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Industrial energy systems, KVM013

Status: Avslutad
Öppen för svar: 2010-12-06 - 2011-01-03
Antal svar: 42
Procent av deltagarna som svarat: 46%
Kontaktperson: Valborg Ekman»
Utbildningsprogram som genomför enkäten: Elektroteknik 300 hp


Your own effort

1. How many hours per week did you spend on this course?

We mean total time, that is, it comprises the time you spent in class and the time you spent on your own work. Try to estimate the average time over the entire study period.

42 svarande

At most 15 hours/week»13 30%
Around 20 hours/week»14 33%
Around 25 hours/week»5 11%
Around 30 hours/week»6 14%
At least 35 hours/week»4 9%

Genomsnitt: 2.38

- Mostly done the projects» (At most 15 hours/week)

2. How large part of the teaching offered did you attend?

42 svarande

0%»0 0%
25%»4 9%
50%»6 14%
75%»18 42%
100%»14 33%

Genomsnitt: 4

- Lectures often at the same hours as another course I took (technical change and the environment)» (25%)

3. Do you consider that you had sufficient knowledge to read this course?

42 svarande

Yes, absolutely»30 71%
In part but I struggled In places»11 26%
No»1 2%

Genomsnitt: 1.3

- My background is the chemical engineering program. I felt that I was a bit too over qualified. The course should be given at a higher level. More deeper knowledge of pinch analysis och integration techniques! Much more...» (Yes, absolutely)
- For me it was not so much new information. too much repetition of old knowledge.» (Yes, absolutely)
- To much chemestry, lacked knowledge about pulp mils etc» (In part but I struggled In places)
- Some parts are hard when you lack chemical background. The lecture for non-chemists are not enough.» (In part but I struggled In places)


Goals and goal fulfilment

The course syllabus states the course goals in terms of learning outcomes, i.e., knowledge, skills and attitudes to be acquired by the student during the course.

4. How understandable are the learning outcomes?

42 svarande

I have not seen/read the goals»10 23%
The goals are difficult to understand»0 0%
The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer»10 23%
The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn»22 52%

Genomsnitt: 3.04 (bidrar till totalt genomsnitt/jämförelseindex)

- i"ve just read a few of them» (I have not seen/read the goals)

5. Are the goals reasonable considering your background and the number of credits?

Answer this this question and the succeeding one, only if you do know the course goals.

36 svarande

No, the goals are set too low»1 2%
Yes, the goals seem reasonable»31 86%
No, the goals are set too high»4 11%

Genomsnitt: 2.08

- I have studied at chemical engineering chalmers and we halve already covered all the material that was given about the HX and energy equipment. What was new was how we used pinch analysis and the GCC togheter with economics and choice of mix technology. All this should be given a deeper and more advanced coverage.» (No, the goals are set too low)
- may be a bit to low» (Yes, the goals seem reasonable)

6. Did the examination assess whether you have reached the goals?

35 svarande

No, not at all»3 8%
To some extent»19 54%
Yes, definitely»6 17%
I don"t know/have not been examined yet»7 20%

Genomsnitt: 2.48

- The exam was too theoretical and did not test my knowledge in several important topics (e.g. heat pumps, load duration curves)» (No, not at all)
- In lectures we were not shown all the materials asked in the exam.( They were so much easier, while in the exam...) There were so many things we were supposed to memorize or learn from other outschool material. There were hours where we could exercise but not enough to understand the courses goals. » (No, not at all)
- More non standard and more complex calculations should be given.» (To some extent)
- The question at the exam where a little bit surprising and for some of them I didn"t which answer you expect...» (To some extent)
- More specific theoretical questions would be more fair to everyone. not just explain a method for determine economic in a process. divide it into subquestions then you test what we know and not how we can remember and retell all information in the course.» (To some extent)
- I honestly do not know how I did on the exam. The questions were unclear at times and quite different from the projects we did in the course. I have spoken to several classmates and they all feel the same. I feel the exam questions should relate more to the projects than they did and that the theory questions should be clearer.» (To some extent)
- Really good examination. The right focus on understanding, not only learning the methods.» (Yes, definitely)
Genomsnitt totalt för detta stycke: 3.04


Teaching and course administration

7. To what extent has the teaching been of help for your learning?

42 svarande

Small extent»4 9%
Some extent»15 35%
Large extent»17 40%
Great extent»6 14%

Genomsnitt: 2.59

- Have not attended many lectures» (Small extent)
- The projects made with the TA were very useful and the TA was really helpful but the lectures with teachers were difficult to follow...» (Small extent)
- I could not attend to much of the teaching because of my scedule, that"s way.» (Some extent)
- I did not attent a lot of lectures but that is because I prefer to learn by reading rather than listening.» (Some extent)
- Tore 4TW!!» (Great extent)
- Good lectures and good help at projects.» (Great extent)

8. To what extent has the the course literature and other material been of help for your learning?

42 svarande

Small extent»2 4%
Some extent»6 14%
Large extent»24 57%
Great extent»10 23%

Genomsnitt: 3

- Have not read much.» (Small extent)
- The literature can be largely improved if the figures are shown in the same page as named. The way they are now is quite frustrating and comfusing.» (Large extent)
- Good litterature! But, some more examples from calculation could be useful.» (Great extent)

9. Did you find Powerpoint presentations to be helpful?

42 svarande

Small extent»7 16%
Some extent»19 45%
Large extent»10 23%
Great extent»6 14%

Genomsnitt: 2.35

- use blackboards insteed.» (Small extent)
- In my opinion there were too many lectures compared to the course material. The lectures could easily be shortened and some of them felt like they only added incremental more knowledge.» (Some extent)
- Mostly, they were just the same as the book.» (Some extent)
- They could have gone into more detail. Also not particularly much information was presented. A two hour lecture could in most cases have been condensed to one hour.» (Some extent)

10. How well did the course administration, web page, handouts etc work?

42 svarande

Very badly»0 0%
Rather badly»0 0%
Rather well»20 47%
Very well»22 52%

Genomsnitt: 3.52

- The new studentportal is worthless, because it doesn"t work all the time. But it"s not your fault» (Very well)
- Not a single problem, always material in time and everything clearly communicated.» (Very well)
- The course wadministration was very efficient.» (Very well)

11. What was your overall impression of the lectures?

42 svarande

Excellent»3 7%
Good»25 59%
Moderate»12 28%
Poor»2 4%

Genomsnitt: 2.3

- One teacher tended to be quite difficult (boring) to follow and the students showed that by not staying in clas.» (Moderate)
- Too little in depth material.» (Moderate)

12. What did you think of the industrial laboratory at Renova?

42 svarande

Very interesting»21 50%
Good but could be Improved»20 47%
Not Interesting»1 2%

Genomsnitt: 1.52

- Hanna was very helpful and friendly made a good job and motivated us. However i felt that the person who presented the facility at renova could have tried to look up the english phrases for the different unit operations and facilities at the plant. » (Very interesting)
- A bit frustrating that we had to sitt in a cold corridor, by a small table and go through quite tedius calculations.» (Very interesting)
- I liked the fact that it was sort of a study visit combined with the lab.» (Very interesting)
- The walk was done in a hurry» (Good but could be Improved)
- Some of the calculations were not that useful for learning.» (Good but could be Improved)
- Better to have the seminar on chalmers insteed. Because we run throw the plant. » (Good but could be Improved)
- due to other visits, the guided tour was very rushed. it would be interesting to be able to take some more time in the actual process environment» (Good but could be Improved)

13. Do you consider that any of the project exercises were irrelevant for the course?Please specify

Please state clearly which project you comment refers to. Start your comment as follows: "PXXX was not relevant because..."

- All of them are relevant»
- No»
- I think 7 projects was one too many, would have been nice if the last week was only meant to catch up on those I had return to do. Skip P4 next time is my suggestion.»
- They were all relevant and one feels that much time has been put into them. But for the more motivated student I felt that there was really not enough hard and challenging tasks in the course. You should to every week add one or two demanding non compulsory tasks. That would make the course even more fun. »
- All the project were relevant»
- Useful and interesting, but not so related with the final exam.»
- none»
- No, they were all relevant. But especially at the projects where ProPi was used, it was very diffucult to get help since everyone needed a lot of help. More assistants and additional classrooms perhaps?»
- No»
- I have to say that they all seemed pretty relevant, even though they were for the most part too easy.»
- I think all projects were relevant for the course.»

14. The project exercises are obligatory to help you study on time and to help you work through all parts of the course.

What would be the best way to help you achieve this?

42 svarande

To keep the project exercises as obligatory»21 50%
Approved project exercises yield bonus points at the exam»18 42%
All project exercises must be submitted before the exam»3 7%
Other (please specify)»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.57

- It was a good way for me to learn the course, but the exam did not reflect the project the way you said it would.» (To keep the project exercises as obligatory)
- The exercises were the best part of the course.» (To keep the project exercises as obligatory)
- after the exam, i feel that the projects were very relevant, but it might have been useful with some shorter excercise questions for more practice. » (To keep the project exercises as obligatory)
- I personally think 7 obligatory projects are two much. I spent many hours on report writing, which I really dont think should be necessary. Maybe make it obligatory to have 5 of 7 approved, and the last two give extra points?» (Approved project exercises yield bonus points at the exam)
- I think the best way is to both have them obligatory, and bonus points if the are approved in time before the before the exam. If they MUST be submitted before the exam it"s easier to give up and just quit the course if something goes wrong in the end when you"re already stressed out for the exams.» (Approved project exercises yield bonus points at the exam)
- I do not understand why we could not choose the project groups ourselves. Me and my two friends all ended up in different groups so we all sat alone working, since most other people had someone they knew in their group. I prefer working together with people so I"d very much prefer to have chosen group myself.» (Approved project exercises yield bonus points at the exam)
- the projects might be good for further work, but i would rather see that there where many small exercises that would prepare you better the the examination, than large exercises where a computer in most cases is essential» (Approved project exercises yield bonus points at the exam)


Teaching staff and guest lecturers

15. Please rate Thore Berntsson´,s lectures

38 svarande

Excellent»10 26%
Good»22 57%
Moderate»6 15%
Poor»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.89

16. Please rate Lennart Elmeroth´,s lectures

41 svarande

Excellent»4 9%
Good»17 41%
Moderate»13 31%
Poor»7 17%

Genomsnitt: 2.56

- Tend to not care when people asks questions. If someone asks something, he wants a better answer than "Well... I showed that on a previous slide, so I wont do it again". So, want there is a question, please try to explain a bit extra.» (Moderate)
- A bit slow sometimes.» (Moderate)

17. Please rate Simon Harvey´,s lectures

40 svarande

Excellent»11 27%
Good»24 60%
Moderate»5 12%
Poor»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.85

18. Please rate Lia Detterfelt´,s lectures (Renova)

38 svarande

Excellent»7 18%
Good»25 65%
Moderate»6 15%
Poor»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.97

19. Please rate Per-Åke Franck`s guest lecture (CIT IE)

33 svarande

Excellent»4 12%
Good»25 75%
Moderate»4 12%
Poor»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 2

- I did not attend.» (?)

20. Please rate Jonas Sjöblom as exercise tutor

38 svarande

Excellent»6 15%
Good»13 34%
Moderate»2 5%
Poor»0 0%
Not relevant (I had a different tutor)»17 44%

Genomsnitt: 3.23

- I felt that Jonas sometimes failed some of my project exercises when he should not. It is not necessary to fail when not enough significant figures, or miscalculations but logically correct solutions. This leads to much waste of time. However I feel that he was really helpful and friendly and did an excellet job otherwise.» (Excellent)
- He was really good at explaining and caring about me learning the course. The only bad thing was that he gave returns with comments that were hard to understand.» (Good)
- he where good at teaching, but compared to other tutors he was much harder in the correcting» (Good)

21. Please rate Valeria Mora as exercise tutor

35 svarande

Excellent»8 22%
Good»5 14%
Moderate»2 5%
Poor»0 0%
Not relevant (I had a different tutor)»20 57%

Genomsnitt: 3.54

- I sometimes had problems to understand the explanations, it didn"t help me much.» (Moderate)

22. Please rate Rickard Fornell as exercise tutor

33 svarande

Excellent»8 24%
Good»6 18%
Moderate»1 3%
Poor»0 0%
Not relevant (I had a different tutor)»18 54%

Genomsnitt: 3.42

- excercises was corrected fast! » (Excellent)

23. Please rate Hanna Ljungstedt as exercise tutor

27 svarande

Excellent»3 11%
Good»19 70%
Moderate»5 18%
Poor»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 2.07

- Hard to say, there were not much time to get help on the laboration.» (Moderate)


Study climate

24. How were the opportunities for asking questions and getting help?

41 svarande

Very poor»0 0%
Rather poor»2 4%
Rather good»23 56%
Very good»13 31%
I did not seek help»3 7%

Genomsnitt: 3.41

- They were very helpful, but the project exercise classes were too crwoded and there was not enought time for all the students to respond.» (?)
- To many students in each project group! A lot of time was spent just waiting for assistance from Jonas (who tried his best).» (Rather poor)
- Too big groups! It could take half the lesson to get help...» (Rather poor)
- there were sometimes rather long waits for help during the projects, but when the help arrived it was relvant and useful» (Rather good)
- Not as much at the renova laboratory though.» (Very good)

25. How well has cooperation between you and your fellow students worked?

42 svarande

Very poorly»0 0%
Rather poorly»3 7%
Rather well»13 30%
Very well»25 59%
I did not seek cooperation»1 2%

Genomsnitt: 3.57

- Would have prefered to chose project group myself.» (Rather poorly)
- Except for at the project exercises.» (Very well)

26. How was the course workload?

42 svarande

Too low»2 4%
Low»3 7%
Adequate»26 61%
High»10 23%
Too high»1 2%

Genomsnitt: 3.11

- Honestly, more material could be covered. Perhaps not another exercise but more extensive ones.» (Low)
- To much work in the end, the last week was full of projects and of course the same in all courses, it would be better if one of the last projects were moved.» (Adequate)
- One hard obligatory project each week and then an even harder exam.» (High)

27. How was the total workload this study period?

42 svarande

Too low»0 0%
Low»1 2%
Adequate»24 57%
High»15 35%
Too high»2 4%

Genomsnitt: 3.42

- But I took three courses.» (High)
- With focus on the last week, with many projects and hand ins in all courses.» (High)


Summarizing questions

28. What is your general impression of the course?

41 svarande

Poor»0 0%
Fair»3 7%
Adequate»7 17%
Good»25 60%
Excellent»6 14%

Genomsnitt: 3.82

- I think the material covered is very relevant for the master"s program, but more could have been covered.» (Adequate)
- Needs more deeper and challenging aspects. Deeper about pinch analysis, process ecnomics etc!» (Good)
- Good but should be more focused on small-scale lectures like the project exercises. » (Good)
- As a course is very helpful for my master. » (Excellent)

29. What should definitely be preserved to next year?

- It is neccessary to preserved all because all things are very good.»
- The projects and renova visit»
- Project exercises. RENOVA visit.»
- Lab at Renova»
- Sometimes maybe in our exercises, one teacher is really not enough to provide the help.»
- Litterature and structure, very well done and communicated. The structure of the examination, with understanding and using knowledge more important than heavy calculations.»
- offer course twice a year»
- I think every topic was neccessary. »
- The projects.»
- Enough time to study for the exams !!!!!!!»
- The project exercises.»
- The project excersises were excelent.»
- The exercises.»
- project exercise»
- project exercise classes are very effective for learning course objectives and are very good to be preserved.»

30. What should definitely be changed to next year?

- We have a lot of projects and I think we should offer more time for the projects.»
- The exam should have been more practical so that we would show that we acctually can perform pinch analysis and know how to make calculations on heat pumps and energy systems. Also skip one project.»
- 1. Deeper and more challenging course material! 2. Extend with non compulsory more challenging tasks 3. Give some really challenging tasks at the exam so one can differentiate people more on the result. »
- The lectures, they could cover more material.»
- Another group for the assignments and possibility to choose group.»
- Planning of the last week if possible.»
- offer course in spring as well»
- No project execise in week 7, please.»
- Maybe more course material can be added and the compendium was very well organized still , it was too unattractive to be read.»
- Let people choose groups themselves.»
- See comment above!»
- Try to focus lectures on "less theoretical" lessons (maybe more cultural facts on cogeneration, economics, ...) and keep the project exercises for this purpose.»
- Just some refinement over the excersises and mainly the book.»
- More in depth lectures.»
- I think lecture powerpoints should be more complete and effective,since they are summarized and more accessible, in many cases they could be used as main source for studying the course.»

31. Additional comments

- Good course, bad exam.»
- I dont think the exam layout is good enough. There are five questions and you need 50% points to pass. To make it more fair there should be more questions with less points each, to test a larger part of the course. As it is now it is a lot of gambling. If you are lucky (and get the right questions) you get a 5, if you are unlucky you fail. The knowledge you have, not the questions on the exam, should decide what grade you get.»
- I am really satisfied with the staff on the course and I felt that everyone really wanted to help and teach. Thanks for a on the whole good course!»
- none»
- Thank you for this course. I"ve learnt a lot though the examination this time was quite odd and different compared to the previous exams. Please take that into account when evaluating the exam! ,)»

Genomsnitt totalt för alla frågor: 3.04
Beräknat jämförelseindex: 0.68


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