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TKDAT ht 10 Computer communication, EDA343

Status: Avslutad
Öppen för svar: 2010-12-13 - 2011-01-18
Antal svar: 17
Procent av deltagarna som svarat: 25%
Kontaktperson: Lars Nordlund»
Utbildningsprogram som genomför enkäten: Datateknik 300 hp


Your own effort

1. How many hours per week did you spend on this course?

We mean total time, that is, it comprises the time you spent in class and the time you spent on your own work. Try to estimate the average time over the entire study period.

17 svarande

At most 15 hours/week»10 58%
Around 20 hours/week»2 11%
Around 25 hours/week»2 11%
Around 30 hours/week»1 5%
At least 35 hours/week»2 11%

Genomsnitt: 2

- Because of our other course (EEK140) taking such an incredible amount of time, we barely had any time to spare for this course.» (At most 15 hours/week)

2. How large part of the teaching offered did you attend?

17 svarande

0%»1 5%
25%»3 17%
50%»4 23%
75%»7 41%
100%»2 11%

Genomsnitt: 3.35

- The lectures were not suited for me and my classmates. We barely understood anything, even from the start. Also, a couple of our mandatory labwork hours in the other course (EEK140) collided with our lectures in this course.» (25%)
- But it was very hard to stay focused during the lectures. They really need to find some other ways to teach, that was extreme!!» (50%)
- Attended everything in the beginning but the lectures became very boring » (50%)


Goals and goal fulfilment

The course syllabus states the course goals in terms of learning outcomes, i.e., knowledge, skills and attitudes to be acquired by the student during the course.

3. How understandable are the course goals?

17 svarande

I have not seen/read the goals»4 23%
The goals are difficult to understand»1 5%
The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer»4 23%
The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn»8 47%

Genomsnitt: 2.94

4. Are the goals reasonable considering your background and the number of credits?

Answer this this question and the succeeding one, only if you do know the course goals.

15 svarande

No, the goals are set too low»0 0%
Yes, the goals seem reasonable»12 80%
No, the goals are set too high»3 20%

Genomsnitt: 2.2

- The teachers, at least in our second course, didn"t care about making sure that lectures didn"t crash. Also, the lectures apparently not being adjusted for newbies, made it a lot harder for us to learn efficiently.» (Yes, the goals seem reasonable)
- the examination is the biggest problem. » (No, the goals are set too high)
- I think computer communication course is a bit difficult for us with Biomedical engineering background.» (No, the goals are set too high)

5. Did the examination assess whether you have reached the goals?

15 svarande

No, not at all»1 6%
To some extent»2 13%
Yes, definitely»8 53%
I don"t know/have not been examined yet»4 26%

Genomsnitt: 3


Teaching and course administration

6. To what extent has the teaching been of help for your learning?

17 svarande

Small extent»8 47%
Some extent»6 35%
Large extent»3 17%
Great extent»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.7

- As mentioned, it was really hard to get something from the lectures. It"s hard to rember 60 powerpoint slides in one hour---» (Small extent)
- Probably learned approximatively nothing from the lectures » (Small extent)
- Barely understood anything. Couldn"t go to some of the lectures.» (Small extent)
- She needs to speak louder, good slides thought» (Small extent)
- The teaching is more of a commercial for the literature, with so little commitment from the teacher that I find it embarrassing.» (Small extent)
- Particulary in the beginning of the course» (Large extent)

7. To what extent has the course literature and other material been of help for your learning?

17 svarande

Small extent»2 11%
Some extent»7 41%
Large extent»6 35%
Great extent»2 11%

Genomsnitt: 2.47

- There is not hard to find good literature about the subject, me and my fellow students had to get other material to lern the course. The book, an even more the slides, are so poorely and not pedagogic at all. In fact, some of the material is about protocols (Internet) mostley used during the 90"s.» (Small extent)
- I didn"t have time to read it.» (Some extent)
- Learned all I learned from either the book or the study guide or from the past exams» (Large extent)

8. How well did the course administration, web page, handouts etc work?

17 svarande

Very badly»6 35%
Rather badly»2 11%
Rather well»8 47%
Very well»1 5%

Genomsnitt: 2.23

- bad instructions, no one to ask for help» (Very badly)
- The Web page is like a labyrinth, teacher is missing?!» (Very badly)
- You might think that a course in computer communication would have a nice, easy-to-handle web page. Think again. It is messy, old and students have little access to answers to problem in the book or to past exams. This might be because the exam is just copies of some questions in the book. The teacher hasn"t done much for improving the course. » (Very badly)
- Three times there was suppose to be a lecture but no information that it had been canceled» (Very badly)
- The webpage is out of date and complicated to navigate on» (Rather badly)
- The assignments worked well but it is bad that the teacher did not show up for two lectures» (Rather well)


Study climate

9. How were the opportunities for asking questions and getting help?

17 svarande

Very poor»3 17%
Rather poor»3 17%
Rather good»9 52%
Very good»2 11%
I did not seek help»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 2.58

- they didnt even understand english so :P» (Very poor)
- During the half-time evaluation, the teacher didn"t listen to the students comment and when we asked for help, we got snide comments back. » (Very poor)
- Only the lecturer was the one who could answer in a convinient way, not the supervisors/ chinese guys» (Very poor)
- Some, but i did not feel comfortable asking questions since the response were rather poor. (Felt like asking questions was to "pushing" and needy). But this was just outside lectures. » (Rather poor)
- The teachers were always open for Questions » (Rather good)

10. How well has cooperation between you and your fellow students worked?

17 svarande

Very poorly»2 11%
Rather poorly»0 0%
Rather well»4 23%
Very well»11 64%
I did not seek cooperation»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 3.41

- All that we learned , we learned by working together and ask eachother» (Very well)
- I think (still don"t know) that I passed the exam and this is only thanks to my fellow students and Ali (Chalmers Lindholmen).» (Very well)

11. How was the course workload?

17 svarande

Too low»0 0%
Low»3 17%
Adequate»9 52%
High»2 11%
Too high»3 17%

Genomsnitt: 3.29

- Should be higher to make the students lern. I get the feeling that the teacher and tutors are lazy and don"t want to hold the course.» (Low)
- The first task ( programming) needed a lot of time!» (High)
- the examination is really horrible. its way too hard. the past exams doesnt even have answers.» (Too high)

12. How was the total workload this study period?

16 svarande

Too low»0 0%
Low»1 6%
Adequate»6 37%
High»4 25%
Too high»5 31%

Genomsnitt: 3.81

- Had two courses where the tempo was a little bit slower» (Low)


Summarizing questions

13. What is your general impression of the course?

17 svarande

Poor»5 29%
Fair»3 17%
Adequate»4 23%
Good»5 29%
Excellent»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 2.52

- poor instructions to everything we have done. » (Poor)
- I felt that the course was rather boring and it is incredibly bad that there are not complete solutions to the past exams. There are complete solutions to past exams in every other course that we have had. The lectures fast became very boring. » (Poor)
- I find it embarrassing that CTH are giving such a poorley course in computer communication. This is so sad, because generally the courses are good and the subject is so interesting.» (Poor)
- Seems very unclear whats acctualy going on in the course and the lectures did not provide anything. All that was learnd we did by our self» (Fair)
- The supervision could be better!! The course needs better # handledare#» (Fair)
- Excellent if assignment 1 were more organized» (Good)

14. What should definitely be preserved to next year?

- The lectures when doing assignments»
- Nothing really»
- Lectures plan Lab 2»
- The lab»
- Application layer more detail .»
- association with cisco course»
- Cisco and Ali. And the french guys lectures. They were really good!»
- Assignment 2»
- Better supervision for the labs and excercises»

15. What should definitely be changed to next year?

- new labs or at least new instructions, and remove this crappy exam.»
- The LAb assignment 1, it"s all about JAVA and not datacomm. What if someone doesnt have java background? And lab assignment 3 felt like a assignemnt just to fill out the time, to give us something to do. felt so unnessecary!»
- Better lectures that focuses more on what is really important instead of simply pumping out information during the lectures. »
- Make sure lectures don"t crash with other courses. Make it so that newbies get a more fair chance of passing the exam. With the total workload during the study period (E08), this was nearly impossible for us.»
- Lab 1, because learning Java from scratch took longer time than doing all 3 Labs»
- Physical layer detail should be skip.»
- nothing»
- The slides, literature, the instruction for the first laboration/assignment.»
- Assignment 1. Why multithreaded and not single so you can focus on the right thing.»
- supervisors/handledare»

16. Additional comments

- teachers missing their class too... not just once. worst course on chalmers so far (3 years)»
- Lecturers failed to tell us twice when they were not going to arrive to the lecture hall. I just think I should point that out since it has been the only course where it has happened to me since I"ve been attending to Chalmers.»
- Great thanks to Marina Papatriantafilou and Khoa Huynh»
- For the first year in a long time was not ALL questions on the exam taken directely from the books review questions. The midterm respons from the teacher regarding the assignment :"- (Marina, via email) we have had a tutorial for the assignment (which was held 2-ice this year)" seems very rude. The reason for the tutorial to be held twice was due to the fact that the responsible teacher did not show up in time the first time. And to be given the same info twice does not make anything clearer.»
- good course.»
- The teacher should speak louder and be more committed. Embarrassing.»
- If there is no lecture on the schedule, write it on the web so that not 50% of the students mis- interpret it. Also, advertise that you can at any time visit (phd students and examinator) when having questions.»
- MR. Ali from lindholmen who guided the lab was really pedagogical and we had a good lab opportunity, we learned alot.»


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