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Analog Integrated Circuit Design, 2008, DAT100, MPIES HT2008

Status: Avslutad
Öppen för svar: 2008-12-12 - 2009-01-24
Antal svar: 34
Procent av deltagarna som svarat: 60%
Kontaktperson: Lena Peterson»


Your background

1. My study background is:

34 svarande

Chalmers civilingenjör programme - Electrical Engineering»10 29%
Chalmers civilingenjör programme - Computer Engineering»2 5%
Chalmers civilingenjör - other programme»2 5%
Chalmers högskoleingenjör programme - Electrical Engineering»0 0%
Chalmers högskoleingenjör programme - Computer Engineering»0 0%
Chalmers högskoleingenjör - other programme»0 0%
Other Swedish civilingenjör programme»0 0%
Other Swedish högskoleingenjör programme»0 0%
Foreign university - Electrical Engineering»18 52%
Foreign university - Computer Engineering»0 0%
Foreign university - other programme»2 5%
Other (explain below)»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 6

- Electronics Engineering» (Foreign university - other programme)
- Communications Engineering (test)» (Foreign university - other programme) (den här kommentaren har blivit redigerad i efterhand)

2. I am currently enrolled in this master programme:

34 svarande

Integrated Electronic System Design»29 85%
Other Chalmers master programme»1 2%
Not enrolled in master programme»4 11%

Genomsnitt: 1.26

- Communications Engineering» (Other Chalmers master programme)

3. Did you take the course MCC090 Digital circuit design, here at Chalmers?

34 svarande

Yes, studied and passed.»30 88%
Yes, studied but has not yet passed.»2 5%
No, but I think I have studied something similar before.»1 2%
No, and I think that I did not have that entire background.»0 0%
Don"t know»1 2%

Genomsnitt: 1.23


Your own effort

4. How many hours per week did you spend on this course?

We mean total time, that is, it comprises the time you spent in class and the time you spent on your own work. Try to estimate the average time over the entire study period.

34 svarande

At most 15 hours/week»4 11%
Around 20 hours/week»9 26%
Around 25 hours/week»14 41%
Around 30 hours/week»5 14%
At least 35 hours/week»2 5%

Genomsnitt: 2.76

- i was very enthusiast about the course at beginning but the teaching style dissappointed me alot so didnt found any interest after the middle.» (At most 15 hours/week)

5. How large part of the teaching offered did you attend?

34 svarande

0%»0 0%
25%»1 2%
50%»7 20%
75%»19 55%
100%»7 20%

Genomsnitt: 3.94

- hard to understand teaching methodology.» (25%)

6. How many other courses did you take this period?

34 svarande

1 2%
25 73%
8 23%
Other (explain below)»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 2.2

- The third course was only a third of a whole course» (2)


Goals and goal fulfilment

The course syllabus states the course goals in terms of learning outcomes, i.e., knowledge, skills and attitudes to be acquired by the student during the course.

7. How understandable are the course goals?

33 svarande

I have not seen/read the goals»5 15%
The goals are difficult to understand»0 0%
The goals give some guidance, but could be clearer»10 30%
The goals clearly describe what I am supposed to learn»18 54%

Genomsnitt: 3.24

- Maybe i have but i do not remember» (I have not seen/read the goals)
- Goals are mainly meant for the teacher. To students they are useful when understanding what the course is all about, which you read before you even take the course. Now I have forgotten them.» (I have not seen/read the goals)

8. Are the goals reasonable considering your background and the number of credits?

Answer this this question and the succeeding one, only if you do know the course goals.

31 svarande

No, the goals are set too low»1 3%
Yes, the goals seem reasonable»29 93%
No, the goals are set too high»1 3%

Genomsnitt: 2

9. Did the examination, including prelabs and lab reports, assess whether you have reached the goals?

34 svarande

No, not at all»1 2%
To some extent»10 29%
Yes, definitely»20 58%
I don"t know/have not been examined yet»3 8%

Genomsnitt: 2.73

- Exam too long. Make harder instead! Also don"t like open book exams.» (Yes, definitely)


Teaching and course administration

10. To what extent has the teaching been of help for your learning?

34 svarande

Small extent»1 2%
Some extent»7 20%
Large extent»18 52%
Great extent»8 23%

Genomsnitt: 2.97

- very hard teaching methods.Too fast» (Small extent)
- Lab support is the key to learn in this course. You and the TA have offered great assistance during the labs and you took the time to answer our questions so we understood and learned. Great!» (Great extent)

11. To what extent have the lectures been of help for you learning?

34 svarande

Small extent»2 5%
Some extent»6 17%
Large extent»18 52%
Great extent»8 23%

Genomsnitt: 2.94

- The lectures were good and well-paced.» (Great extent)

12. To what extent do you agree on the following statements relating to Roger Malmberg"s (Quamcom) guest lecture?

Matrisfråga

- guest lecs are mostly general rather than course specfic.»
- Guest lectures are great - gives a second view of the material, not just what the lecturer says. However, careful coordination is required so that the guest lecturer is fully aware of what the students know and don"t know.»

Increased my understanding of analog design tradeoffs
34 svarande

Disagree fully»0 0%
Disagree somewhat»0 0%
Neutral»5 25%
Agree somewhat»10 50%
Agree fully»5 25%
Did not attend»14

Genomsnitt: 4

Showed applications of interest to me
34 svarande

Disagree fully»0 0%
Disagree somewhat»0 0%
Neutral»6 30%
Agree somewhat»10 50%
Agree fully»4 20%
Did not attend»14

Genomsnitt: 3.9

Showed interesting real design examples
34 svarande

Disagree fully»0 0%
Disagree somewhat»0 0%
Neutral»4 20%
Agree somewhat»10 50%
Agree fully»6 30%
Did not attend»14

Genomsnitt: 4.1

Was understandable to me
34 svarande

Disagree fully»0 0%
Disagree somewhat»4 20%
Neutral»3 15%
Agree somewhat»7 35%
Agree fully»6 30%
Did not attend»14

Genomsnitt: 3.75

I recommend keeping it next year
34 svarande

Disagree fully»0 0%
Disagree somewhat»0 0%
Neutral»3 15%
Agree somewhat»7 35%
Agree fully»10 50%
Did not attend»14

Genomsnitt: 4.35

13. To what extent do you agree with the following statements relating to Sven Mattisson"s (Ericsson) guest lecture?

Matrisfråga

- Interesting to see some RF applications.»
- I did not attend guest lectures becase I had a lot to do "private". If I had the time I would attend the guest lectures. I like guestlectures because they give a good perspective of what you are doing. When I realised that I could only attend about ½, of the lectures given in this course I was sad, but decided to focus on the labs instead. Dont take away the guestlectures to next year, since I intend to sneak in on them and listen to them then.»
- Interesting but hard to understand, but in this case I do not think it matters. Because this lecture will probably prevent a chock when proceeding with large analog system design in the future.»

Increased my understanding of analog design tradeoffs
34 svarande

Disagree fully»0 0%
Disagree somewhat»0 0%
Neutral»6 33%
Agree somewhat»6 33%
Agree fully»6 33%
Did not attend»16

Genomsnitt: 4

Showed applications of interest to me
34 svarande

Disagree fully»0 0%
Disagree somewhat»0 0%
Neutral»4 22%
Agree somewhat»8 44%
Agree fully»6 33%
Did not attend»16

Genomsnitt: 4.11

Showed interesting real design examples
33 svarande

Disagree fully»0 0%
Disagree somewhat»0 0%
Neutral»3 17%
Agree somewhat»5 29%
Agree fully»9 52%
Did not attend»16

Genomsnitt: 4.35

Was understandable to me
34 svarande

Disagree fully»0 0%
Disagree somewhat»1 5%
Neutral»3 16%
Agree somewhat»9 50%
Agree fully»5 27%
Did not attend»16

Genomsnitt: 4

I recommend to keeping it next year
34 svarande

Disagree fully»0 0%
Disagree somewhat»0 0%
Neutral»1 5%
Agree somewhat»9 50%
Agree fully»8 44%
Did not attend»16

Genomsnitt: 4.38

14. To what extent have the tutorials been of help for your learning?

34 svarande

Small extent»1 2%
Some extent»9 26%
Large extent»20 58%
Great extent»4 11%

Genomsnitt: 2.79

- Very necessary to get a grip of how to do the calculations.» (Large extent)
- Prof rocked!!! She taught us new ways of coping up the design problems.» (Large extent)

15. To what extent did the labs help your learning?

34 svarande

Small extent»0 0%
Some extent»6 17%
Large extent»14 41%
Great extent»14 41%

Genomsnitt: 3.23

- 90% of work due to inconsistencies in the software used vs lab pm.» (Some extent)
- Last two labs were too much guided.» (Some extent)
- Very interesting labs. This is where you could think about what you have learned and put things into context.» (Great extent)
- The key to this course is the labs and pre-labs.» (Great extent)

16. How do you rate the level of difficulty of the five labs?

Matrisfråga

- The labs were not so difficult once you got a hang of some things which became clear in the first few labs.»
- Lab 4 where hard only because you are not used to the layout tool. But dont remove it! Great lab. We had touble with the tool as well, Cadence crashed and our layout was lost.»
- Comment on lab4: Remembering the design rules was a problem. And the fact that Cadence was design by satan does not help:-)»

Lab 1 Inverter and current mirror
34 svarande

Very easy»6 17%
Somewhat easy»6 17%
Reasonable»19 55%
Somewhat hard»1 2%
Very hard»2 5%
Don"t know»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 2.61

Lab 2 Differential pair & transamp
34 svarande

Very easy»1 2%
Somewhat easy»6 17%
Reasonable»23 67%
Somewhat hard»4 11%
Very hard»0 0%
Don"t know»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 2.88

Lab 3 Design of two-stage amplifier
34 svarande

Very easy»0 0%
Somewhat easy»0 0%
Reasonable»22 64%
Somewhat hard»6 17%
Very hard»6 17%
Don"t know»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 3.52

Lab 4 Layout of two-stage amplifier
34 svarande

Very easy»1 2%
Somewhat easy»1 2%
Reasonable»18 52%
Somewhat hard»11 32%
Very hard»2 5%
Don"t know»1 2%

Genomsnitt: 3.44

Lab 5 Design of folded-cascode amplifier
34 svarande

Very easy»0 0%
Somewhat easy»2 5%
Reasonable»20 58%
Somewhat hard»11 32%
Very hard»0 0%
Don"t know»1 2%

Genomsnitt: 3.35

17. How do you rate the time the in-lab part of each lab took you?

Matrisfråga

- They could all be finished on time without problems. This was good though, because there was a little spare to sit and think through what had been done, and why.»

Lab 1 Inverter and current mirror
34 svarande

Very short»4 11%
Somewhat short»7 20%
Reasonable»19 55%
Somewhat long»4 11%
Very long»0 0%
Don"t know»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 2.67

Lab 2 Differential pair & transamp
34 svarande

Very short»1 2%
Somewhat short»4 11%
Reasonable»26 76%
Somewhat long»2 5%
Very long»1 2%
Don"t know»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 2.94

Lab 3 Design of two-stage amplifier
34 svarande

Very short»0 0%
Somewhat short»1 2%
Reasonable»23 67%
Somewhat long»9 26%
Very long»1 2%
Don"t know»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 3.29

Lab 4 Layout of two-stage amplifier
34 svarande

Very short»1 2%
Somewhat short»1 2%
Reasonable»13 38%
Somewhat long»9 26%
Very long»9 26%
Don"t know»1 2%

Genomsnitt: 3.79

Lab 5 Design of folded-cascode amplifier
33 svarande

Very short»0 0%
Somewhat short»1 3%
Reasonable»24 72%
Somewhat long»5 15%
Very long»3 9%
Don"t know»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 3.3

18. How do you rate the time the prelab took you for the different labs?

Matrisfråga

Lab 1 Inverter and current mirror
34 svarande

Very short»2 5%
Somewhat short»1 2%
Reasonable»22 64%
Somewhat long»7 20%
Very long»2 5%
Don"t know»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 3.17

Lab 2 Differential pair & transamp
33 svarande

Very short»0 0%
Somewhat short»7 21%
Reasonable»20 60%
Somewhat long»5 15%
Very long»1 3%
Don"t know»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 3

Lab 3 Design of two-stage amplifier
31 svarande

Very short»0 0%
Somewhat short»1 3%
Reasonable»14 45%
Somewhat long»9 29%
Very long»7 22%
Don"t know»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 3.7

Lab 4 Layout of amplifier (doing the layout)
31 svarande

Very short»2 6%
Somewhat short»3 9%
Reasonable»18 58%
Somewhat long»4 12%
Very long»2 6%
Don"t know»2 6%

Genomsnitt: 3.22

Lab 5 Design of folded-cascode amplifier
33 svarande

Very short»0 0%
Somewhat short»1 3%
Reasonable»21 63%
Somewhat long»7 21%
Very long»4 12%
Don"t know»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 3.42

19. To what extent do you agree with the following statement on the lab pair arrangement I made (me selecting the partner and assigning different partners labs 1-2 and labs 3-5)?

Matrisfråga

- At the end of the period, there were a lot of different groups going on as we had the Methods course at the same time. This made it kind of messy to keep track of scheduling, but manageable.»
- Was very dissapointed with my lab partners»
- Since most lab pairs did not take the same courses it was a pita to find time (outside of lab)that we booth could spend on reports and such.»
- The answers here much depend on who you work with. »
- There are always problems with assigned partners - different ambition levels etc. Perhaps add a question about this to the pre-assignment sheets? (Those sheets were a great by the way)»

It was good to get to know the other (Swedish/foreign) students in the class.
34 svarande

Disagree fully»1 2%
Disagree somewhat»1 2%
Neutral»6 17%
Agree somewhat»11 32%
Agree fully»15 44%

Genomsnitt: 4.11

It made me work harder on my prelabs
34 svarande

Disagree fully»2 5%
Disagree somewhat»6 17%
Neutral»14 41%
Agree somewhat»10 29%
Agree fully»2 5%

Genomsnitt: 3.11

It was generally easy to communicate with my lab partner
34 svarande

Disagree fully»0 0%
Disagree somewhat»4 11%
Neutral»7 20%
Agree somewhat»14 41%
Agree fully»9 26%

Genomsnitt: 3.82

The logistics of keeping track of the data after the lab was easy
34 svarande

Disagree fully»0 0%
Disagree somewhat»2 5%
Neutral»7 20%
Agree somewhat»14 41%
Agree fully»11 32%

Genomsnitt: 4

Writing the report and agreeing on what should be in there was easy
34 svarande

Disagree fully»0 0%
Disagree somewhat»2 5%
Neutral»5 14%
Agree somewhat»13 38%
Agree fully»14 41%

Genomsnitt: 4.14

I felt I learnt something about working with persons with other (ethnic or professional) background
34 svarande

Disagree fully»3 8%
Disagree somewhat»2 5%
Neutral»8 23%
Agree somewhat»12 35%
Agree fully»9 26%

Genomsnitt: 3.64

I was sometimes helped in my learning by a lab partner who knew less than I did (for example by having to explain to the partner)
34 svarande

Disagree fully»1 2%
Disagree somewhat»2 5%
Neutral»8 23%
Agree somewhat»14 41%
Agree fully»9 26%

Genomsnitt: 3.82

I was sometimes helped in my learning by a lab partner who knew more than I did.
34 svarande

Disagree fully»1 2%
Disagree somewhat»3 8%
Neutral»8 23%
Agree somewhat»18 52%
Agree fully»4 11%

Genomsnitt: 3.61

I had preferred keeping the same lab partner
34 svarande

Disagree fully»3 8%
Disagree somewhat»4 11%
Neutral»12 35%
Agree somewhat»9 26%
Agree fully»6 17%

Genomsnitt: 3.32

I had preferred being allowed to choose lab partner
34 svarande

Disagree fully»6 17%
Disagree somewhat»4 11%
Neutral»10 29%
Agree somewhat»8 23%
Agree fully»6 17%

Genomsnitt: 3.11

20. Would it be preferable to have the deadline for the prelabs for labs 3 & 5 earlier (say Monday the same week) so that you could have your prelabs back graded in time for the in-lab experiment (as a co

34 svarande

Yes»18 52%
Neutral»6 17%
No»9 26%
Don"t know»1 2%

Genomsnitt: 1.79

- If you do something wrong in your calculations, there is not possible to finish the lab in time, forcing you to do it without assistance from the teacher and TA.» (Yes)
- Would that have been enough for lab5? It"s January 11 and my prelab 5 has not been corrected yet .. ?» (Yes)
- The pre-labs should have been corrected before the lab. » (Yes)
- Both yes and no - shorter time is bad for flexibility (with other courses and personal life), so to compensate the lectures would have to be even earlier in the study period. However, going in to the lab knowing that you have a working design, that you have understood the important parts, would be helpful.» (Neutral)

21. To what extent did you experience problems, that you experienced as detrimental to your learning, in dealing with Cadence during the labs?

34 svarande

Small extent»6 17%
Some extent»19 55%
Large extent»8 23%
Great extent»1 2%

Genomsnitt: 2.11

- Cadence was fairly easy to use.» (Small extent)
- A few crashes, but not as bad as I"ve heard others have. Some problems with generating plots (both on-screen and writing to a file for the report), especially the combined magnitude-phase plots. Changing on-screen plot window size changes the resulting image size when saving as image... that was a surprise. Also, black background becomes white - I made the classic white-on-white plot mistake...» (Some extent)
- Same procedure repeated to the letter results in completely different result.» (Large extent)
- I repeat, Cadence is the work of Satan:-)» (Great extent)

22. In your opinion, would it be beneficial for the the student learning to add an additional in-lab introduction to Cadence (that would imply less teacher hours somewhere else in the course)?

33 svarande

Yes»12 36%
No»20 60%
Don"t know»1 3%

Genomsnitt: 1.66

- Maybe an optionnal introduction to Cadence.» (Yes)
- I think the labs themselves are an adequate introduction to Cadence.» (No)
- The "get to now" cadence where not the problem, the inconsistant and somewhat fuzzy lab pm where.» (No)
- I was already familiar with cadence from dicd course» (No)
- Rather improve the lab-pm. There are more important stuff to learn.» (No)
- Cadence used before in earlier courses, so it"s ok.» (No)
- didnt got the question» (Don"t know)

23. To what extent has the the course literature and other material been of help for your learning?

32 svarande

Small extent»11 34%
Some extent»7 21%
Large extent»11 34%
Great extent»3 9%

Genomsnitt: 2.18

- The book is boring and ugly, I would assume that there"s a better one on the subject.» (Small extent)
- Most of the time Razavi refers to his others books for explanation instead of explaining it.» (Small extent)
- I did not actually go so deep into the Razavi book, spent more time on slides (which were good) and on prelab assignments and such.» (Some extent)
- Slides were extremely important as well as "DAT100 Problems". The rest were unimportant. » (Great extent)
- Book not used much though.» (Great extent)

24. How well did the course administration, web page, handouts etc work?

32 svarande

Very badly»0 0%
Rather badly»0 0%
Rather well»11 34%
Very well»21 65%

Genomsnitt: 3.65

- Nice that you bring handouts to the lectures. Otherwise I would not print it due to economical factors. And printed handouts help!» (Very well)
- Handouts are perfect and very helpful both during the course and after/before the course.» (Very well)
- i think handouts should not be given, have to think on the environment. » (Very well)
- Very good with printed handouts - and in color is great for early mornings! Makes the day brighter and then it"s easier to learn.» (Very well)

25. To what extent has Ping-Pong been useful for the course web page administration?

34 svarande

Small extent»0 0%
Some extent»7 20%
Large extent»15 44%
Great extent»12 35%

Genomsnitt: 3.14

- why not use studieportalen? using different systems (studieportalen, pingpong, fire) for different courses is just annoying» (Some extent)
- Especially for hand-in grading.» (Large extent)
- Somewhat too many options to choose from in PING-PONG. A bit flimsy. Otherwise good, but confusing with 2 different systems.» (Large extent)
- I like ping pong. Easy to use.» (Great extent)
- Ping-Pong is an excellent tool.» (Great extent)
- I really like ping-pong, though it has it"s limits...» (Great extent)


Study climate

26. How were the opportunities for asking questions and getting help?

33 svarande

Very poor»0 0%
Rather poor»0 0%
Rather good»9 27%
Very good»23 69%
I did not seek help»1 3%

Genomsnitt: 3.75

- One of the best courses in this regard!» (Very good)

27. How well has cooperation between you and your fellow students worked?

33 svarande

Very poorly»0 0%
Rather poorly»2 6%
Rather well»15 45%
Very well»16 48%
I did not seek cooperation»0 0%

Genomsnitt: 3.42

28. How was the course workload?

34 svarande

Too low»0 0%
Low»2 5%
Adequate»18 52%
High»13 38%
Too high»1 2%

Genomsnitt: 3.38

- I worked alone on the prelabs and I would assume that the workload would be significantly reduced if I had teamed up with someone else.» (High)

29. How was the total workload this study period?

34 svarande

Too low»0 0%
Low»1 2%
Adequate»14 41%
High»15 44%
Too high»4 11%

Genomsnitt: 3.64

- Took only one course.» (Low)
- But I would say it is not this course fault» (High)
- The number of courses were much if we add them to workload.» (High)
- Other course caused this.» (High)


Summarizing questions

30. What is your general impression of the course?

33 svarande

Poor»0 0%
Fair»1 3%
Adequate»5 15%
Good»18 54%
Excellent»9 27%

Genomsnitt: 4.06

- I wish we had more time ( 14 weeks) so that we had 2 weeks for each lab, then the labs (such as the layout lab) could be more detailed.» (Excellent)

31. What should definitely be preserved to next year?

- The labs and pre-labs. Those were the things that kept me working.»
- The labs! Great labs that you learn a lot from.»
- the lab session, especially the design of two-stage-amplifier»
- course contents.»
- The labs and no exam»
- There was a lot of difference between teaching and final exam. Final exam was so tough, there was not much difference between persons who took exam and not»
- Focus on opamps so that every concept is understood well.»
- The labs»
- The slides were excellent!»
- You move in the same way»
- Prelab questions»

32. What should definitely be changed to next year?

- Some lectures were rather long!»
- Maybee considering lab4. Hand in on the layout will force the students to do it before the lab. I did not realise how important that was and did not prepare anything. This made me spend a lot of time on lab4.»
- add lectures about the application of the analog circuit»
- the way Prof.Lena taught the course.»
- Perhaps the last lab, have another layout lab with less help?»
- The lab pm needs a thorough look over»
- Final exam should be according to lectures, and level of assignments.»
- Layout lab I wish there were no guide/reference for the layout.»
- Add more practical amplifier examples»
- lab3 prelab should be handed in earlier so a feedback could be given before lab»
- Lab 4 has to be a 5-6 hour lab. »
- nothing»
- A better readable textbook»

33. Additional comments

- Thank you for a great Analog course! You care about your students, which made learning much funner. »
- Lena is an excellent teacher »
- Lecture notes were confusing sometimes, quite a few formulas were repeated on several lectures but with different variable names such as GXw GBW etc. »
- Not satisfied from results»
- The course was overall very good. Handing out the course slide before the course is a small but very important thing, since otherwise few (maybe none) will had hardcopies to follow during the course. There are no muddy, unconnected information in my mind. Thanks!»
- Thanks for the cake :)»
- This course has one really big problem in my mind, it is too short, should be 15p instead of 7.5p. There is a lot equations in this course, and in my case we do not have clue where they come from. I realize it would take much much time to make the students understand them fully.»
- Interesting course.»
- nil»


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