of the material selected for the lectures?

30 svarande

Very bad»2 7%
Rather bad»3 11%
Rather good»14 53%
Very good»7 26%
No opinion»4

Genomsnitt: 3

- Thought this should be a course about suspension settings, affects of different wheel angles etc. But it was only one more course with equations and math. Does not feel that useful in real life if you shouldn"t develop software for ESP or Haldex systems etc.» (Very bad)
- Because of the layout of the lectures, with better structure it would probably have worked better» (Rather bad)
- Too much teori. Wanted to learn how to choose suspension and learn a program that the industry use, like Shark or Adams.» (Rather bad)
- Too many different subjects..» (Rather bad)
- More control stuff would be cool» (Rather good)

8. What is your opinion of the teaching in lectures?

30 svarande

Very bad»2 6%
Rather bad»6 20%
Rather good»13 44%
Very good»8 27%
No opinion»1

Genomsnitt: 2.93

- Lets face it Mathias, you need the practise, and even more would not hurt» (Rather bad)
- Some of the lectures were really bad and it took long time to make people understand the lecture, some still couldn"t understand till date some lectures» (Rather bad)
- as often in these types of subjects the lecturers are very good at the subject but maybe not that pedagogic.» (Rather bad)
- always several attemps before having a clear explanation» (Rather bad)
- The teacher most what he is lecturing about and should not get confused because of bad preparation. Seems that he only read Pacejka and then tried to give a lecture about it.» (Rather bad)
- Sometimes the lectures were quite messy, you did not really know when changing to another subject within the lecture.... clarify more!» (Rather good)
- maybe skip some derivations of formulas, and explain more» (Rather good)
- Should be more focus on the important things and not so wide» (Rather good)
- overall, very very good. but please waste less time on unnecessary explanations of equation derivations, which easily make students and teachers confused to some extent and get the lecture stuck. » (Very good)
- I like the way you explained and re-explained the difficults aspects of the course» (Very good)
- Good to have the assignmnets.» (Very good)

9. What is your opinion of the material selected for the assignments sessions?

30 svarande

Very bad»0 0%
Rather bad»4 13%
Rather good»19 65%
Very good»6 20%
No opinion»1

Genomsnitt: 3.06

- The material was basicly good, but there were to much time spent on things that wasn"t of intrest forthe course, too many matlab problems» (Rather bad)
- Same as above» (Rather bad)
- didn"t understand any of it was relying on others for support but got let down badly.» (Rather bad)
- It did not give very good understanding though» (Rather good)
- the most tricky matlab parts should have been handed out and there should have been more theoretical questions on the assignements forcing the student to learn what he/she is doing.» (Rather good)
- Some assignment reqiured a bit much time.» (Rather good)
- Ok, know what it was about. But some of them seem really bored to answer questions!» (Rather good)
- assignments were good, but not the grading system!!» (Very good)
- I think that the assignments were very good, they covered a wide range of subjects. » (Very good)
- I want to say: very very good...» (Very good)

10. What is your opinion of the work load of the assignments?

30 svarande

Very bad»9 31%
Rather bad»8 27%
Rather good»10 34%
Very good»2 6%
No opinion»1

Genomsnitt: 2.17

- Not wery fun to be finnished just before deadline although I started right away and did put some effort in to it.» (Very bad)
- Much to high» (Very bad)
- Ass 3 was so, so hard and long. Assignments (except 1 and 4) were too much matlab oriented. Swedish guys are so good at matlab, thought some foreigners (like me as french) are bad since we discovered this soft this year. So we are extremly disadvantaged compared to the swedish people» (Very bad)
- Too much and focus on things that"s not in the course» (Very bad)
- Are you kidding me??? WAAAAAYYYYYY to much» (Very bad)
- too hard for a student who doesn"t know matlab» (Very bad)
- too much, eco marathon project in parallel» (Very bad)
- Too time consuming» (Rather bad)
- Some of the assignments took too much time, very much due to lack of supervision. There must be more supervisors! And the assignment descriptions must be clearer, it was often hard to understand what to do...» (Rather bad)
- too much because of the great work load due to the complexity of coding in matlab.» (Rather bad)
- Too much, no time to read the rest!» (Rather bad)
- Too much problems with Simulink!! » (Rather bad)
- not so much of workload.» (Rather good)
- The last one shouldn"t been so big. Specially when the deadline is after the exam.» (Rather good)
- The work load was large, near too large.» (Rather good)
- sometimes heavier than expected, sometimes rather light. overall, it is proper, as long as I paid certain efforts in them.» (Very good)

11. What is your opinion of teaching in assignments sessions?

30 svarande

Very bad»0 0%
Rather bad»6 21%
Rather good»18 64%
Very good»4 14%
No opinion»2

Genomsnitt: 2.92

- Did not understand the going through assignments part, we know sort of how to do that specific part.» (Rather bad)
- The teaching was rather good, Sogol did always know what she was talking about, she knew the assignments very well. Sometimes I felt that Mathias did not know everything about the assignments... There has to be more assignment sessions or more supervisors in order to finish the assignments in time!» (Rather good)
- There should be two assistants during the assignent sessions and there should be more assignemnt sessions per week. In this way the assistants could invest more time on each student having the time to explain more deeply.» (Rather good)
- The help was good» (Rather good)
- Support and help were sufficient.» (Rather good)
- As above.» (Rather good)
- clear and helpful» (Very good)
- It took too long time to put up the matlab code for some of the assignments.» (Very good)

12. What is your opinion about using Simulink as tool in this course?

- good experience»
- Good but time consuming to look for errors»
- Simulink is a good tool, but we don"t have very much knowledge of the program, so maybe the tasks were a little bit too hard. You should focus on the vehicle dynamics, not the program code...»
- It would have been better with an introduction to Adams and Shark/Ravens.»
- Good overview and rather easy to work with. But also very time consuming when it comes to searching for errors which can occur and disappear by itself.»
- Quite good but the knowledge of the students and the teachers were not good enough»
- Good, nice tool to get to know»
- rather good. we improve on the way of exploration. »
- Usage of the took is really good, which lets me understand what happens exactly in real criteria, but for me personally have no previous knowledge on Matlab either, and the introductory class that was taught initially was just three classes and that will not help at all, so better if some classes on Matlab is taught for new comers during the beginning of the masters.»
- Fun program to work with.»
- Excelent, simulink rocks and that is the main simulation tool used in the automotive industry.»
- ok»
- good»
- It was what I liked the most about the final assignments. I think Simulink must be the a major part of the course.»
- Without a proper introduction to simulink you have to focus more on simulink than on the actual assignment which is bad.»
- good»
- Very good, but we need more knowledge before start of course»
- i think it"s nice to use simulink. it"s more close to the engineering world and make us well perpared for the future work.»
- +interesting in terms of evalution of different scenarios, good to have some knowledge about it for the future -time consuming»
- a course is needed»
- ok, but building a model should not be the may issue of the assignment»
- gives much of experience. and its quite usefull in future applications »
- Just clicking around in a new software.. No lectures about it etc.»
- The main »

Study climate

13. How is the general study climate in the master programme?

30 svarande

Very bad»1 3%
Rather bad»3 10%
Rather good»17 56%
Very good»9 30%
No opinion»0

Genomsnitt: 3.13

- Every day i was just in a hurry.» (Rather bad)
- Except for some courses taking too much space, not aware of that other courses exists» (Rather good)
- Everyone is ready to lend a heling hand nomather what cultural background.» (Very good)
- Does this matter for this course!?!? Shouldn"t it be a course evaluation?» (Very good)

14. How were the opportunities for asking questions and getting help?

30 svarande

Very poor»0 0%
Rather poor»5 16%
Rather good»13 43%
Very good»12 40%
I did not seek help»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 3.23

- Because some of teachers are located at Lindholmen» (Rather poor)
- It would been better is the teachers where at chalmers guldheden some houres a week when we don"t have lectures. Just so we can come up and ask questions.» (Rather poor)
- People at Lindholmen and a lot of questions at Johanneberg. Does not work although more help times were added.» (Rather poor)
- It would be better if you were situated at Johanneberg instead of Lindholmen...» (Rather good)
- i was able to ask many questions and get them clarified at the initial stage of the course but as it went through i couldn"t get them even after repeatedly asking the tutor, the tutor could not explain even after asking many times, because of which many in the class started avoiding asking questions» (Rather good)
- Its too bad that all the assistants and teachers are stationed at Lindholmen.» (Rather good)

15. How well has cooperation between you and your fellow students worked?

30 svarande

Very poorly»2 6%
Rather poorly»4 13%
Rather well»7 23%
Very well»17 56%
I did not seek cooperation»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 3.3

- The other students are good to work with, there are always someone to ask if you have ay questions.» (Very well)
- How should you manage the course otherwise!?» (Very well)

16. How was the course workload?

30 svarande

1 (Too low)»0 0%
0 0%
4 13%
12 40%
5 (Too high)»14 46%

Genomsnitt: 4.33

- first ansignment was daunting and was unable to complete it» (4)
- Pointless Matlab work instead of learning about vehicle dynamics...» (4)
- the assignments made the workload increase a lot!!!» (5 (Too high))
- Too much work for the assignments.» (5 (Too high))
- Too high in the end...» (5 (Too high))
- even 6» (5 (Too high))
- eco marathon project in parallel» (5 (Too high))

Summarizing questions

17. How well did the course fullfill your expectations?

30 svarande

1 (not at all)»3 10%
3 10%
10 33%
10 33%
5 (very well)»4 13%

Genomsnitt: 3.3 (bidrar till totalt genomsnitt/jämförelseindex)

- As said above, only Matlab work with equations. Increasing understanding of vehicle dynamics, no not at all.» (1 (not at all))
- Does not feel like I know more than before the course» (2)
- my basics were good, had a lot of expections on this course but now i think i was not satisfied with this course.» (2)
- Some thing were just an extention from the basic course. Still too much Matlab.» (3)
- I thought that the course would be quite hard with high work load, but not this high!» (4)

18. What is your general impression of the course?

30 svarande

Poor»3 10%
Fair»2 6%
Adequate»8 26%
Good»15 50%
Excellent»2 6%

Genomsnitt: 3.36

- Only teori, didn"t learn anything about suspension» (Poor)
- Does not feel like I know more than before the course» (Fair)
- Crap that we only learned about equations and Matlab and not about practical vehicle dynamics that can be used for an increased understanding. And no more vehicle dynamics can be choosen at Chalmers. Thanks...» (Fair)
- Feels like high work load with little new knowledge.» (Adequate)
- as i said early my basics were good, had a lot of expections on this course but now i think i was not satisfied with this course.» (Adequate)
- but could be made more clear in terms of goals and more comprehensive through more simple literature.» (Adequate)

19. What is your opinion of the material selected for the exam?

30 svarande

Very bad»2 8%
Rather bad»5 20%
Rather good»15 62%
Very good»2 8%
No opinion»6

Genomsnitt: 2.7

- We were told that most of the stuff on the exam was going to be from the assignments, but this was really not the case...» (Rather bad)
- we expected more problems like calculation in basics but it turned out to be derivation which is quite hard to derive in the exam.» (Rather bad)
- Exam good, preparation bad» (Rather good)
- Did have porblems understanding the questions though» (Rather good)
- exactly: 80% feeling good, though some important knowledge,like Lagrange Eq. are not included as expected» (Rather good)
- Seems to be the what the course was about.» (Rather good)
- It agreed with the lectures» (No opinion)

20. What is your opinion of the work load during the exam?

30 svarande

Very bad»7 26%
Rather bad»10 38%
Rather good»9 34%
Very good»0 0%
No opinion»4

Genomsnitt: 2.07

- It would have been more than enough with 3 tasks on the exam! I don"t think that you should fail the exam due to that you don"t have time to do all the tasks... The exam was a disaster, I was very stressed all the time, s stressed that I am afraid that I have made many small errors. If the work load on the exam had been lower, I am quite sure that there would have been much fewer that failed... An exam can"t b made in this way...» (Very bad)
- Too many derivations which almost led to attend only three questions out of five and asking an assignment which was performed in matlab in the exam is quite ridiculous.» (Very bad)
- The exam was a little bit too hard. » (Very bad)
- Assignment and exam at the same time? Not good.» (Very bad)
- Took alot more than 4 hours. Shame that the examinator said that it was quite a lot to do on the exam to some students before the exam. Why not fix the work load so it gets properly instead of telling people that it is alot to do.» (Very bad)
- It was not enough time» (Rather bad)
- the time ran out.» (Rather bad)
- calculation load is too high for the last question,if unfortunately we don"t know the state space calucation method. » (Rather good)

21. What is your opinion of the level of difficulty of the exam?

30 svarande

Very bad»6 25%
Rather bad»8 33%
Rather good»8 33%
Very good»2 8%
No opinion»6

Genomsnitt: 2.25

- Too hard and timeconsuming» (Very bad)
- The exam was much, much more difficult than the "14 problems" you gave us the week before. Lots of student fell very bad after this exam since it was so difficult. (compaired with the exam of the basic course that was quite easy)» (Very bad)
- Too lengthy paper full of derivations and questions which require a matlab code to solve.» (Very bad)
- And it was way too little time. » (Very bad)
- They difficulty level would have been good if there had been less tasks or more time! Since I was very stressed, the difficulty was quite bad.» (Rather bad)
- We have not had much practise in solving problems, sure we have had a lot of assignments but more simple problems to practise would improve the ability to work with vehicle dynamics» (Rather bad)
- It was little tough but rather good» (Rather bad)
- Too hart to pass if you just want a low grade.» (Rather bad)
- Too much work to be done in four hours. When no one leavs before the time is ut you know that there is too many questions!» (Rather bad)
- some expressions of the problems are vague and confusing, make students stupid when thinking of what teacher expected» (Rather good)
- As above.» (No opinion)

22. What should definitely be preserved to next year?

- contents of lectures, assignments»
- To go to the testtrack! Assignments»
- The assignments»
- Stora holm, but make it an assignment and not just a fun day»
- assignments pattern and of course the material of the lectures»
- The lab session that was really interesting and fancy. Very very good!»
- Think material is Ok if all the errors are corrected and also the assignments. but think it better if the pattern for the exam is changed and some real time problem where only calculations are involved.»
- stora holm»
- testing at stora holm!!»
- Storaholmen activity should be repeated. Simulink assignments should be continued.»
- book»
- trip to stora holm, assignments»
- The higher deepth of information compared to the basic course. Simulink assignments Stora Holm or other type of activity.»
- the assignment but not that hard»
- the field laboratory at storaholm»
- assignements»
- Not too much. Maybe the way with assignments and lectures.»

23. What should definitely be changed to next year?

- lecture notes»
- The preparation for the exam, maybe a räkneövningstillfälle per week to prepare for the exam. This time we didnt have a clue of what we where expected to know for the exam.»
- the exam...!»
- Go through which parts of the suspension geometry that gives certain types of behavior, make 2 design tasks in Adams/Raven instead. That gives much more useful knowledge and discussion during the design tasks.»
- The layout of the lectures, the many home exams along with a final exam»
- Less work load on the assignments, maybe just 5. Fortunatly the last assignent deadline was move, otherwise it would have been impossible.»
- The exam. Same kind of exam, but it should be less difficult... The ass". Too difficult, too much matlab oriented.»
- The exam pattern where only problem where i can only do some calculations and no dcerivations.»
- skip the last assignment....»
- no assignments the last week before the exam and no assignments after the exam.»
- work load assignment, exam questions»
- Not so much teori, more suspension settings and how to use different programs»
- better planing of the assignments so there is time to study to the exam...»
- Instead of separate lecture notes, a lecture reader may be useful in terms of showing students the general view of what they will learn.»
- assignements, need more direction»
- give exam problems during course»
- Reduced the assignment work load»
- A better connection to future jobs, something on active suspension Additional calculus both for understanding and preporation for exam and not just Matlab.»
- i don"t know how but a help with for matlab and simulink handling»
- less assignments»
- text literature»
- The things mentioned above. Don"t want to write it down again.»
- A cours with a written exam with caluclations should include some part of calculations by hand in the course!!! The first time you see the kind of problem should not be in the exam. Even if the assignements are at the same kind of subjects.»

24. Additional comments

- a small lecture to refresh control theory can be usefull. it is better to have this course after rigid body dynamics course.»
- Good course over all. Very timeconsuming assignments and little preparation for the exam.»
- in general a good course but there has to be improvements to next year in order to keep the students selecting the course.»
- Really not satisfied with this course needs a lot of changes for the lecturers end and also in the pattern of the exam that was prepared for this quarter. i prefer to redo all the classes again next year if possible to complete this track properly.»
- I have to retake the course unfortunately.»
- I did not appreciated the fact that no real action was taken to help the students involved in the eco marathon project, indeed, only half a day to review the whole course, the oral exam with the lowest grade is not a solution»
- the way the course is presented (literature) is bit confusing. needs to be more clear and precise like that of basic course in vehicle dynamics with Robert Thomson.»
- Really bad course that did not extend the knowledge about vehicle dynamics at all. Just took a lot of time. Worst course on the master program so far. Thanks!»
- I think the assignments involving derivations can be combined with the simulation assignments as 1 week for the derivations seem to long and unnecessary. If combined with the simulation then we get more time for the simulation as well. Topics in class can be better presented.»
Genomsnitt totalt för detta stycke: 3.3

Genomsnitt totalt för alla frågor: 3.3
Beräknat jämförelseindex: 0.57

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