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Matematisk statistik, TMS061

Status: Avslutad
Öppen för svar: 2010-06-04 - 2010-09-10
Antal svar: 97
Procent av deltagarna som svarat: 47%
Kontaktperson: Mikael Enelund»
Utbildningsprogram som genomför enkäten: Chalmers
Utbildningsprogram studenten tillhör: Maskinteknik 300 hp


Your own effort

1. How many hours per week did you spend on this course?

We mean total time, that is, it comprises the time you spent in class and the time you spent on your own work. Try to estimate the average time over the entire study period.

97 svarande

At most 15 hours/week»48 49%
Around 20 hours/week»29 29%
Around 25 hours/week»19 19%
Around 30 hours/week»1 1%
At least 35 hours/week»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.72

- » (At most 15 hours/week)
- 5 hours total: 2 in class, 2 in vle and 1 doing the test.» (At most 15 hours/week)
- The VLE-system encourage us to do all the chapters» (Around 20 hours/week)

2. How large part of the teaching offered did you attend?

96 svarande

0%»12 12%
25%»35 36%
50%»21 21%
75%»21 21%
100%»7 7%

Genomsnitt: 2.75

- The pdf and vle are great» (0%)
- I went to a few in the beginning of the course and they were good, but you didn"t need them to pass the course since all the material could be found on VLE.» (0%)
- The lectures were unnecessary since most of it stood in the written material.» (0%)
- The well written study guide was enough» (25%)
- Did most of the study alone in VLE.» (25%)
- I went on three whole lectures and two half. » (25%)
- övningarna var bra!» (50%)
- 50% of the lectures» (50%)
- All lectures but none of the instances with a teaching assistant.» (75%)
- Only lectures.» (75%)


Goals and goal fulfilment

The course syllabus given by the Course Poster gave the course goals in terms of learning outcomes to be acquired by the student during the course.

3. Are the goals reasonable considering your background and the number of credits?

Answer this this question and the succeeding one, only if you do know the course goals.

83 svarande

No, the goals are set too low»11 13%
Yes, the goals seem reasonable»72 86%
No, the goals are set too high»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.86

- There wasn"t one» (?)
- It´,s too easy to get high grades» (No, the goals are set too low)
- Det fanns inga lärmål innan kursen startade.» (No, the goals are set too low)
- Målen verkar vara ok. Men med VLE och alla hjälpmeddel är det lite för lätt att nå målen.» (Yes, the goals seem reasonable)
- The course didn"t have a course poster. » (Yes, the goals seem reasonable)

4. Did the examination (quizzies, final exam and project report) assess whether you have reached the goals?

85 svarande

No, not at all»3 3%
To some extent»32 37%
Yes, definitely»48 56%
I don"t know/have not been examined yet»2 2%

Genomsnitt: 2.57

- Bara systemfrågor, gick utan problem att få 5:a utan att man förstått hur tillämpningarna fungerar.» (No, not at all)
- I only learnt a lot of matlabcommands, and have not learnt all the theory behind.» (No, not at all)
- Det fanns inget i examinationen som mätte ifall man förstått vad man faktiskt sysslade med. Samtidigt kunde ett slarvfel göra att man missade alla poäng på en uppgift» (No, not at all)
- Not that much theoretical questions.» (To some extent)
- You did learn the methods, but maybe sometimes there was lack of understanding of them.» (To some extent)
- more theory testing is needed... » (To some extent)
- It is very difficult to learn stastistics in this way since most of the course was about to learn how to use matlab.» (To some extent)
- as said, there wasn"t any real syllabus, but the goals was described in the VLE» (Yes, definitely)
- Det fanns inga lärmål innan kursen startade.» (I don"t know/have not been examined yet)
- I don"t know because the course didn"t have a course poster so i don"t know what the goals were. » (I don"t know/have not been examined yet)


Teaching and course administration

5. To what extent has the teaching been of help for your learning?

97 svarande

Small extent»43 44%
Some extent»38 39%
Large extent»14 14%
Great extent»2 2%

Genomsnitt: 1.74

- Read the pdf"s on VLE» (Small extent)
- When I needed help I didn"t get it. » (Small extent)
- I thought they were great to get more understanding» (Large extent)

6. To what extent has the the VLE (Virtuell Learning Environment) supported your learning of Mathematical statisitics?

97 svarande

Small extent»1 1%
Some extent»8 8%
Large extent»28 28%
Great extent»60 61%

Genomsnitt: 3.51

- The question with real dataset were great but the mass question was not as good.» (Some extent)
- It"s to easy to get the highest grade without knowing anything, just read the hint and make a Matlab program with the presented formula.» (Some extent)
- Mostly I learned how to take shortcuts using matlab. But I don"t know the stastistics theory behind.» (Some extent)
- VLE did not have any questions about understading. Such questions would have helped students to get a deeper knowledge. » (Large extent)
- Incredible tool. All tough until next year, all questions has to be correct. If it is true, what is said about todays students using trial and error methods, then it is quite obvious that if questions are wrong, so will the learning in that part. » (Large extent)
- The VLE offered a very strctured and easy way of learning.» (Great extent)
- Really well-designed program» (Great extent)
- I think it is a very good way of learning.» (Great extent)
- Best system ever! Stick to it! Never before have I made over 300 assignments in a single course.» (Great extent)
- This was really great!» (Great extent)

7. Are you satisfied with project?

96 svarande

no, not at all»1 1%
no»6 6%
somewhat»32 33%
yes»45 46%
yes definitely»12 12%

Genomsnitt: 3.63

- The project was to complicated and the instructions could be way better» (no)
- We had to wait most of the project time because the needed knowledge was covered in the very last chapters. Also, the exponential distribution was not covered in the study guide.» (no)
- The groups were randomly put together and this was a problem due to the kandidat project. The kandidat project was more importat and time consuming, It was diffcult finding time for he matstat project when everyone had diffrent scheduels.» (somewhat)
- Själva projektet var bra men jag kände att vi saknade djupare förståelse för ämnet vilket gjorde att man bara löste uppgifterna utan att riktigt förstå vad man har gjort. Så var ofta fallet med uppgifterna i VLE.» (somewhat)
- Finns fördelar med att bli ihoplottade i grupper men under en period med kandidatarbete är det bättre att få välja grupper själv för att det ska bli mer praktiskt. » (somewhat)
- It was a bit hard.» (somewhat)
- Was har to manage a project since everyone had a lot to do with their "kandidatarbeten"» (somewhat)
- The project only covered the last parts of the course, so it was very difficult to start working on it until the very last week. The task was very interesting though.» (somewhat)
- I were in a group that failed the project and I feel that Sergei was the only one who knew what happened then. The other were not informed. Better info! Better planing!» (somewhat)
- We were only three in my group which made it more work to close down.» (somewhat)
- Did not participate (old student)» (somewhat)
- Projektet kunde ha börjar lite tidigare i läsperioden. » (yes)
- För mycket fokus på hållf och mekanik istället för matematisk statestik.» (yes)
- The project task was good but the help from the teachers where somewhat confusing because they gave different answers to the same questions. » (yes)
- Det kunde vara mer förankrat hos övningsledarna, så dom kunde svara på frågor om det. Var lite kaos i början.» (yes)
- It was a very interesting content with respect to my education.» (yes definitely)
- The project was great. Excellent with parts both from the mathematics course and other mechanical engineering subjects! » (yes definitely)
- Forced you to take an extra look in the study guide.» (yes definitely)

8. How well did the course administration and web page work?

95 svarande

Very badly»2 2%
Rather badly»7 7%
Rather well»57 60%
Very well»29 30%

Genomsnitt: 3.18

- There were no information about the grades and the rules with VLE» (Very badly)
- Extremly hard to find goals, and rules to how the point system worked. That was distributed by e-mail.» (Very badly)
- There was no clear information about eg. grading and examination on the web page» (Rather badly)
- VLE had small bugs with decimals that made me go nuts until i realized that the system was wrong. Most importantly the grading system has been very hard to understand.» (Rather badly)
- except for the page breaking down during test of course» (Rather well)
- Some problems due to the fact that it is a new system at Chalmers. I recommend the system to be tried in other courses if possible.» (Rather well)
- Very difficult to get help when needed.» (Rather well)
- VLE did not work perfect since there was trouble with tests etc.» (Rather well)
- Sergei did an incredible work and really made an effort in correcting all problems. Until next year I think that a course-PM would come in handy. It"s not okay that half the class did not understand the grading system until last week in the course. » (Rather well)
- With all de the problem Sergei had with Chalmers and the licensis he did a good job.» (Rather well)
- Much mail.» (Rather well)
- e-mail response was fast.» (Very well)
- The web page was frequently updated.» (Very well)
- Mail and VLE make a powerful alliance» (Very well)

9. How well did the teaching using english work out?

The teachers native language is not english. Did that cause difficulties in understanging the lectures and exercises?

95 svarande

It caused me big problems.»2 2%
Sometimes it caused me problems.»18 18%
It did not cause me problems.»75 78%

Genomsnitt: 2.76

- Lectures in english are harder to understand, and enlish with an accent make it vorse. » (It caused me big problems.)
- One reason to why I didn"t go to the lectures is that I had to focus more to what the teacher said than on what it actually was about theoretically.» (It caused me big problems.)
- Svårigheter med att kommunicera vad som gällde med tenta och duggor och betyg från lärarens håll.» (Sometimes it caused me problems.)
- The teachers that were to help with the project had som difficulties sometimes with the language. » (Sometimes it caused me problems.)
- The problem was not the english it self but Sergeis english which is spoken with bad grammar and wordchoices that made the understanding somewhat hard sometimes.» (Sometimes it caused me problems.)
- Sergei spoke a very simple and easy to understand-English » (It did not cause me problems.)
- The only problem was the early misunderstanding about the grade system.» (It did not cause me problems.)
- The teachers were very good in English anyway.» (It did not cause me problems.)
- Great practise for the masters» (It did not cause me problems.)
- The textbook and examples could be refined in terms of English.» (It did not cause me problems.)
- However, I beleive it would have been easier in Swedish» (It did not cause me problems.)
- A good startup for the masters studies I think!» (It did not cause me problems.)
- Come on! Everything will be on english in three months.» (It did not cause me problems.)

10. Do you consider it natural tou use the computer and Matlab in Mathematical Statistics?

96 svarande

No, not at all»0 0%
No»0 0%
Yes»31 32%
Yes definetely»65 67%

Genomsnitt: 3.67

- medelvärde, standardavvikelse m.m.=väldigt naturligt» (Yes)
- But not all students do... more instructions!» (Yes)
- But always using matlab may have made it easier for the students, counting some by hand might have made us learn more» (Yes)
- Viktigt med inslag av räknande utan datorer. Eftersom man använder Matlabs egna kommandon istället för att tänka ordentligt och göra det själv...» (Yes)
- All though some more parts about the terminology would be good. That you do not get working with only numerical answers.» (Yes)
- Calculating by hand would be very extensive work» (Yes definetely)
- A great initiative!» (Yes definetely)
- Det är väl ingen som sitter och räknar statistik för hand idag? » (Yes definetely)
- Matlab is a perfect toool for statistics» (Yes definetely)
- When using stastitics in the future the computer is an obvious choice.» (Yes definetely)


Study climate

11. How were the opportunities for asking questions and getting help?

96 svarande

Very poor»4 4%
Rather poor»8 8%
Rather good»40 41%
Very good»27 28%
I did not seek help»17 17%

Genomsnitt: 3.46

- Must be improved!» (Very poor)
- De hjälpledare som fanns måste förbereda sig mer.» (Rather poor)
- The staff wasn"t good enough for the project» (Rather poor)
- One of the tutors never asked question. He rather read the question again and then left.» (Rather poor)
- One teacher was very unpleasant» (Rather good)
- The aid that didn"t speak swedish gave very poor advice and didn"t answer any questions, he just told us to "google it".» (Rather good)
- Sergi answered questions. But the other teachers that I asked were of no considerable help. » (Rather good)
- Good by e-mail. To many students at the class. » (Rather good)
- sometimes the teachers wasn"t there and if they where there they could not gelp a lot when it came to the projekt» (Rather good)
- Övningarna var bra, men projekthjälpen bestod av lärare som inte kunde svara på ens frågor.» (Rather good)
- Enough sessions I think. Though too few teachers. It was way too long waiting-time.» (Rather good)
- Not so good on the project» (Rather good)
- But the help with the project was very bad, teachers didnt know anything or they didnt understand english.» (Rather good)
- Sergei answers before you send the e-mail. =)» (Very good)

12. How well has cooperation between you and your fellow students worked?

96 svarande

Very poorly»0 0%
Rather poorly»1 1%
Rather well»17 17%
Very well»75 78%
I did not seek cooperation»3 3%

Genomsnitt: 3.83

- I think you should be able too choose who you want to work with in the project yourself, this would make it a lot easier to plan your time.» (Very well)
- Luckily I got a very good team for the project» (Very well)

13. How was the course workload?

96 svarande

Too low»5 5%
Low»25 26%
Adequate»62 64%
High»4 4%
Too high»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 2.67

- Ridiculously low» (Too low)
- It was low but that let us spend more time on the bachelor projects in turn.» (Too low)
- Kursen var alldeles för lätt, ingen ansträngning krävdes för att få bra resultat.» (Low)
- The VLE gave you the opportunity to sit with it whenever you felt like it with no start-up time whatsoever so it felt less than it was » (Adequate)

14. How was the total workload this study period?

95 svarande

Too low»1 1%
Low»3 3%
Adequate»38 40%
High»43 45%
Too high»10 10%

Genomsnitt: 3.61

- To high in the end of the term.» (Adequate)
- I took an extra course in order to gain acces to a certain master program» (High)
- High workload but not in a bad way. Since we had the final parts of the bachelor thesis, it felt just natural that it would be higher.» (High)
- Kandidatarbetet tog mycket tid.» (High)
- The workload was high due to the bachelor"s thesis!» (High)
- The diploma project took a lot of time. » (High)
- Kandidat» (High)
- The high work load was due to the bachelor thesis.» (High)
- because the bachelor project» (High)
- Had an extra mts-course on the side so it was tough this spring» (Too high)
- Too much kandidatarbete.» (Too high)


Summarizing questions

15. What is your general impression of the course?

95 svarande

Poor»3 3%
Fair»4 4%
Adequate»17 17%
Good»58 61%
Excellent»13 13%

Genomsnitt: 3.77

- Det var för låga krav, och besvärligt att få Sergei att erkänna att det var fel i rättningen i VLE.» (Poor)
- I don"t believe I have learned a lot of mathematical statistics, althoug I got the highest grade. Is was rather easy to get a high grade on the vle test without really understanding the statistics.» (Adequate)
- I know how to use matlab to get a result but I"m not always sure what it is I"m counting. I think "the book" sometimes just describes how to use matlab to get a value but not what it is I"m really counting on and what for. I like to have some more facts around it and not just the commands i matlab.» (Adequate)
- It was easy.» (Good)
- Det enda som jag kan klaga på är att trots att jag nu kommer få en femma i ämnet så känner jag inte att jag kan Matematisk statistik. Det jag har lärt mig är att lösa uppgifter i VLE utan att riktigt förstå vad jag har gjort, i alla fall förstod jag det inte så bra som jag skulle vilja. Kanske beror det på att jag inte gick på så många föreläsningar men så har jag ofta gjort. Jag läser mycket själv istället för att få en djupare förståelse men jag anser att jag inte har kunnat göra det på samma sätt här. I övrigt tycker jag att kursen har varit bra.» (Good)
- Reality-related!» (Good)
- Roligt med nytt upplägg (vle). Bra med duggor för att hänga med under kursens gång, hade varit svårt annars eftersom att kandidatarbetet toh mycket tid.» (Good)
- Excellent if problems concerning tests and course information were solved» (Good)
- it was hard to get the point system, but if a course-PM is created from the start, it"s awesome» (Excellent)
- Tyckte det var en mycket rolig kurs!» (Excellent)
- It was easy and fun to learn and you learned alot. Many students got high grades, and they deserved it, most of the students knew the material very well thanks to this way of learning.» (Excellent)
- For once I have actually learned what I was suppoused to learn due to the exercises. This course have been very very good!» (Excellent)
- Brilliant VLE!» (Excellent)
- A new way to learn, that made it interesting.» (Excellent)

16. What should definitely be preserved to next year?

- VLE»
- VLE»
- VLE»
- VLE»
- VLE»
- VLE and Matlab»
- VLE som inlärningsverktyg. Verkligen roligt med ett nytt lärosätt och det underlättade mycket då man kunde göra samma typ av uppgift flera ggr men ändå med olika siffror och svar.»
- The use of Matlab.»
- The testes»
- Weekly tests.»
- VlE works very well.»
- VLE and the examinator. Sergei was really helpful and one could ask almost anything and always get a fast answer.»
- The use of VLE.»
- VLE»
- VLE»
- the VLE was a great tool for learning statistics and I think that it should be preserved»
- Vle, if you do all the exersizes you will clear the coarse and in the mean time learn a lot»
- VLE and Sergei»
- The virtual environment»
- vle, duggorna(the tests)»
- VLE»
- The usage of MATLAB with real/generated datasets»
- The layout with using a lot of study questions and midterm exams. »
- The fact that everything is web-based made it a lot easier to study. »
- Vle»
- Sergei»
- VLE! Kul att få göra något annorlunda. Detta motiverade verkligen mig till att plugga på kursen. »
- Sergei and the other teachers. It was good that it was both english and swedish talking teachers. »
- VLE»
- VLE! Perfect way of learning this subject.»
- VLE with its Methods.»
- the VLE»
- VLE, Project, and lectures»
- VLE and Sergei»
- duggorna»
- VLE, the system with 3 tests and one exam, Sergei.»
- The three tests.»
- WRITTEN DOWN OBJECTIVES AND MORE CLEAR ABOUT THE GRADING!!!»
- The possibility to get a grade with the three tests instead of doing the exam, and to study with vle.»
- Sergei and VLE»
- The tests! It is very good to be forced to work all period. It is a strong motivation that you can get your grade from the smaller tests. »
- VLE system, tests, discussion sessions and lectures.»
- VLE!»
- VLE and Seregey!»
- VLE»
- VLE combined with the study guide.»
- VLE»
- VLE, Sergei and the way the project worked out»
- The grading system (three tests +project work)»
- VLE! Sergeis humility and reason made me love him.»
- The VLE system which was very good.»
- VLE and the tests»
- Project and the VLE based studies»
- The VLE.»
- VLE and the tests, it was really really good.»
- VLE, was a nice way to study as a brake to the uther course we have.»
- I liked that we had 3 tests and if we did good on them we didn"t have to do the final exam.»
- VLE and Sergei.»

17. What should definitely be changed to next year?

- The lessons learned from this years disastrous test-mishaps.»
- more difficult tests»
- New project!»
- Felt to easy... step it up a notch I guess»
- The overhead slides in the lessons included too much text and it differed somewhat to what the teacher was saying in words. Therefor it was sometimes pretty hard to understand what was being thaught because of the difficulty to read the slides and listen to at the same time due to the difference in content of spoken word and text»
- Switch from randomly assesing groups to studens choice»
- There should be a complement to VLE with theoretical questions.»
- The project»
- Well, the problems that have come up should be fixed by then i hope.»
-
- Mer djupgående litteratur»
- hmm...just small improvements everywhere.»
- VLE måste fungera bättre (fel i skriptet måste rättas till). Rättssäkerheten måste förbättras (identifiering vid duggorna, arkivering av duggorna så att examinatorn inte kan ändra i frågan i efterhand).»
- Course-PM»
- Improve the robustness of the tests»
- the teachers knowing more about the projekt»
- The statistical functions in Matlab should be improved.»
- Less typed questions. More questions about the underlying theory.»
- Not only use the computer for all exercises, then you sometimes only learn the commands and do not think what is behind them...»
- The terms of examination should be made clear before the course has started»
- More theoretical questions on the exams. Not just calculations using MATLAB. »
- Examinationen»
- Betygsystemet var kanske lite konstigt. Bör nog ses över så att allt står klart och tydligt. Men förstår att det strular lite när det bar första gången som kursen gick. »
- The course should have a course poster. »
- Grupper för projektet bör få väljas själv»
- Better informed helpteatchers and more time for asking questions. This year this worked poorly since those few helptimes timetabled had to be used for the project only - and did not even cover that!»
- Ett kurs-PM måste finnas till nästa år med klara regler vad som gäller kring poäng, duggor, projekt, tenta m.m.»
- A more stable VLE and Matlab running.»
- Klarare regler för vad som gäller för test, projekt och tenta. Det var lite rörigt ibland men det är förståeligt eftersom det var första året. »
- betygsättningen - lite för lätt att inte misslyckas.»
- Sergei e-mailed students who hadn"t started doing the questions on VLE, though I don"t mind that, I belive some people don"t like the feeling of being watched.»
- better corse litterature or lectures in swedish»
- The big problem with the course is that it turns people into matstat machines, we learn to do things one way on the vle and then we do the same thing in the test. There is no creative problem solving and very little variation in excersises. No wonder results are good, but did we really learn anything?»
- This course teaches you to do things the right way, but you may NOT know exactly what you"re doing. Since everything is done on the computer, the understanding of the subject can still be quite low.»
- Clearance regarding the grading system!»
- maybe a possibility for the examinator to see your calculations in matlab and not just the answer, because then you could get som credits for doing the right type och calculations but maybe entered the wrong digits by mistake and then get the wrong answer.»
- The diffyculties with the points and grading system. It is way too complicated.»
- Maybe the test-time. If would be great if it could be in 2 h instead of 1 h. »
- some questions about understanding the statistics»
- Maybe skip the lectures and only have information lectures about things in the course.»
- Frågor med en mix av allt som ingick i kursen istället för att enbart ha frågor för varje enskilt kapitel.»
- The way tests are taken. Breaks are needed between tests, IDs should be checked every time, people outside the course should not be able to enter the rooms and making a mess without test watch telling them to at least be quite. »
- The assistants must be more prepared on the project. Maybe by being ready with good reading recommendations.»
- The project should be deleted it was no good.»
- Remove mr Muratov, he just sat there with his ipod and did not help. Mr. Isaksson and Ms. Jauhiainen was very helpful and did a good job! »
- A course memo, new design of the examination with the tests and final exam.»
- The course PM - get one! Better info. regarding the project.»
- Bether asistens from under the helpsections, the helper were not familiar with the questions. The prodjekt was a good ide but the questions where not right in the time, withch mean they were not in sync with the lecture.»
- I don"t think we need lectures in the future.»
- The tests should be more tested before "the real deal", but this was afterall the first year, so acceptable.»
- A better book, with more fact and not just commands i matlab.»

18. Additional comments

- none»
-
- Good course! Nice exam!»
- Det här var den enda kursen under hela grundutbildningen som inte höll den nivå man förväntar sig av Chalmers.»
- Not really sure it gives the same understanding of the subject when you can use "trial and error" to answer the study questions.»
- looks like it could be a very good course all the problems we had where not sergeis fault and he always solved it to our benefitting. Really good consept doing something diffrent from all the other courses! »
- Tack Sergei för en intressant kurs och en mycket spännande inlärningsmetod som jag är positiv till!»
- Helped a guy with Ma B and with his knowledge from that course, he would have reach surprisingly long in this course I think. But with the Bachelors thesis in mind, I like the amount of time that has to be spent.»
- Interesting and fun to try new types of learning methods. Very good that the tasks can be rerunned as many times as you want with different versions every time.»
- Is it possible to take the tests and exam from outside the school, then maybe it would be better to make sure everyone takes the exam at school, maybe using identifiction, otherwise it would be too easy to cheat, using your computer at home and work together wth friends.»
- My objective opinion is that the results from this course should be deleted, and we"d have to take it again. My opinion as a student of this course is of course another.»
- Until next year. Make sure that the assistants at least have read the project description before coming to help sessions. This time they knew as little as we!»
- no»
- I hope that you continue to develop this corse, becasue I think that it"s very good with a non traditional course since there is a lot of ways to learn, not just the traditional.»


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