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SP2_12/13 Industrial energy systems, KVM013

Status: Avslutad
Öppen för svar: 2012-12-20 - 2013-01-24
Antal svar: 56
Procent av deltagarna som svarat: 52%
Kontaktperson: Christina Larsson»


Your own effort

1. How many hours per week did you spend on this course?

We mean total time, that is, it comprises the time you spent in class and the time you spent on your own work. Try to estimate the average time over the entire study period.

56 svarande

At most 15 hours/week»10 17%
Around 20 hours/week»21 37%
Around 25 hours/week»19 33%
Around 30 hours/week»5 8%
At least 35 hours/week»1 1%

Genomsnitt: 2.39

- Around fifty percent of the course have been covered in earlier courses.» (At most 15 hours/week)
- Well balanced cource» (Around 25 hours/week)

2. How large part of the teaching offered did you attend?

56 svarande

0%»0 0%
25%»2 3%
50%»6 10%
75%»25 44%
100%»23 41%

Genomsnitt: 4.23

- The projects was very giving. Juan Florian Brau was awesome! » (75%)
- Was away for one week» (75%)
- More like 90%» (75%)
- I think I went to all lectures and project-sessions but one. » (100%)
- I tried to attend classes as often as possible. » (100%)


Goals and goal fulfilment

The course syllabus states the course goals in terms of learning outcomes, i.e., knowledge, skills and attitudes to be acquired by the student during the course.

3. How understandable are the course goals?

56 svarande

I have not seen/read the goals»10 17%
The goals are difficult to understand»1 1%
The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer»16 28%
The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn»29 51%

Genomsnitt: 3.14

- This course was very straight forward and it was clear from the beginning what we were supposed to go through and what we would learn. Therefore it was easy to know what to do and no time was wasted doing the wrong thing. » (The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn)

4. Are the goals reasonable considering your background and the number of credits?

Answer this this question and the succeeding one, only if you do know the course goals.

50 svarande

No, the goals are set too low»2 4%
Yes, the goals seem reasonable»47 94%
No, the goals are set too high»1 2%

Genomsnitt: 1.98

- For once in a course I really had the time to read through all the material and understand the techniques and tools of creating a HX-network and also for retro fitting.» (Yes, the goals seem reasonable)

5. Did the examination assess whether you have reached the goals?

51 svarande

No, not at all»0 0%
To some extent»9 17%
Yes, definitely»40 78%
I don"t know/have not been examined yet»2 3%

Genomsnitt: 2.86

- An exam can never test the whole course. But I think it was a good exam with general questions.» (To some extent)
- The exam was what I had expected» (Yes, definitely)


Teaching and course administration

6. To what extent has the teaching been of help for your learning?

56 svarande

Small extent»8 14%
Some extent»22 39%
Large extent»16 28%
Great extent»10 17%

Genomsnitt: 2.5

- The course book is well written but the presentations are suffering on a lack of motivating teaching skills. The exeption is the teacher who talked about pulp mills and other stuff at the beginning and a bit later about HEX network. The whole contant should be presented in a way like he did!!!» (Small extent)
- Very little help from lectures. Much more more learned when asking questions during the project hours.» (Some extent)
- Sometimes the lectures were with very support of the slides, and less explanation. For the next time, maybe do more exercises in the lectures as example.» (Some extent)
- There were so many hours of lectures. I believe that the same information could have been presented during a shorter time» (Some extent)
- I think that the teaching of all 3 lecturers I recall, are not professional from the style of presenting and all lack basic principles of presenting.» (Some extent)
- As the lessons were exactly the same information as in the compendium without any further hints or discussions it was mostly more useful to study on its own with the compendium» (Some extent)
- The lectures were most of the time not so usefull, as it was just repetition of the course book. » (Some extent)
- Especially the guiding through the projects!» (Great extent)

7. To what extent has the course literature and other material been of help for your learning?

56 svarande

Small extent»1 1%
Some extent»8 14%
Large extent»24 42%
Great extent»23 41%

Genomsnitt: 3.23

- The compendium is really clear and easy to understand (with the examples etc.).» (Large extent)
- The book was great.» (Large extent)
- I think the compendium is really good.» (Great extent)
- Not everybody learns better from going to class than from reading. I prefer reading, and with the great course litterature you have, you should tell people that the same information is gone through in the lectures as given in the litterature.» (Great extent)
- The course book is awesome!» (Great extent)
- Maby go over the course literature and clarify a couple of paragraphs. It sometimes seemed as if there were some information missing in the text, it just ended with a statment and no further explenation.» (Great extent)
- Most topics were really good explained in the compendium» (Great extent)

8. How well did the course administration, web page, handouts etc work?

56 svarande

Very badly»0 0%
Rather badly»0 0%
Rather well»20 35%
Very well»36 64%

Genomsnitt: 3.64

9. What was your overall impression of the lectures?

56 svarande

Excellent»2 3%
Good»29 51%
Moderate»22 39%
Poor»3 5%

Genomsnitt: 2.46

- Good if you dont want to read in the book.» (Moderate)
- Sometimes the lectures were with very support of the slides, and less explanation. For the next time, maybe do more exercises in the lectures as example.» (Moderate)
- Since they were going through everything so slowly, it felt like it was hard to focus sometimes.» (Moderate)
- The lectures should be adapted to what the students already know (is it important with a thorough description of the steam cycle?).» (Moderate)

10. What was your overall impression of the demo lectures/exercises?

56 svarande

Excellent»9 16%
Good»22 39%
Moderate»22 39%
Poor»3 5%

Genomsnitt: 2.33

- These were really helpful, it feels like I learned 85% of the course here and 15% in the lectures.» (Excellent)
- Its actually a great idea to do it that way. » (Good)
- Would be better to present them on the blackbord and write and explain in class rather then just show slides» (Good)
- We coudl not solve the exercises at the same time as the teacher did. Thus it did not bring so much during the demo. Maybe more after, when we try to do it at home.» (Moderate)
- Maby focus more on the part were the students hade some time to solve a problem, otherwise you just look at the slides and don"t learn as much. » (Moderate)
- The Demo lectures were rather boring, because a lot of the foregoing lecture was just repeated. The time of the demos would have been better invested in more time within the projects.» (Moderate)
- The demo lectures are maybe what can be improved til next year. Everything else in the course was very well planned but I got the impression that the demo lectures were not, not always. Maybe it is better if the teacher demostrate the whole exercise and then people can ask question. Some of the demo worked well but sometimes it felt that there wern"t enough time to do it well.» (Moderate)
- The TA Matteo has not been to much help, only saying if the result is wrong, but poor guiding. I went to viktor andersson or elin svensson and there got help.» (Poor)

11. What was your overall impression ot the exercise projects?

56 svarande

Excellent»31 55%
Good»23 41%
Moderate»1 1%
Poor»1 1%

Genomsnitt: 1.5

- Good projects but I think the last problem could have been ended a bit earlier. The last week one want to study for the upcoming exams.» (Excellent)
- Learning by doing is an excellent way of learning. Good instructions, assignments and help.» (Excellent)
- You learned a lot from them.» (Excellent)
- Best part of the lecture, where we had the chance to really understand the content» (Excellent)
- The projects were a very good help to understand the course and to learn how to calculate. My only remark is that the last project (that felt very important and an inporant part in the course) was very big and many students felt that it wasn"t enough time to finish it.» (Excellent)
- It seems like different teachers were unequal when correcting them, maybe you should go through that together before» (Excellent)
- I belive that the assistant should help the sudent with the exercises, but apperently M does not think so.» (Poor)

12. What was your impression of the Project 1 - Basic pinch analysis with cost targeting and heat exchanger network design?

56 svarande

Excellent»24 42%
Good»29 51%
Moderate»3 5%
Poor»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.62

- Most difficult one, but where I learned the most.» (Excellent)
- I was slightly terrified that all projects would be as large as project 1, so maybe more information about that project 1 is quite large compared to the other projects.» (Good)
- A little bit too long but interesting» (Good)
- It was good, but more time is needed. P1 is to huge especially when you are new to everything.» (Good)
- Maby be more clear of what you expect from the handins. » (Good)
- Maybe you should tell the students to check with you if they have constructed a correct pinch network before they countinue. To avoid subsequent errors.» (Good)

13. What was your overall impression ot the industrial laboratory at Renova?

56 svarande

Very interesting»26 46%
Good but could be improved»27 48%
Not Interesting»3 5%

Genomsnitt: 1.58

- It definitely interesting to see what the course contents can be used to, but I can"t say that I learned especially much about industrial energy systems from it.» (Very interesting)
- Great with the exercise we had there» (Very interesting)
- Getting away from school is nice for a change, but we didn"t do much there but to sit in their conference room and do calculations. This is something you can do at school. But it WAS interesting to get the guided tour.» (Good but could be improved)
- The tour through Renova was not very good, we could not hear what our guide was telling us. But when our teacher stoped at the heat pumps and took over the mike it was interesting. The exercise, when we used their actual data was good. » (Good but could be improved)
- The tour could have been a little more informative. It would also be great if the tour guide would be confident in speaking english.» (Good but could be improved)
- It was interesting to see a CHP plant, but the calculations and the tasks we had to solve seemed a little unnecessar. » (Good but could be improved)
- It is not really necessary to got there because we could not see so . The part with the Heat pumps was really good!» (Good but could be improved)
- We couldn"t hear anything during the tour because of a tech. failure. I understand that this was just bad luck but it worsen my imprssion of the laboratory.» (Good but could be improved)
- We were at another similar plant in Udevalla in Heat and power systems engineering and it felt as if everything was just repetition.» (Not Interesting)
- Did a 2 month internship at sävenäs combined with a not at all challenging assignment it was quite uninteresting.» (Not Interesting)


Teaching staff and guest lecturers

14. Please rate the lectures by Elin Svensson

56 svarande

Excellent»6 10%
Good»27 48%
Moderate»21 37%
Poor»2 3%

Genomsnitt: 2.33

- In the first lecture she seemed a bit nervous and unsure of herself, but after that she was great! She described things very well and pointed out what was important. Also good that presentations were available at course webpage before the lectures. » (Excellent)
- I actually prefer if the lectures are as long as the schedule says, instead of ending half an hour early (which sometimes were the case). Also I thought the explanation on how the method on optimizing energy sources was poorly explained.» (Good)
- needs to show more self confidence» (Good)
- Good lecture, but difficult to understand because Elin doesn"t speak that loud and there are around 100 persons in the room.» (Good)
- She just didn"t have a skilled way of teaching.» (Moderate)
- Sometimes the lectures were with very support of the slides, and less explanation. For the next time, maybe do more exercises in the lectures as example.» (Moderate)
- Sometimes it seemed like she wasn"t really prepared for the lecture, and it was then hard to follow what she was telling us. » (Moderate)
- She seemed to be a littöe distracted every now and then.» (Moderate)
- There was a lack of passion and no enthusiasm noticeable. I guess, if Elin would be little more open and joky, the lectures would be perfect. Because from the content side, the lectures are ok.» (Moderate)

15. Please rate the lectures by Thore Berntsson

55 svarande

Excellent»20 36%
Good»26 47%
Moderate»7 12%
Poor»2 3%

Genomsnitt: 1.83

- Sometimes he didn"t some words in English which made him slightly hard to comprehend.» (Excellent)
- Smoetimes he talks to fast» (Good)
- "ehh ehh ehh ehh heat exhanger, eh ehh ehh eeeeh pipeing cost"» (Poor)

16. Please rate the lectures by Matteo Morandin

55 svarande

Excellent»4 7%
Good»22 40%
Moderate»22 40%
Poor»7 12%

Genomsnitt: 2.58

- DIfficult to see where he wanted us to come. And too long to do all the background/foreground methodology in 4 hours in a raw... It would have been better to split it, because it was to many new things at the same time.» (Moderate)
- I can"t say exactly why, but I still have no idea how an evaporator nor a distillation column works.» (Moderate)
- Too much slides and too much information in that amount of time. It may not be due to Matteo, but these lectures felt a bit blurry» (Moderate)
- He explained quite simple things in a complex way. I didn"t understand what he was talking about at all during the lectures, and afterwards when I got what he had been talking about I was able to go through it myself and it wasn"t that hard. Maybe Matteo and I just don"t think the same way.» (Poor)

17. Please rate Jean-Florian Brau as exercise tutor

Jean-Florian was the tutor for Group A mainly, but also for Group B.

54 svarande

Excellent»14 25%
Good»15 27%
Moderate»1 1%
Poor»1 1%
Not relevant (I had a different tutor)»23 42%

Genomsnitt: 3.07

- Very helpful.» (Excellent)
- He definetely made things clearer. I couldn"t have done it without his guidance.» (Excellent)
- Very helpful and clear answers so one gets overall view of the problem.» (Excellent)

18. Please rate Elin Svensson as exercise tutor

Elin was the tutor for Group B mainly, but also for Group A.

54 svarande

Excellent»11 20%
Good»18 33%
Moderate»0 0%
Poor»1 1%
Not relevant (I had a different tutor)»24 44%

Genomsnitt: 3.16

- Went to elin when matteo did not help us.» (Good)

19. Please rate Viktor Andersson as exercise tutor

Viktor was the tutor for Group C mainly, but also for Group D.

54 svarande

Excellent»15 27%
Good»6 11%
Moderate»0 0%
Poor»0 0%
Not relevant (I had a different tutor)»33 61%

Genomsnitt: 3.55

- Nothing to complain about here, Viktor wasn"t telling us the answers to our questions, he made us see the answer ourselves, by asking us the right questions, which is a very good way to learn. » (Excellent)
- Always listening and taking his time.» (Excellent)
- Went to viktor when matteo did not help us.» (Excellent)

20. Please rate Matteo Morandin as exercise tutor

Matteo was the tutor for Group D mainly, but also for Group C.

53 svarande

Excellent»7 13%
Good»7 13%
Moderate»7 13%
Poor»2 3%
Not relevant (I had a different tutor)»30 56%

Genomsnitt: 3.77

- I would had preferred a nicer tone on his e-mails.» (Good)
- sometimes Matteo could be quite unpleasant. Laughing at us when we asked him something. He didn"t listen when we asked something, he just assumed that we were asking something we didn"t and started explaining the wrong thing. But in the end we sort of got to know him and how he is and then it wasn"t too bad. I just know that he made some people upset when being rude. » (Moderate)
- Matteo was good, but he would save a lot of time by being a bit more patient to listen to the full question when helping out. Quick to assume and interupting the question with an non relevant answer.» (Moderate)
- Sometimes he didn"t let us finish our questions and just started answering what he thought we needed.» (Moderate)

21. Please rate Valeria Mora as exercise tutor

Valeria replaced Viktor Andersson (Group C) during Project exercises 2-4.

54 svarande

Excellent»6 11%
Good»12 22%
Moderate»0 0%
Poor»1 1%
Not relevant (I had a different tutor)»35 64%

Genomsnitt: 3.87

- Valeria was nice, but sometimes she just gave ur the right answers and we didn"t get the understanding. » (Good)

22. Please rate Johan Isaksson as the Renova laboratory tutor

56 svarande

Excellent»9 16%
Good»35 62%
Moderate»11 19%
Poor»1 1%

Genomsnitt: 2.07

- He needs to speak up. » (Good)
- I rated everybody else but Johan as "excellent", but Johan just as "good", but this is just because the Renova lab was not that interesting to me and too short to get to know Johan better.» (Good)


Study climate

23. How were the opportunities for asking questions and getting help?

56 svarande

Very poor»0 0%
Rather poor»2 3%
Rather good»23 41%
Very good»26 46%
I did not seek help»5 8%

Genomsnitt: 3.6

- If I asked something in the break the response was always positive, but answers by e-mail were sometimes very annoyed.» (Rather good)
- Did not really seek help more than once but then it was good.» (Rather good)
- Sometimes hard during demos» (Rather good)
- The teachers were very available for the students to ask some questions all the time.» (Very good)
- It was litle bit hectic on exercises sometime. But worked well in total.» (Very good)
- When we came to ask a question to Matteo, he had directly time and took adequate time to explain everything. Toppen!» (Very good)
- Good that information were available at the webpae so much in advance when it was possible to meat the teachers. It was also easy to et answers by mail.» (Very good)

24. How well has cooperation between you and your fellow students worked?

56 svarande

Very poorly»0 0%
Rather poorly»2 3%
Rather well»13 23%
Very well»40 71%
I did not seek cooperation»1 1%

Genomsnitt: 3.71

- Mixing both chemical and mechanical engineers can sometimes have bad effect. My personal view was that everything was up to the "mechanical engineer". What i want to say is that these both groups are at different level when it comes to exercises.» (Very well)
- Group size was alright!» (Very well)

25. How was the course workload?

56 svarande

Too low»0 0%
Low»1 1%
Adequate»33 58%
High»21 37%
Too high»1 1%

Genomsnitt: 3.39

- The projects went well for us. I think that the load would"ve been too high for some people. » (High)
- Maybe only i feel it that way cause i was not able to attend mauch of the classes in the beginnig due to health issues.» (High)
- Maybe put the last projects earlier so one can focus on exams.» (Too high)

26. How was the total workload this study period?

56 svarande

Too low»0 0%
Low»0 0%
Adequate»38 67%
High»16 28%
Too high»2 3%

Genomsnitt: 3.35

- High but interesting» (High)


Summarizing questions

27. What is your general impression of the course?

56 svarande

Poor»0 0%
Fair»2 3%
Adequate»7 12%
Good»31 55%
Excellent»16 28%

Genomsnitt: 4.08 (bidrar till totalt genomsnitt/jämförelseindex)

- Much have already been covered in earlier courses, but the rest was interesting.» (Fair)
- The Pinch Analysis is a very useful methodology. Even if I am not sure to use it in the future for a thesis or a job, I am really happy to know how to apply it.» (Good)
- I found the course really interesting. There are always things that can be better but overall the structure is quite good. Only some minor additions in the litterature and some restructuring of the lectures are needed. » (Good)
- The projects were really helpful but the lectures were confusing. I"m sorry i do not have a solution but if the lectures can be made more interesting then the course can be expanded more» (Good)
- It was good. But more about distillations columns would be great. I myself was very weak when it came to distillation columns.» (Good)
- It was very hands on and I feel like I will remember most of it even after the exam» (Excellent)
- I think it was a very interesting course.» (Excellent)

28. What should definitely be preserved to next year?

- Renovated and the exercises. »
- Renova visit, and the projects»
- The projects.»
- lab at renova and assignments»
- The assignment project»
- All projects»
- Renova Lab and Exercises»
- All, one of the most interesting courses so far :) »
- All the projects.»
- The projects »
- the projects»
- renova laboratory»
- The litterature, the projects and the lab at Renova. Extremely good for learning. Also I"m impressed by the questions and solution guidelines that you put up on the web page. Gives a good structure for repeating the course material. »
- Project exercise structure.»
- The project are helping very much to lower the time needed to prepare for the exam. The project should be kept the way they are, meaning that no grading should be given.»
- The project exercises were an excellent preperation for the exam and they were very good to get used to the methods we discussed in the lectures. »
- The project exercises, these really helps to get a understanding of the different subjects in the course. The compendium is great and describe everything in a good way.»
- The projects»
- Projects!»
- Project exercise, very important for the understanding, and the last lecture about pinch analysis in industry»
- I would leave the course and its content as it is.»
- The projects.»
- the exercise projects»
- the project exercises and the number of tutors for the number of students so that students can really discuss their exercises and questions»
- the whole concept. a very well structured course!»

29. What should definitely be changed to next year?

- Maybe give more "weight" for the projects, so that not everything depends on the final exam. For example fo half-half of the final grade.»
- The way lectures are hold.»
- lectures before the corrsponding assignment»
- Lectures should be explained with more "by heart" knoledge than just reading slides. This applies only to teacher Elin Svensson.»
- But the exam guideline earlier»
- Start earlier with the projects, too much to doo during exams.»
- More thoroughly done excerises, to have some by hand rather than the projects which are only on computers. Atleast I feel that the way you learn by doing it by hand is more clear than by computer.»
- decrease the number of lecture-hours, »
- course book»
- Litterature: Better description of the absorption heat pumps, better illustrations (the ones from the Renova lab was way easier to undertand). A better description or illustration(placement of temperatures and such) of the evapiration unit. The illustration is hard to relate to when reading the text. The heat pump improvements (i.e. subcooling the medium and returning steam after expansion) could be more thoroughly explained. Lectures: The litterature is excellent, just let people know in the beginning of the course that the same material is treated in the litterature as in the lectures. Not everyone learns more efficiently by going to lectures over reading the litterature. The lectureing time can probably be cut by half. I (for example) don"t know about people from chemistry but the students from Sust Energy Syst definetly know how a steam cycle works. There are a lot of new things regarding the pinch point analysis. In the introduction of the foreground-background analysis just repeat the difference about composite curves, the balanced composite curves and the GCC and shortly repeat how they are built(cascade diagrams). »
- Lectures could be laid out as an introduction to each Project exercise.»
- The Renova lab was interesting but it felt unnecessary to solve calculations while sitting in a room in a waste-to-energy-plant. I think a regular study visit without these calculations would be more interesting to most of the students. »
- Matteo, he does not seem to like to teach and does it not very well.»
- The two last projects were large and in the end of a study period one wants to focus on the exam and not on projects. Perhaps these could be made a little bit smaller or maybe the projects could start earlier in the study period?»
- Less slides during some lectures, 15-25 is good, 40+ not nice.»
- You should really respect the 3 week grading time for exams, not acceptable to go over time with that and especially not when you don"t even apologize..»
- I do find hardly anything to change»
- All lecturers could attend a course: How to present and speak in front of students or the public. I guess the lecturing skills are the ones to be improved»
- No Demo exercises anymore.»
- Demo examples should be solved on the board not read from slides!»
- how the content is presented in the lectures»
- improvments may be done with the demoexercises and the last project. see comments above.»

30. Additional comments

- Exam harder thanexpectef»
- I hope that Elin will get some more sleep eventually, when her baby is getting older. I felt sorry for her when I was tired and had slept like 8 hours and she told us she had been sleeping for 4. ,-)»
- The economy part of the book is good for getting a good understanding of how real investments are handeled and I think that you shold keep it. A lot of the information is not used in the course though. It could be good to mention this in the lectures and tell us what equations to focus on.»
- thank you for a good course!»
Genomsnitt totalt för detta stycke: 4.08

Genomsnitt totalt för alla frågor: 4.08
Beräknat jämförelseindex: 0.77


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