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Sound and Vibration Measurements 2009

Status: Avslutad
Öppen för svar: 2010-01-23 - 2010-02-15
Antal svar: 10
Procent av deltagarna som svarat: 40%
Kontaktperson: Wolfgang Kropp»


Your own effort

1. How many hours per week did you spend on this course?

We mean total time, that is, it comprises the time you spent in class and the time you spent on your own work. Try to estimate the average time over the entire study period.

10 svarande

At most 15 hours/week»1 10%
Around 20 hours/week»5 50%
Around 25 hours/week»3 30%
Around 30 hours/week»0 0%
At least 35 hours/week»1 10%

Genomsnitt: 2.5

- The reports takes a lot of time..» (Around 25 hours/week)

2. How large part of the lectures offered did you attend?

10 svarande

0%»0 0%
25%»0 0%
50%»0 0%
75%»0 0%
100%»10 100%

Genomsnitt: 5


Goals and goal fulfilment

The course syllabus (see http://www.student.chalmers.se/sp/course?course_id=12144 ) states the course goals in terms of learning outcomes, i.e., knowledge, skills and attitudes to be acquired by the student during the course.

3. To what extent do you feel you have acquired the knowledge, skills and attitudes stated in the learning outcomes?

10 svarande

Small extent»0 0%
Some extent»0 0%
Large extent»6 60%
Great extent»4 40%

Genomsnitt: 3.4

- The workload Astrid had with Lab 6 and the TA1 assignments resulted in us not getting feedback untill after christmas. This lead to no second, revised edition of the lab report being submitted.» (Great extent)

4. Are the goals reasonable considering your background and the number of credits?

10 svarande

No, the goals are set too low»0 0%
Yes, the goals seem reasonable»9 90%
No, the goals are set too high»1 10%

Genomsnitt: 2.1

- The grading system is not transparent enough!» (No, the goals are set too high)

5. Did the examination assess whether you have reached the goals?

10 svarande

No, not at all»0 0%
To some extent»4 40%
Yes, definitely»6 60%
I don"t know/have not been examined yet»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 2.6

- Different assistants had some difference in how they wanted a report to look like. For example some wanted us to include what we have learned and others did not think that was appropriate in a report.» (To some extent)


Teaching and course administration

6. To what extent have the lectures been of help for your learning?

10 svarande

Small extent»1 10%
Some extent»5 50%
Large extent»4 40%
Great extent»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 2.3

- There was very little theoretical information to the labs.» (Some extent)

7. How was the presentation speed in the lectures?

10 svarande

much too slow»0 0%
a bit too slow»2 20%
adequate»7 70%
a bit too fast»1 10%
much too fast»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 2.9

8. To what extent have the lecture notes been of help for your learning?

10 svarande

Small extent»1 10%
Some extent»5 50%
Large extent»4 40%
Great extent»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 2.3

9. How well did the course administration, web page, handouts etc work?

10 svarande

Very badly»0 0%
Rather badly»0 0%
Rather well»6 60%
Very well»4 40%

Genomsnitt: 3.4


Lab 1 Measurements of Sound Outdoors

10. How well did the lectures prepare you for the experimental work?

10 svarande

The lectures were essential.»3 30%
The lectures were useful.»3 30%
The lectures should have a different content/please comment»2 20%
One could have managed the experimental work without lecture»2 20%

Genomsnitt: 2.3

- The lab was very early in the semester so we had not had time to learn that much from the other courses so the lectures could be a bit more comprehensive so that it is easier to understand theory» (The lectures were useful.)
- Quite unorganized preparation lecture, worked out well in the end though.» (The lectures should have a different content/please comment)
- The standards were hard to read. They should be a part of the lecture since this is the first time we worked with ISO standards.» (The lectures should have a different content/please comment)
- The lecture was not succinct enough. There was a lot of information, but it was not organized correctly.» (One could have managed the experimental work without lecture)

11. To what extend do you feel that the lectures helped your understanding of the physical concepts investigated in the experimental work?

10 svarande

Small extent»1 10%
Some extent»6 60%
Large extent»2 20%
Great extent»1 10%

Genomsnitt: 2.3

12. How well was the lab work prepared by the supervisor?

10 svarande

It was well prepared»8 80%
There is a need for improvement / please comment»2 20%

Genomsnitt: 1.2

- As mentioned, quite unorganized lecture. Equipment and set-up where fine!» (There is a need for improvement / please comment)
- theory must be more clear» (There is a need for improvement / please comment)

13. How helpful was the supervision?

10 svarande

very helpful»6 60%
moderatly helpful»3 30%
not helpful at all»1 10%

Genomsnitt: 1.5

14. How did you percieve the correction of the report?

10 svarande

too demanding»0 0%
adequate»9 90%
not demanding enough»0 0%
not relevant»1 10%

Genomsnitt: 2.2


Lab 2 Sound Power Measurements

15. How well did the lectures prepare you for the experimental work?

10 svarande

The lectures were essential.»1 10%
The lectures were useful.»6 60%
The lectures should have a different content/please comment»3 30%
One could have managed the experimental work without lecture»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 2.2

- Well more explanation would be nice. The introduction only take 45 minutes so there is enough space for doing things more in detail. Sound power is a interesting and important element of the acoustics!» (The lectures should have a different content/please comment)
- The standards were hard to read. They should be a part of the lecture since this was the second time we worked with ISO standards.» (The lectures should have a different content/please comment)
- The lecture was not succinct enough. There was a lot of information, but it was not organized correctly.» (The lectures should have a different content/please comment)

16. To what extend do you feel that the lectures helped your understanding of the physical concepts investigated in the experimental work?

10 svarande

Small extent»1 10%
Some extent»6 60%
Large extent»3 30%
Great extent»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 2.2

- Compared what we should have known in the report the lecture / introduction was very bad. » (Small extent)

17. How well was the lab work prepared by the supervisor?

10 svarande

It was well prepared»9 90%
There is a need for improvement / please comment»1 10%

Genomsnitt: 1.1

- Some of the equipment could use some upgrade. For example writing measurement data from photographs because digital transfer did not work was a bit annoying.» (It was well prepared)
- Only taking a photo of the measurement data is a little bit funny ... but it is really boring !» (There is a need for improvement / please comment)

18. How helpful was the supervision?

10 svarande

very helpful»3 30%
moderatly helpful»6 60%
not helpful at all»1 10%

Genomsnitt: 1.8

- I had the impression we are only there to measure and should leave then. Asking questions or getting more in detail felt me a little bit unwanted!» (not helpful at all)

19. How did you percieve the correction of the report?

10 svarande

too demanding»4 40%
adequate»5 50%
not demanding enough»1 10%
not relevant»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.7

- Even today i do not understand what i should have done better ... more questions necessary?» (too demanding)


Lab 3 Sound Insulation Measurements

20. How well did the lectures prepare you for the experimental work?

10 svarande

The lectures were essential.»3 30%
The lectures were useful.»7 70%
The lectures should have a different content/please comment»0 0%
One could have managed the experimental work without lecture»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.7

- The standards were hard to read. They should be a part of the lecture since this was the third time we worked with ISO standards.» (The lectures were useful.)

21. To what extend do you feel that the lectures helped your understanding of the physical concepts investigated in the experimental work?

10 svarande

Small extent»1 10%
Some extent»6 60%
Large extent»3 30%
Great extent»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 2.2

- i still do not know anything about impact sound. very hard to write about it in the report. more theory about that before the experimental work» (Some extent)

22. How well was the lab work prepared by the supervisor?

10 svarande

It was well prepared»10 100%
There is a need for improvement / please comment»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1

23. How helpful was the supervision?

10 svarande

very helpful»6 60%
moderatly helpful»4 40%
not helpful at all»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.4

24. How did you percieve the correction of the report?

10 svarande

too demanding»0 0%
adequate»10 100%
not demanding enough»0 0%
not relevant»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 2


Lab 4 Human responses to sound

25. How well did the lectures prepare you for the experimental work?

10 svarande

The lectures were essential.»2 20%
The lectures were useful.»5 50%
The lectures should have a different content/please comment»2 20%
One could have managed the experimental work without lecture»1 10%

Genomsnitt: 2.2

- Concepts of psychology are very difficult to understand in one lecture. should have been more lectures and less literature to read» (The lectures should have a different content/please comment)
- The theory was complicated and more time could be spent explaining the details.» (The lectures should have a different content/please comment)

26. To what extend do you feel that the lectures helped your understanding of the physical concepts investigated in the experimental work?

10 svarande

Small extent»6 60%
Some extent»3 30%
Large extent»0 0%
Great extent»1 10%

Genomsnitt: 1.6

- The literature was more helpful. » (Small extent)
- Don"t be afraid to spend some time to explaine the theory.» (Small extent)

27. How well was the lab work prepared by the supervisor?

10 svarande

It was well prepared»6 60%
There is a need for improvement / please comment»4 40%

Genomsnitt: 1.4

- We prepared the listening test and some people did it really bad or did nearly nothing ... but there was no reaction ... i do not understand s.th. like this!» (There is a need for improvement / please comment)
- The texts about the methods were very hard to read and contained quite a bit of irrelevant information. A summary of the useful points would have been helpful.» (There is a need for improvement / please comment)
- More help could have been given to students to prepare for the listening test.» (There is a need for improvement / please comment)
- As said before the theory is presented too fast. It would be useful to do an exercice to alight the theory.» (There is a need for improvement / please comment)

28. How helpful was the supervision?

10 svarande

very helpful»4 40%
moderatly helpful»4 40%
not helpful at all»2 20%

Genomsnitt: 1.8

29. How did you percieve the correction of the report?

10 svarande

too demanding»1 10%
adequate»8 80%
not demanding enough»0 0%
not relevant»1 10%

Genomsnitt: 2.1

- It is nearly everything theoretical and interpretation of the supervisor. I do not know what i have done better.» (too demanding)
- Misunderstanding concerning the model used..» (not relevant)


Lab 5 Basic Vibration Measurements, Part 1: Accelerometers

30. How well did the lectures prepare you for the experimental work?

10 svarande

The lectures were essential.»6 60%
The lectures were useful.»4 40%
The lectures should have a different content/please comment»0 0%
One could have managed the experimental work without lecture»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.4

31. To what extend do you feel that the lectures helped your understanding of the physical concepts investigated in the experimental work?

10 svarande

Small extent»0 0%
Some extent»4 40%
Large extent»3 30%
Great extent»3 30%

Genomsnitt: 2.9

32. How well was the lab work prepared by the supervisor?

10 svarande

It was well prepared»10 100%
There is a need for improvement / please comment»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1

33. How helpful was the supervision?

10 svarande

very helpful»8 80%
moderatly helpful»2 20%
not helpful at all»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.2

34. How did you percieve the correction of the report?

10 svarande

too demanding»0 0%
adequate»9 90%
not demanding enough»1 10%
not relevant»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 2.1


Lab 6 Basic Vibration Measurements Part 2: Laser Doppler Vibrometer

35. How well did the lectures prepare you for the experimental work?

10 svarande

The lectures were essential.»5 50%
The lectures were useful.»4 40%
The lectures should have a different content/please comment»0 0%
One could have managed the experimental work without lecture»1 10%

Genomsnitt: 1.7

36. To what extend do you feel that the lectures helped your understanding of the physical concepts investigated in the experimental work?

10 svarande

Small extent»1 10%
Some extent»2 20%
Large extent»5 50%
Great extent»2 20%

Genomsnitt: 2.8

37. How well was the lab work prepared by the supervisor?

10 svarande

It was well prepared»8 80%
There is a need for improvement / please comment»2 20%

Genomsnitt: 1.2

- There was something wrong with the measurement station for the Laser.» (There is a need for improvement / please comment)
- The setup of the LDVM software needs to be explained better. There was also something wrong when we did the measurements so the results were bad.» (There is a need for improvement / please comment)

38. How helpful was the supervision?

10 svarande

very helpful»8 80%
moderatly helpful»2 20%
not helpful at all»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.2

39. How did you percieve the correction of the report?

10 svarande

too demanding»1 10%
adequate»9 90%
not demanding enough»0 0%
not relevant»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 1.9


Study climate

40. How were the opportunities for asking questions and getting help of the professor?

10 svarande

Very poor»0 0%
Rather poor»0 0%
Rather good»3 30%
Very good»2 20%
I did not seek help»5 50%

Genomsnitt: 4.2

41. How were the opportunities for asking questions and getting help of the course assistent?

10 svarande

Very poor»0 0%
Rather poor»0 0%
Rather good»4 40%
Very good»6 60%
I did not seek help»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 3.6

42. How well has cooperation between you and your fellow students worked?

10 svarande

Very poorly»2 20%
Rather poorly»0 0%
Rather well»0 0%
Very well»8 80%
I did not seek cooperation»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 3.4

- Some people in this course are so unmotivated, that i do not really understand why they are here or taken this program!» (Very poorly)

43. How was the course workload?

10 svarande

Too low»0 0%
Low»0 0%
Adequate»2 20%
High»7 70%
Too high»1 10%

Genomsnitt: 3.9

- But it took more time than other courses with the same amount of points.» (Adequate)
- Nearer to the end it got a little heavy, because of overlaps with other courses.» (High)
- For only 7,5 ECTS the course workload is too high!» (Too high)

44. How was the total workload this study period?

10 svarande

Too low»0 0%
Low»0 0%
Adequate»2 20%
High»7 70%
Too high»1 10%

Genomsnitt: 3.9

- Especially nearer to the end.» (High)


Summarizing questions

45. What is your general impression of the course?

10 svarande

Poor»0 0%
Fair»0 0%
Adequate»2 20%
Good»7 70%
Excellent»1 10%

Genomsnitt: 3.9

- It is a good course for people who did not handle before with acoustics. Also it is a good preparation for further practical work i.e. in the master thesis.» (Good)
- Except for the equipment issues it was very good.» (Good)

46. What should definitely be preserved to next year?

- The report feedback»
- Labs, and report correction.»
- the schedule is perfect »

47. What should definitely be changed to next year?

- The grading system in the labs 1 - 5 must be more transparent, like in the lab 6. There you see directly how many points each part of the report correction gives and where you must improve your report! »
- Not vital but some of the equipment should be exchanged.»
- Better introduction to signal processing used in lab 5. I recommend the book "fundamentals of signal processing for sound and vibration engineers" by Kihong Shin and Joseph K. Hammond.»
- Verbal presentation along with reports could be added.»
- It is very important that the theory is good explained.»

48. Additional comments

- We are students and not people working since 20 - 30 years therefore it should be ok to figure everything all out and explain all steps. Having a lot of experience makes it easy and acceptable to use assumptions or cut things. Sometime we had the feeling that the cand. phd are annoyed if we are going to much in detail or they do not understand it. Doing additional things because of interest is a good thing and shows the people motivation. In most of the time we had the feeling that doing this things was unwanted and only more workload for the supervisor (cand. phd). Sometimes nobody should forget that there are also people without any knowledge in acoustics and for them it is quite hard to figure everything out ... but from where should they know it ... they are students and here to learn it! There are labs, where the introduction seems to be lazy and in the report the supervisor wants to know things we i had the feeling .. perhaps i know these things after writing a master thesis or spend a lot of time on this issue. If it is obvious that someone spend a lot of workload on a report it should also be possible to get more then 7,5 ECTS. This is how Bologna work. 7,5 is the minimum but if it is realy obvious that someone did a lot of additional work and spend a lot of time on his work they should be able to get more ECTS ... at other universities it works like this ... »
- I missed feedback information (mainly technical information) after the second report in each lab. For example, most common errors found, general analysis of the results, etc.»


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