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TIDAL ht12 Router och switchteknik, LEU420

Status: Avslutad
Öppen för svar: 2012-12-17 - 2013-01-27
Antal svar: 21
Procent av deltagarna som svarat: 58%
Kontaktperson: Lars Nordlund»
Utbildningsprogram som genomför enkäten: Dataingenjör 180 hp


Your own effort

1. How many hours per week did you spend on this course?

We mean total time, that is, it comprises the time you spent in class and the time you spent on your own work. Try to estimate the average time over the entire study period.

21 svarande

At most 15 hours/week»0 0%
Around 20 hours/week»1 4%
Around 25 hours/week»2 9%
Around 30 hours/week»3 14%
At least 35 hours/week»15 71%

Genomsnitt: 4.52

- Much content, although much of it was on a too basic level.» (Around 25 hours/week)
- Initially, the work load was a shock, but after a few weeks, it was managable. However, the other class definitely suffered due to the workload in this class. » (At least 35 hours/week)
- At least 60» (At least 35 hours/week)

2. How large part of the teaching offered did you attend?

21 svarande

0%»0 0%
25%»0 0%
50%»0 0%
75%»1 4%
100%»20 95%

Genomsnitt: 4.95

- Did we have an option?» (100%)
- 101%» (100%)


Goals and goal fulfilment

The course syllabus states the course goals in terms of learning outcomes, i.e., knowledge, skills and attitudes to be acquired by the student during the course.

3. How understandable are the course goals?

21 svarande

I have not seen/read the goals»4 19%
The goals are difficult to understand»0 0%
The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer»2 9%
The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn»15 71%

Genomsnitt: 3.33

- I"m pretty sure Ali showed us the goals in the beginning, however, they were soon forgotten» (I have not seen/read the goals)

4. Are the goals reasonable considering your background and the number of credits?

Answer this this question and the succeeding one, only if you do know the course goals.

19 svarande

No, the goals are set too low»0 0%
Yes, the goals seem reasonable»17 89%
No, the goals are set too high»2 10%

Genomsnitt: 2.1

- However considering the time range they are quite many» (Yes, the goals seem reasonable)

5. Did the examination assess whether you have reached the goals?

20 svarande

No, not at all»0 0%
To some extent»1 5%
Yes, definitely»18 90%
I don"t know/have not been examined yet»1 5%

Genomsnitt: 3

- As for the cisco class, I"m sure it fullfilled it"s purpose. As for the actual grading, I haven"t a clue.» (Yes, definitely)


Teaching and course administration

6. To what extent has the teaching been of help for your learning?

21 svarande

Small extent»2 9%
Some extent»6 28%
Large extent»4 19%
Great extent»9 42%

Genomsnitt: 2.95

- There werent any classes really, it was all seminars and I guess they were alright. However, its hard to pay attention to students who were less prepared for their presentations.» (Some extent)
- Since the lectures were mostly seminars by students, the quality of the lectures differed greatly. » (Some extent)
- Our Professor did an outstanding job.» (Great extent)

7. To what extent has the course literature and other material been of help for your learning?

21 svarande

Small extent»2 9%
Some extent»0 0%
Large extent»9 42%
Great extent»10 47%

Genomsnitt: 3.28

- The cisco material was my Bible.» (Small extent)
- This method of online material should be adopted for other courses » (Great extent)

8. How well did the course administration, web page, handouts etc work?

21 svarande

Very badly»0 0%
Rather badly»0 0%
Rather well»6 28%
Very well»15 71%

Genomsnitt: 3.71

- Superb» (Very well)


Study climate

9. How were the opportunities for asking questions and getting help?

21 svarande

Very poor»0 0%
Rather poor»1 4%
Rather good»4 19%
Very good»15 71%
I did not seek help»1 4%

Genomsnitt: 3.76

- Asking questions was very prone to misunderstandings, and all too often it was hard to get a sought answer for the question. Overall, this course has been affected negatively by communication issues.» (Rather poor)

10. How well has cooperation between you and your fellow students worked?

21 svarande

Very poorly»0 0%
Rather poorly»0 0%
Rather well»3 14%
Very well»18 85%
I did not seek cooperation»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 3.85

11. How was the course workload?

21 svarande

Too low»0 0%
Low»0 0%
Adequate»0 0%
High»10 47%
Too high»11 52%

Genomsnitt: 4.52

- The content of the covered material is quite simple and easy to understand, but there was a lot of material to cover. » (High)
- Way too high. It would be impossible to have two courses like this at the same time.» (Too high)
- At first it was a shock, after a few weeks it was under control. However, I started loosing control the last 2 weeks and that, my friends, was a living hell. » (Too high)
- But it was good. If you want to take this course be sure you are not taking any other courses with it because it requires a lot of time and work. But it"s definitely worth it!» (Too high)
- I"ve never experienced feeling psychically ill because of too high workload in school.» (Too high)

12. How was the total workload this study period?

21 svarande

Too low»0 0%
Low»0 0%
Adequate»0 0%
High»7 33%
Too high»14 66%

Genomsnitt: 4.66

- It was very hard to keep up with my other course, but it was worth it.» (High)
- This course workload did not reflect the credits given.» (Too high)
- What with Cisco taking at least 15 hours/day, I had 2 weekends between CCNA2-3 and CCNA3-4. That was time I could dedicate to the other class.» (Too high)
- I had 2 classes!» (Too high)
- As already stated this study period resulted in health degradation because of the excessive workload and stress. Both of the subjects went really well in the end, however getting there and paying the price for it might"ve been a bit over-the-top.» (Too high)


Summarizing questions

13. What is your general impression of the course?

21 svarande

Poor»0 0%
Fair»0 0%
Adequate»4 19%
Good»5 23%
Excellent»12 57%

Genomsnitt: 4.38 (bidrar till totalt genomsnitt/jämförelseindex)

- I have never learned this much in such a short period of time. However, the fact that there was NO time to catch up on the other class gives this statement a low grade. » (Adequate)
- Somewhat basic level on the subjects discussed in the course.» (Adequate)
- I liked the course but the workload was too great.» (Good)
- Great course. But hard to remember all the content since there where so many new things. » (Excellent)

14. What should definitely be preserved to next year?

- Cisco Learning Platform is good although some parts are a bit outdated. Maybe this could be solved by having lectures in topics that the cisco courses do not deal with.»
- The labs.»
- Everything»
- Following the CCNA curriculum. It may not always be the most up to date material, but the CCNA is highly valued in industry, and this course was a great preparation for it. The practical hands-on nature of the course also made it much more fun to learn.»
- Everything should be preserved,I went into that class with very little knowledge and experience in routing and switching, but now am a completely different person.»
- Close interaction with the different systems and gear used in the course.»
- The labs and the seminars.»
- Labs»

15. What should definitely be changed to next year?

- The seminars felt unneccessary and with the workload beeing as high as it was I think the seminars should be removed and instead have maybe one lecture each week on topics thats not covered that well by cisco.»
- The work load.»
- Skip the seminars »
- Nothing»
- Some of the older not anymore relevant material and the insane workload.»
- Nothing!»
- Don"t know»

16. Additional comments

- no comments-»
- Should introduce CCNP as continuation of CCNA. CCNA should be mandatory course for all students enrolled into MPCSN program and make CCNP an elective. »
- It might be worth to consider to change the nature of the seminars. Everybody needs to read the Cisco material anyway, so instead of having seminars on that material, it could be interesting to add other material that is not part of the cisco material. E.g. security issues specific to routing. The network security part is more general in nature, but there are routing specific security issues that could have been discussed in this course. Having less seminars might also help to raise the quality of the seminar lectures (e.g. allow groups of 3 or 4, but require higher quality).»
- Generally I would recommend this course for all networking students, and if given chance I would retake it again and again and again.»
- Thank you!»
Genomsnitt totalt för detta stycke: 4.38

Genomsnitt totalt för alla frågor: 4.38
Beräknat jämförelseindex: 0.84


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