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Medicine for the engineer, SSY180, H10

Status: Avslutad
Öppen för svar: 2010-12-06 - 2011-01-03
Antal svar: 44
Procent av deltagarna som svarat: 40%
Kontaktperson: Madeleine Persson»

Your own effort

1. How many hours per week did you spend on this course?

We mean total time, that is, it comprises the time you spent in class and the time you spent on your own work. Try to estimate the average time over the entire study period.

44 svarande

At most 15 hours/week» 37 84%

Around 20 hours/week» 5 11%

Around 25 hours/week» 2 4%

Around 30 hours/week» 0 0%

At least 35 hours/week» 0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.2

- classes are sufficient» (At most 15 hours/week)
- total of 20 h on the hole course» (At most 15 hours/week)

2. How large part of the teaching offered did you attend?

44 svarande

0%» 1 2%

25%» 5 11%

50%» 11 25%

75%» 19 43%

100%» 8 18%

Genomsnitt: 3.63

- I have studied medicine before so i already got the knowledge required to pass.» (0%)
- Probably the best lecturers overall that I"ve ever had.» (100%)

Goals and goal fulfilment

The course syllabus states the course goals in terms of learning outcomes, i.e., knowledge, skills and attitudes to be acquired by the student during the course.

3. How understandable are the course goals?

44 svarande

I have not seen/read the goals» 15 34%

The goals are difficult to understand» 0 0%

The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer» 9 20%

The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn» 20 45%

Genomsnitt: 2.77

4. Are the goals reasonable considering your background and the number of credits?

Answer this this question and the succeeding one, only if you do know the course goals.

34 svarande

No, the goals are set too low» 3 8%

Yes, the goals seem reasonable» 29 85%

No, the goals are set too high» 2 5%

Genomsnitt: 1.97

- A written exam would be better. So that you are able to evaluate your answers more.» (No, the goals are set too low)
- even though i have not seen the goals, they seemed obvious» (Yes, the goals seem reasonable)
- Depends on students backgrounds» (No, the goals are set too high)

5. Did the examination assess whether you have reached the goals?

38 svarande

No, not at all» 1 2%

To some extent» 17 44%

Yes, definitely» 14 36%

I don"t know/have not been examined yet» 6 15%

Genomsnitt: 2.65

- It is very bad that the teachers say what is important to learn, and assure that no other questions on the topic will be asked on the exam. But the opposit is the case, and not a single question on the things said to be important were asked. It is ok if we should learn everything in the book, but please then don not tell us that we dont have to learn just som parts. » (No, not at all)
- Could be less details. To many questions in detail level and to few on a higher level. » (To some extent)
- There were too many terms that one should learn instead of testing that we understand the concepts» (To some extent)
- Too many detailed questions, you don"t know if I know anything about the system or homeostasis.» (To some extent)
- very good examination giving questions for all grade levels» (Yes, definitely)

Teaching and course administration

6. To what extent has the teaching been of help for your learning?

41 svarande

Small extent» 3 7%

Some extent» 10 24%

Large extent» 20 48%

Great extent» 8 19%

Genomsnitt: 2.8

- It"s a tough time (5-8pm). Some lectures were dynamic and entertaining while informative, and others were just plain, making it impossible to pay attention.» (Some extent)
- Those students not attending the lectures seems to have done better on the exam compared to us who went to the lectures, because of wrongly dirtections on what is important from the teachers. Should it be like that??» (Some extent)
- i dind´,t know anything about phisiology » (Large extent)
- Depending on the persons that held the lessons, some were really good, and some didn"t teach anything!» (Large extent)
- the lessons gave the general orientation, the book the specifics» (Large extent)

7. To what extent has the course literature and other material been of help for your learning?

43 svarande

Small extent» 1 2%

Some extent» 7 16%

Large extent» 22 51%

Great extent» 13 30%

Genomsnitt: 3.09

- The book is very good. But it would be good to have lecture slides from all lectures, why is that not done? It can not depend on legislation since there are slides with a lot of pictures from several different books already on the web page. ??» (Large extent)
- Very good text book.» (Great extent)
- very good book, since it can be read superficially and still include the adequate» (Great extent)

8. How well did the course administration, web page, handouts etc work?

43 svarande

Very badly» 1 2%

Rather badly» 12 27%

Rather well» 21 48%

Very well» 9 20%

Genomsnitt: 2.88

- All of the handouts must be published on the web!» (Very badly)
- Slides were not uploaded in time with a few exceptions» (Rather badly)
- Upload updated handouts before lecture. Some handouts vere not accesible. Hard to get information about important issues if one missed lecture since no pages was specified in the course pm.» (Rather well)
- I would be good if all the slides from the lectures could be placed on the web for those who can not attend the lectures.» (Rather well)
- all the powerpoint slides where not available on the home page unfortunately» (Rather well)
- Slides should be put up before the lecture, not after since we need time to print them out so we can bring them to the lecture» (Rather well)

Study climate

9. How were the opportunities for asking questions and getting help?

41 svarande

Very poor» 0 0%

Rather poor» 5 12%

Rather good» 10 24%

Very good» 13 31%

I did not seek help» 13 31%

Genomsnitt: 3.82

- during the lectures it was good, but it was hard to know where to turn with specific questions since the e-mails of the lecturers were not on the PM» (Rather poor)

10. How well has cooperation between you and your fellow students worked?

43 svarande

Very poorly» 0 0%

Rather poorly» 1 2%

Rather well» 8 18%

Very well» 21 48%

I did not seek cooperation» 13 30%

Genomsnitt: 4.06

- I don"t think this question applies.» (I did not seek cooperation)

11. How was the course workload?

43 svarande

Too low» 1 2%

Low» 9 20%

Adequate» 33 76%

High» 0 0%

Too high» 0 0%

Genomsnitt: 2.74

- It would be more interessting if you were able to visit a hospital, watch an operation or something else that can connect to the studies. A small report could be written at some subject. Much more can be added to this course to make it more relevant. This course could act an more importand role as it is connecting bioengineering engineers and Doctors. No other course fills this gap. Therefore increase its content!» (Too low)
- low workload, but still a lot of information to process so it was not too easy» (Low)

12. How was the total workload this study period?

43 svarande

Too low» 1 2%

Low» 2 4%

Adequate» 22 51%

High» 15 34%

Too high» 3 6%

Genomsnitt: 3.39

- Did not take the other biomedical courses» (Adequate)
- I study at 125%» (High)

Summarizing questions

13. What is your general impression of the course?

42 svarande

Poor» 0 0%

Fair» 4 9%

Adequate» 13 30%

Good» 18 42%

Excellent» 7 16%

Genomsnitt: 3.66

- Way, way too basic.» (Fair)
- Interesting but fairly easy course, due to the format of the exam» (Adequate)
- It was interesting and this subject is something that I wanted to learn, but I don"t feel that the course corresponded to my expectations in form of interesting and giving lectures.» (Adequate)
- some lecturers were very pedagogic and other less so, but it was very good with varying lectures. Also, some recommended exercises in the book would be good for more effective studies.» (Good)
- Interesting course but a bit to many anatomy terms. The most interesting part for an engineer is how the body function, not what the different parts of the brain or the heart are called.» (Good)

14. What should definitely be preserved to next year?

- same as this year.»
- handouts should be in detail because all students can not buy or get in library, reason is more students were in the course.»
- yeah.»
- same»
- Most of The lecturers who had real life pictures and videos and examples to present in the class made this course most interesting. I hope this doesn"t change.»
- the content of the subject covers all perfectly»
- Thomas Skoglund!»
- Textbook»
- The lecturer which had the part about CNS and brain!!»
- The teacher on CNS!! Very good and understandable!»
- Skoglund, Peeker, Larsson. Make sure they stay in this course. All teachers were good though these 3 was really good.»
- The lecturers, excellent.»
- Ralph Peeker as a lecturer.»
- Peekers lectures and the CNS/PNS lectures.»
- The subjects considered in the course.»
- Way of teaching and time for the class.»
- The structure was good.»
- Need more information on handouts»

15. What should definitely be changed to next year?

- nothing.»
- no need to change. it s good planning and schedule.»
- Maybe more long answers and not just one-word answers»
- nothing particular»
- no»
- handle out more slides, especially non book material! Some lectures were very boring because the teachers have only talked about slides from the book! In opposite to this we"ve had impressive lectures by other teachers with their own material! »
- Nothing in my mind right now. but maybe one female lecturer will be nice, so it seems more gender wise equal. It doesn"t matter. But seemed the cool doctors are all male, which is not the case ,) »
- all the presentations have to be uploaded»
- Too large part about the male urinary system compared to the female. Very heavy focus on prostate cancer. »
- Evaluation, perhaps? I don"t see the point in memorizing body part names and processes that will be forgotten after the Christmas period. Maybe the final grade should be based on a research essay on an applied medical-engineering application covering the explanation of how the anatomical structures work. that something is retained on the student"s head and that something might be relevant to the field he/she wants to work in. (perhaps?)»
- The lectures should be shortened to 2 hours»
- course administration, web page, handouts »
- Have lecture slides on the web page from all lectures. Please have directions to chapter and pages in the book for every lecture. It is otherwise hard to know what is important. Clarify what is important to learn. The things talked about on lectures or everything in the book? »
- The exam is rather easy and it doesn"t cover all the parts of the cours.»
- One "test exam" for both exams, Isn"t there a rule for that on Chalmers?»
- Some lectures were a bit too much anatomy and too little functions and problems.»
- The subjects could be considered in more detail. The questions on the exam should be more wide likefor example: Describe the different lobes of the brain.»
- Handouts with more texts instead of more pictures. »
- The communication between examinator, lecturers and the person responsible for the course. The lectures were on very different levels and sometimes they repeated thing we had allready learnt. The exam didn"t correspond to the content from the lectures and wasn"t well written at all. E.g. the first exan contained two questions that were the same. This is not OK when students are actually putting down a lot of time on studying this subject and the examinatir can"t even care to read through the exam.»
- 1.previous questions should be given in the handouts. 2.During correcting wrong answer should be marked and my have little explanation .»

16. Additional comments

- its ok understanebel foe every person»
- The course credit seemed really low! 7.5 is not enough according to me.»
- Why have to make both part on reexam if not passed just one?»
- great course»
- A live performance from mr. Ralph Peeker and Snowstorm would be great to incluce in the course.»
- I understand that different doctors are specialized in diferent areas, but if it had been fewer lecturers teaching more classes, it would have been easier to keep a red thread through the whole course.»
- We have already had handouts from some lecturers, it will be excellent if all of the lecturers upload their handouts in the home page.»

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